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Replying To anfearbeag: "So that was MOD's grand plan for beating Dublin that we have been waiting for 2 years to see. Allow them to run unchallenged to within 30-40 yards of our goal, then foul them. When they have one of the best free takers in the country on their team. Maybe the intention was to bore Dublin into submission - if we refused to run after them or tackle them, maybe they would just give up and go home. Normally after leaving Croke Park following a beating by Dublin , I am pretty angry over something: the players, the management, the ref, something. After sitting through the second half yesterday, I was just too bored with the whole thing to even muster up anger." not even a frown ? WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 27/06/2016 17:29:51 1872937 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Anyone know what happened Brian Power?" Players giving a 1 - 2 from the D and running at the goal.. ball fisted was across the goal mouth and Power went for a spectacular palm down into the net at the canal end.. landed with all his weight onto what looked like his left ankle. He was down for a considerable amount of time. Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 27/06/2016 17:42:06 1872942 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "What if the county board keep him in?" Ziggy MoD will be gone shortly...have no doubt about that! Enough people will say enough is enough. Then the real fun starts who will replace him? Remember his face has to fit . More importantly we need at least 6 players who can play against the dubs...Where are they?? Look at the club scene in the county. Standard ? Football is in CRISES for years in Meath. Only when supporters accept that fact can anything be done about it. Hospital treatment now urgent. Hopefully Gerry mc Entee assisted by O Rourke and Boylan as the 3 wise men can come to the rescue... We, the supporterts were told this steering committee were doing a job that included manager selectionMaybe we supporters in numbers need to ask What job? How are the results measured at county level? Why the apparent secrecy about this group at this critical time. Was it all a political exercise?. We the supporters are too quiet at a time of crises. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 27/06/2016 17:45:23 1872945 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "What if the county board keep him in?" Ziggy MoD will be gone shortly...have no doubt about that! Enough people will say enough is enough. Then the real fun starts who will replace him? Remember his face has to fit . More importantly we need at least 6 players who can play against the dubs...Where are they?? Look at the club scene in the county. Standard ? Football is in CRISES for years in Meath. Only when supporters accept that fact can anything be done about it. Hospital treatment now urgent. Hopefully Gerry mc Entee assisted by O Rourke and Boylan as the 3 wise men can come to the rescue... We, the supporterts were told this steering committee were doing a job that included manager selection Maybe we supporters in numbers need to ask What job? How are the results measured at county level? Why the apparent secrecy about this group at this critical time. Was it all a political exercise?. We the supporters are too quiet at a time of crises not to mention clubs. Resourses in Dublin compared to us ? Yeh but we couldnt even fix the floodlights in Navan without a fus. Do we deserve any more based on this example. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 27/06/2016 17:51:23 1872953 Link
Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "not even a frown ?" Sorry country not county! hurley1 (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 27/06/2016 17:54:13 1872954 Link
Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "not even a frown ?" Nope . A big yawn, and that was it! anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 27/06/2016 17:57:34 1872957 Link
Replying To anfearbeag: "Nope . A big yawn, and that was it!" you are right in all fairness anfearbeag i to also felt the same...it was a unusual feeling ! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 27/06/2016 18:09:36 1872962 Link
Replying To hurley1: "Sorry country not county!" welcome to the internet .. WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 27/06/2016 18:15:54 1872967 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Ziggy MoD will be gone shortly...have no doubt about that! Enough people will say enough is enough. Then the real fun starts who will replace him? Remember his face has to fit . More importantly we need at least 6 players who can play against the dubs...Where are they?? Look at the club scene in the county. Standard ? Football is in CRISES for years in Meath. Only when supporters accept that fact can anything be done about it. Hospital treatment now urgent. Hopefully Gerry mc Entee assisted by O Rourke and Boylan as the 3 wise men can come to the rescue... We, the supporterts were told this steering committee were doing a job that included manager selection Maybe we supporters in numbers need to ask What job? How are the results measured at county level? Why the apparent secrecy about this group at this critical time. Was it all a political exercise?. We the supporters are too quiet at a time of crises not to mention clubs. Resourses in Dublin compared to us ? Yeh but we couldnt even fix the floodlights in Navan without a fus. Do we deserve any more based on this example." We're an All Ireland Champinship winning Hurling county now, we don't need the likes of McEntee and O'Rourke with their backward looking mentality coming in and upsetting our mojo, if they had their way we wouldn't have had a Hurley left in the county to beat Antrim with. Root and branch reform, that's what's needed in Meath GAA, identify our strengths and weaknesses and work on them. It won't happen overnight so we need to find a long term strategy and most importantly stick with it. It took Dublin ten long years to get where they are today, it will take another five to ten to knock them 'off their perch' but people in Meath are too impatient to stick with any plan that might achieve it, they want success and they want it now but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Forget about the past, it's the future that matters. Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 27/06/2016 18:21:30 1872970 Link
Replying To Jimin10: "It's quite obvious this is the worst Meath team to ever have represented the county. Things won't change overnight. The first step is a new management team and drop a good few players." I think our problem in the beginning started with dripping so many players too quickly, likes of O'Connor, ward, Farrell, Meade, Sheridan, etc left a gulf , it back fired spectacularly on mod, all these young guys with no experienced head around, say what you want, you cant train experience, ironically mod was praised for doing this, but as they say hindsight is 20 20 vision. Cut too quickly rather than gradually, I dont care what anyone says a Sheridan or ward in that team would have grounded the young lads, and I'm not talking about them been stars, just the fact of having them around, one player yesterday had actually been on a winning team v dubs, graham Reilly, and it showed. I don't know where we go but it cant be another cutting session, we need a manager who will look at all the options. Mod is not and never has been That manager. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2016 20:01:07 1873006 Link
If Jim Gavin had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Fermanaghs Pete McGrath had this Meath panel and was manager for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Monaghan's Malachy O'Rourke had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform perform yesterday? If All-Ireland club champions Ballyboden's Andy McEntee had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If another county committee was in place for 4 years would this Meath panel perform better yesterday? If you honestly answer No, then MOD is right in his belief that he should continue. If not then he's not getting the best out of the current players. meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 27/06/2016 20:36:49 1873020 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "I think our problem in the beginning started with dripping so many players too quickly, likes of O'Connor, ward, Farrell, Meade, Sheridan, etc left a gulf , it back fired spectacularly on mod, all these young guys with no experienced head around, say what you want, you cant train experience, ironically mod was praised for doing this, but as they say hindsight is 20 20 vision. Cut too quickly rather than gradually, I dont care what anyone says a Sheridan or ward in that team would have grounded the young lads, and I'm not talking about them been stars, just the fact of having them around, one player yesterday had actually been on a winning team v dubs, graham Reilly, and it showed. I don't know where we go but it cant be another cutting session, we need a manager who will look at all the options. Mod is not and never has been That manager." I think our problem started with Sean staying on too long in the end and complacency set in... If Andy gets in he will hit the ground running. Already knows most of the lads there and brought many to minor all Ireland few years ago. Let's hope the minors can do a proper job this year. We desperately need success at minor or under 21 for lads to have no fear. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 27/06/2016 20:38:14 1873021 Link
Replying To meath1967: "If Jim Gavin had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Fermanaghs Pete McGrath had this Meath panel and was manager for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Monaghan's Malachy O'Rourke had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform perform yesterday? If All-Ireland club champions Ballyboden's Andy McEntee had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If another county committee was in place for 4 years would this Meath panel perform better yesterday? If you honestly answer No, then MOD is right in his belief that he should continue. If not then he's not getting the best out of the current players." Pete McGrath has been in charge of a Fermanagh for 3 years.They were a division behind us in the league and worse off.But he has achieved more there already.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 20:47:00 1873023 Link
This one is priceless. There's no excuses being made here but, again, we're bringing on players that are making their debut for Meath. They're bringing on seasoned players that have won All-Irelands and that's the gap we have won All-Irelands Mod ahh you got to love his excuses, sorry mick just one thing who put on the lads making their debut? (at least now we know why he did that so he could have his excuse) and who got rid of the experience players?? Enough is enough royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/06/2016 08:53:24 1873122 Link
Replying To meath1967: "If Jim Gavin had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Fermanaghs Pete McGrath had this Meath panel and was manager for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Monaghan's Malachy O'Rourke had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform perform yesterday? If All-Ireland club champions Ballyboden's Andy McEntee had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If another county committee was in place for 4 years would this Meath panel perform better yesterday? If you honestly answer No, then MOD is right in his belief that he should continue. If not then he's not getting the best out of the current players." My honest answer would have to be yes. Performance wise at least seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2153 - 28/06/2016 09:44:06 1873133 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "This one is priceless. There's no excuses being made here but, again, we're bringing on players that are making their debut for Meath. They're bringing on seasoned players that have won All-Irelands and that's the gap we have won All-Irelands Mod ahh you got to love his excuses, sorry mick just one thing who put on the lads making their debut? (at least now we know why he did that so he could have his excuse) and who got rid of the experience players?? Enough is enough" I actually agree with you 100%I actually he would say this when he emptied the bench.Why not give them experience in the league? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/06/2016 10:37:51 1873169 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: " Replying To meath1967: "If Jim Gavin had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Fermanaghs Pete McGrath had this Meath panel and was manager for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Monaghan's Malachy O'Rourke had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform perform yesterday? If All-Ireland club champions Ballyboden's Andy McEntee had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If another county committee was in place for 4 years would this Meath panel perform better yesterday? If you honestly answer No, then MOD is right in his belief that he should continue. If not then he's not getting the best out of the current players." Pete McGrath has been in charge of a Fermanagh for 3 years.They were a division behind us in the league and worse off.But he has achieved more there already.." Also wasn't Malachy O'Rourke and Monaghan in div 3 final with us 3 years ago and look at the gap with us now. And Monaghan won Ulster title last year. So if we cant get into div 1 and as the least get up to the level of Monaghan, What is realistic chances of beating Dublin ? MOD said his main aim was to get into Div 1 he has failed on four attempts. I said many times before he should have just tried to focus on getting us up in div 1. forgot about the championship for a year or so. At the moment we cant get manage to get promoted nor put in a championship performance. A limbo state exists. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 28/06/2016 10:45:38 1873174 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: " Replying To ziggy32001: "[quote=meath1967: "If Jim Gavin had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Fermanaghs Pete McGrath had this Meath panel and was manager for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If Monaghan's Malachy O'Rourke had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform perform yesterday? If All-Ireland club champions Ballyboden's Andy McEntee had this Meath panel and was there for 4 years would they perform better yesterday? If another county committee was in place for 4 years would this Meath panel perform better yesterday? If you honestly answer No, then MOD is right in his belief that he should continue. If not then he's not getting the best out of the current players." Pete McGrath has been in charge of a Fermanagh for 3 years.They were a division behind us in the league and worse off.But he has achieved more there already.." Also wasn't Malachy O'Rourke and Monaghan in div 3 final with us 3 years ago and look at the gap with us now. And Monaghan won Ulster title last year. So if we cant get into div 1 and as the least get up to the level of Monaghan, What is realistic chances of beating Dublin ? MOD said his main aim was to get into Div 1 he has failed on four attempts. I said many times before he should have just tried to focus on getting us up in div 1. forgot about the championship for a year or so. At the moment we cant get manage to get promoted nor put in a championship performance. A limbo state exists."]Looking at the teams in the league next year there should be a real chance of promotion. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/06/2016 11:08:06 1873189 Link
Just saw this article on the main page of hoganstand.com 'Pete McGrath is confident that Fermanagh are good enough to beat Mayo.' God if you were were a young county player & your manager just said this out to the press wouldnt it just inspire you meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 28/06/2016 16:46:55 1873442 Link
I'm not buying that we defended well either.We conceded 0-21 with Dublin in 2nd gear.Getting numbers bacl doesn't mean you have defended well. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 29/06/2016 11:16:29 1873693 Link