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Hate to say it, but it panned out as expected. Depressing stuff to watch, thank God I went on Sat to watch the hurlers. When Banty was in charge, he realised he had a lack of tactical awareness so he brings in Evans. With the current Meath setup, there is zero tactical awareness and even less awareness that they have a problem with this aspect. Not saying it would have made a huge difference to the end result but it just makes it worse to take that some of it is self inflicted

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 27/06/2016 10:39:10    1872630

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Will someone at cb level please have some talks with Andy McEntee and Graham Geraghty, please. Enough is enough, no selection boards , no interviews, admit you made a HUGE mistake in not giving it to GG in beginning, no shame in that , we all make mistakes, I am sure he will accept been Andy's assistant. Time to move on, the Derry game is of little consequence. We need to prepare for next year, and repair

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2016 10:43:07    1872632

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Some good posts summing it up well (Miller/JD/Oldsanm) being some examples. Unfortunately we do have a game plan and it could be titled: how to lose a game by 10 points and not concede a goal. It was obvious with that set-up you had no chance of winning and we are worst than we were 4 years ago. It is one thing to concede the kick-outs when you are playing Div 4 teams but conceding when you are playing one of the best team in the country is another matter-football lunacy. I do not blame the players although it would help if we had the best players available. On a more 'interesting' note even though we have a 'South Meath team' beaten by Dublin, no 'Mid-Meath team', unable to field team from 'North Meath'. However, on a positive RD's 'West Meath team' is doing well and into the final!!! I think we have a decent chance of beating Derry.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/06/2016 10:47:35    1872634

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Will someone at cb level please have some talks with Andy McEntee and Graham Geraghty, please. Enough is enough, no selection boards , no interviews, admit you made a HUGE mistake in not giving it to GG in beginning, no shame in that , we all make mistakes, I am sure he will accept been Andy's assistant. Time to move on, the Derry game is of little consequence. We need to prepare for next year, and repair"
Sorry, I must have missed Geraghty's managerial success. On what basis would you be giving it to him?

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 27/06/2016 10:48:37    1872635

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "Sorry, I must have missed Geraghty's managerial success. On what basis would you be giving it to him?"
It simply has to be McEntee,but it has to happen once this season is over.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 10:58:13    1872639

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Yesterday was brutal. Meath Dublin games used to be exciting hard hits and a great atmosphere, its lost all that . This Meath team are now playing ultra defensive rubbish Football . I think we do have great players to compete with Dublin if we are setup correctly but game plan is stupid and fitness is the main problem We collapse in the 2nd half in most games for the last 4 years. I wont be going to Derry as I can't stand this anti football and set up any more. It was very hard to watch a Meath team bullied without a response yesterday and 2014.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 27/06/2016 11:09:23    1872648

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "We have seen the same thing for years under MOD,nothing is going to change now.It is infuriating for those who think he should have been gone last year and the way he got in."
Absolutely ziggy, I certainly wasn't happy with how he got the job, it was a joke to be honest. MOD is in his 4th year and it's just not working, whether it's his fault or the players fault I don't know but I don't see the value in plodding along with a manager who simply can't improve the team.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/06/2016 11:09:26    1872649

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I was saying all last week to Dublin friends that I knew we wouldn't win, but all Meath fans really wanted was to be able to come away from Croke Park with a bit of pride in the performance & a sense that they stuck it to Dublin for as long as they could. I don't think we could say we got that. That's the most disappointing thing.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 27/06/2016 11:32:44    1872660

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Replying To Htaem:  "Absolutely ziggy, I certainly wasn't happy with how he got the job, it was a joke to be honest. MOD is in his 4th year and it's just not working, whether it's his fault or the players fault I don't know but I don't see the value in plodding along with a manager who simply can't improve the team."
It appears the 'show is over for MOD & Co'. A once proud county reduced to a laughing stock. Cannot give Dublin a game. Loosing to Westmeath in the championship last year should have been the end of the road, loosing the record of never having lost to them in the championship was just a 'terrace chant' and not really an issue, it could have have happened several times in '00s but it was the softness of MIND & BODY in conceding a big lead. That showed that the whole set-up did not have the ambition to succeed and were not physically fit. The never-say-die spirit will not kick-in when the legs are gone. Hence the reason the hurlers won (almost twice in the last three weeks), they had the miles done on the training field and so kept plugging away. Exactly as our footballers used to do and it was not just under Sean Boylan, the most famous of all comebacks was 1970 when Offalys 9 pts lead was overhauled and it was not just a ordinary Offaly team as they won the next two All Irelands. What I am trying to show here is that good a SB was it was not just him that engendered the never-say-die spirit into our county footballers so please do not come on here saying that the Boylan era was a once off. To get close to the top we have to get the team fit and fresh enough to last 80 minutes plus, adopt a defensive set up while at the same time having the fitness (that word again) to get players forward quickly into the attack and then revert to defense again. It need not always be the same players committing quickly to the attack so that quick little breathers can be availed of by the players.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 27/06/2016 11:50:35    1872671

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I was saying all last week to Dublin friends that I knew we wouldn't win, but all Meath fans really wanted was to be able to come away from Croke Park with a bit of pride in the performance & a sense that they stuck it to Dublin for as long as they could. I don't think we could say we got that. That's the most disappointing thing."
devastating...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 12:07:07    1872683

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "I was saying all last week to Dublin friends that I knew we wouldn't win, but all Meath fans really wanted was to be able to come away from Croke Park with a bit of pride in the performance & a sense that they stuck it to Dublin for as long as they could. I don't think we could say we got that. That's the most disappointing thing."
I am not a fan of MOD. I was initially. He falls short on essential skills for the job yes. That is not the whole story. We do not have enough players able to compete at this level at present We have players who never finish a match because they are not good enough. In the same breadth we expect some of those players to play at midfield .What a joke! Both Mc Donagh and Tormey are not capable of playing inter county at this standard.Why play them then? because we have nobody else. Well maybe Flanagan if he was fit. So it is a 2 sided problem Weak manager AND insufficient players in the county capable of playing at this level when the chips are down .To make it worse i dont see any capable manager in the county who would take the job [leaving out all canvasing and agendas] To give MOD credit i think he has given all players a chance to show,and persevered too long with some. I wonder where are the 3 wise men now? Your county certainly needs ye! I salute the hurlers and management especially for showing true Meath grit when the chips were down...I wonder can you bottle that stuff nowadays?.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 27/06/2016 12:24:50    1872694

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Hard to understand how Dublin could be allowed win their kick outs uncontested, once they have possession they rarely loose it, some of the subs brought on have had little or no game time during league, same for O Brien, why was he not a regular in league if going to be used come championship? Plenty of men behind the ball but actually doing nothing.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2153 - 27/06/2016 12:45:20    1872702

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We never once had Tormey at full forward yesterday in fact some of the time he was used as a sweeper! Really??

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 12:47:34    1872706

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Imaging playing a game where the rule is if you scored or hit a wide the other team gets possession on your 45 yard line. How long would that rule be in place, simply because its so dumb.
To think we allowed Dublin basically restart after our scores or wides on our 45 at least. 20 times.

GoalsWinGames (Meath) - Posts: 303 - 27/06/2016 13:09:09    1872732

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Replying To seadog54:  "Hard to understand how Dublin could be allowed win their kick outs uncontested, once they have possession they rarely loose it, some of the subs brought on have had little or no game time during league, same for O Brien, why was he not a regular in league if going to be used come championship? Plenty of men behind the ball but actually doing nothing."
Fully agree with you Seadog in everything you say.I actually said going into the game,that O'Brien and Rooney should have played in the league at the start of games.I also said MOD will probably give Jones his debut when again he could have played him in the league..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 13:20:29    1872743

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Fully agree with you Seadog in everything you say.I actually said going into the game,that O'Brien and Rooney should have played in the league at the start of games.I also said MOD will probably give Jones his debut when again he could have played him in the league.."
Also what's the story with Jones coming on first I never seen or heard of him before. And he just threw him in out of nowhere. Was played during the league ?

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 27/06/2016 13:45:13    1872757

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Also what's the story with Jones coming on first I never seen or heard of him before. And he just threw him in out of nowhere. Was played during the league ?"
Jones was on the U21 team...

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 27/06/2016 14:03:14    1872768

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Also what's the story with Jones coming on first I never seen or heard of him before. And he just threw him in out of nowhere. Was played during the league ?"
He was on the panel,plays for Dunboyne,but no he didn't play 1 minute in the league.Lavin also played 20mins in the league.Players like that should be blooded in the league not thrown into championship.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 14:12:06    1872775

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ziggy - they were experimental throw in the towel substitutions, i would argue there is no better time to throw them in and see what they're made of

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 404 - 27/06/2016 14:17:30    1872781

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That Meath performance was so bad it even made Dublin look poor as we almost dragged them down to our level. Listening to MOD go on about the same old excuses all the time is just so hard to take, COS missed free was just the last straw for me, my 8 year old would have scored it with his eyes closed. Shambles, can't see many going to Derry.

AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 27/06/2016 14:22:41    1872784

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