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Meath v Dublin

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Lads I told you this would happen.Meath are going nowhere under MOD.It was a pathetic display,game plan was terrible and the players lack belief.I would be happy to see him gone before Derry.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/06/2016 23:29:07    1872500

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On the game itself, it's hard to analyse the performance of our players because we had so little possession.

In terms of the setup, we obviously tried to stop them scoring goals which made sense as goals have killed us in previous years. If we pushed up on the kickouts, they would've had too much space to get in behind the defence. The problem was that we hadn't enough on the counter attack. It's a tricky balance to crack.

The ease at which Dublin turned over possession was a disappointment. I'd be interested to see how many scores they got from this. They

Wallace kicked the ball away aimlessly twice or three times. O'Sullivan seemed to lose his head after that easy miss but I thought he was very good up to that point. Reminds me of Wes Hoolahan. Very good on the ball and always tries to do the right thing but lacks support. Paddy was solid in goal which was encouraging.

No one played poorly. Dublin are simply are classy outfit and are a step above most teams around. While we seem to lack belief, the lads put in a decent effort and stuck with the plan to stop goals. Maybe we were just too robotic. I still think we can put a run together in the qualifiers. Let's get behind the team again.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 26/06/2016 23:32:12    1872502

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Replying To seadog54:  "his best, what is it he is doing exactly?"
That's not the best Meath Team that can take to the field. You have to ask as to why players like Menton, Queeney, Carroll, etc. are or will not play for MOD?? The difference in ambition, hearth and desire to win could never be more different between two Meath teams at the same venue in 24 hours. Is Dalton the best full forward in Meath? The hurlers deserve such much credit particularly as the have to paddle against the tide of the Meath Co Board. I still think we can beat Derry but we need to go man to man and stop conceding possession!!

GREGADETH (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 26/06/2016 23:33:34    1872504

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Lads, that's the best anyone could have done. There is no point in analysing or hand wringing. This Dublin team are miles ahead of all other counties not just in Leinster. They won pulling up against Kerry last year and they'll do it again this year.

Meath playing the way they did today would probably give all the Division 1 teams (bar Dublin) a serious challenge and probably beat a few of them.

Dublin are just on a level that no other county can achieve for numerous reasons. The football championship is effectively a dead competition and it will be a for a good few years till either Dublin decline or other counties figure a way of overcoming the serious imbalance that exists right now, be they financial problems, access to top level coaching, rural isolation, access to facilities, low population etc.

Meath might be coming right at underage now (fingers crossed) but there's still a long way to go till we get a chance to see if that will bear fruit at senior level."
If you look at it this way Dublin didn't get a shot on goal..they didn't even get a sniff of a goal..plus they scored 21 and 9 points from frees,we gave away alot of frees,but what happens now the referee is always informed about incidents he missed at the half time break about things he did not pick up on.. second half he gave Dublin a lot of soft frees,i think he felt obliged because of Mickey's missed time tackle to the butt of young Kilkenny's jaw and Biggys wrong footing :)...so the referee felt he wasn't doing his job!

I don't really see the hang over from this Dublin game to be honest .. looking forward to the Derry game!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 26/06/2016 23:37:23    1872507

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Anyone know what happened Brian Power?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/06/2016 23:56:28    1872511

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Very few players stood up today, how did mod look at tormey and McDonagh and not make a change quicker? Wallace running around in circles with no support, biggy put alot of them lies to bed about him not playing well v dubs, but midway through second half you could see he was wrecked, lets hope the knock isn't too bad cause you could count the number of class player in this Meath set up on one hand and he is definitely one of them.
Again we are not fit enough, it is beyond belief after 4 years how unfit we actually are, I was afraid of a containment exercise, and that's exactly what we got. I look forward to next year and a new leader, however it may take a couple of years to undo the damage that has been done over last 4 years"
You need to go back and read some of your posts from about two years ago about Meath a team in transition and about having faith in the manager etc etc.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 27/06/2016 00:06:04    1872516

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Anyone know what happened Brian Power?"
Na. Hope he is okay though.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 27/06/2016 00:55:20    1872528

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Anyone know what happened Brian Power?"
Saw on twitter that he injured his ankle. Don't know how serious though

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 27/06/2016 01:08:48    1872534

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Replying To THE_SNAPPER:  "You need to go back and read some of your posts from about two years ago about Meath a team in transition and about having faith in the manager etc etc."
Whats your point ?

RD supported a manager.

He doesn't anymore...

Wheres the issue ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 27/06/2016 01:28:39    1872537

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Replying To waynoI:  "Whats your point ?

RD supported a manager.

He doesn't anymore...

Wheres the issue ?"
yeah I supported the manager at the start you have and you must give him time.But he has had 4 years and there is no structure to this Meath team and they seriously lack belief.This comes from the manager.He should not have been reinstated last season.He was banging on about stability,yet his two selectors stood down..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 08:31:00    1872552

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woeful,a years hard training for that performance....MOD ,cheerS and all the best,clean out 6/7 players that will show teams,ie DUBLIN, no respect and actually hit a shoulder....terrible timid performance.....a new era needed ASAP..

theseal (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 27/06/2016 08:41:36    1872557

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Letting Dublin have the ball from the kick outs was a joke. MOD never even tried to take them on in this area like Donegal did and won in 2014. We where good in the first half but Dublin where on in 2nd gear. The most important period for me, was the 1st 10 minutes of the second half time where we missed some really easy chances to put pressure on the dubs. After that we died.Dalton Mc tried hard but it wasn't happening for him he should have been replaced a lot earlier. Changes where made way to late. The ref ruined the game for me given soft frees, killed any bit of physicality and didn't play advantage enough. Strangely enough we looked solid enough in the back area if we could find some decent consistent forwards we could have a half decent team.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 27/06/2016 09:00:03    1872565

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Depressing stuff.

2nd half collapse again after an okay first half, was okay as we were still in touch only 3 points down.

Still annoyed by it all.

RedMeath12 (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 27/06/2016 09:27:30    1872578

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Overall I'd have to say very disappointing, we put in a respectable 1st half performance but once again, we no showed in the second half. There's something amiss with this Meath setup, they seem almost incapable of a 70 minute performance.

Thankfully we now have a 13 day turnaround instead of 6, at least that will give the lads proper time to prepare and get over the disappointment.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/06/2016 09:43:08    1872588

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So annoyed today when you look back - agree if we tried in some way to prevent the short kick out it would have prevent the build up for Dublin. 1 - 9 cant fault. Up front to many chances missed - to think all bar one of the forwards were taken off and at that Mick Newman should have gone. Simple things done simple but no we panic and we run into trouble and nothing inside to aim at. Even if they were in 2nd gear at least bring the match to them.

Sportfan (Meath) - Posts: 133 - 27/06/2016 09:48:38    1872593

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Lads I told you this would happen.Meath are going nowhere under MOD.It was a pathetic display,game plan was terrible and the players lack belief.I would be happy to see him gone before Derry."
100% agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2016 09:50:29    1872595

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Saw Power getting injured in the warm up. It was waiting to happen. If you saw lads doing that drill in anU12 match you would tell them to stop.

Forglory (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 27/06/2016 10:01:56    1872602

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Replying To Sportfan:  "So annoyed today when you look back - agree if we tried in some way to prevent the short kick out it would have prevent the build up for Dublin. 1 - 9 cant fault. Up front to many chances missed - to think all bar one of the forwards were taken off and at that Mick Newman should have gone. Simple things done simple but no we panic and we run into trouble and nothing inside to aim at. Even if they were in 2nd gear at least bring the match to them."
Agree we never once tried to stop them getting ball from Cluxtons kickout which is ridiculous. Maybe if we played our forwards in forward positions we might have done better. On the few occassions ball was kicked in to full forward line, we had 1 forward in, Dublin full back line must have been delighted to see this, was right up their alley. The one line which possibly might be weaker than any other is Dublins full back and what did we do we played a man that scored 3 points last day as a defensive mid field. We have not got a clue how to set up a team. We have not learned anything and rest of championship will be like slow torture.

castleroyal (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 27/06/2016 10:12:06    1872608

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Replying To Htaem:  "Overall I'd have to say very disappointing, we put in a respectable 1st half performance but once again, we no showed in the second half. There's something amiss with this Meath setup, they seem almost incapable of a 70 minute performance.

Thankfully we now have a 13 day turnaround instead of 6, at least that will give the lads proper time to prepare and get over the disappointment."
We have seen the same thing for years under MOD,nothing is going to change now.It is infuriating for those who think he should have been gone last year and the way he got in.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 10:21:33    1872618

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Replying To castleroyal:  "Agree we never once tried to stop them getting ball from Cluxtons kickout which is ridiculous. Maybe if we played our forwards in forward positions we might have done better. On the few occassions ball was kicked in to full forward line, we had 1 forward in, Dublin full back line must have been delighted to see this, was right up their alley. The one line which possibly might be weaker than any other is Dublins full back and what did we do we played a man that scored 3 points last day as a defensive mid field. We have not got a clue how to set up a team. We have not learned anything and rest of championship will be like slow torture."
The clubs need to kick up a fuss at the end of the season.This has to end....

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/06/2016 10:27:29    1872622

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