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The other issue is,if we do put in a serious effort and lose we are in serious trouble for the game 6 days later..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 08:43:17    1870010

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "The other issue is,if we do put in a serious effort and lose we are in serious trouble for the game 6 days later.."
Ziggy We have to give it everything next Sunday. Yes the 6 day thing is unfair, but we cant control that, other than by winning the match Anyway our lads have put in massive hours in training, so fitness cannot be an issue at this stage. We badly need a lift,and what better way to do it than against the dubs. As the song says "One day at a time"!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 21/06/2016 10:10:35    1870039

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Replying To nobull456:  "Ziggy We have to give it everything next Sunday. Yes the 6 day thing is unfair, but we cant control that, other than by winning the match Anyway our lads have put in massive hours in training, so fitness cannot be an issue at this stage. We badly need a lift,and what better way to do it than against the dubs. As the song says "One day at a time"!"
Oh I am not saying that,we will have to give it all against Dublin we have no choice.But its likely to leave us vunerable 6 days later.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 10:32:41    1870050

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Well its simple Meath needs to get stuck into the dubs and don't let them walk all over us without one hell of a battle, If we stand back and admire there wonderful skills they will beat us out the gate by half time. As a Meath man that is living up in Monaghan I do admire there fighting spirit of Monaghan teams like what Meath used to be hard to beat and loads of pride. Our lads need to believe that they can beat the dubs ,then I will be a happy Meath man driving back up to Monaghan Sunday evening win or loose. Hon the royals

Sean1965 (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 21/06/2016 11:02:21    1870073

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Lads I said something similar recently I believe on a hurling forum, but in my opinion I feel that 6 days is plenty of time to recuperate and get ready for the next game. These lads are training to a professional level these days(yes I know technically its amateur on paper). Ice baths, swimming, sports massage, gentle running is all that is needed to get you primed up again. Yes there is the likelihood of having a few knocks but that is to be expected at this level. Obviously fitness training would take a back seat as that should be done at this stage.

Time to stop wrapping these lads in cotton wool. And in relation to burnout, that doesn't apply to these guys in my opinion as they have only played a few games all year of any sort of standard and yes they do a vast amount of training but if training leads you to being burned out then you don't have what it takes!

I would still have faith in these lads that should we not get a result against Dublin but we still put it on the line, we will give Derry a right rattle the following week.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 632 - 21/06/2016 11:14:41    1870079

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "The other issue is,if we do put in a serious effort and lose we are in serious trouble for the game 6 days later.."
Therein lies a problem, do management/team go for broke next Sunday or do they also have an eye for a probable game six days later. Physically it is a big ask to put in two big displays back to back but mentally it may be even more difficult. I feel they must take it a game at a time as a good performance Sunday may be the kick start this team needs.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2154 - 21/06/2016 11:32:16    1870090

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Replying To seadog54:  "Therein lies a problem, do management/team go for broke next Sunday or do they also have an eye for a probable game six days later. Physically it is a big ask to put in two big displays back to back but mentally it may be even more difficult. I feel they must take it a game at a time as a good performance Sunday may be the kick start this team needs."
I think if MOD isn't planning to beat the Dubs on Sunday and is focusing on Derry then he need to do the following:

1. Send out a B team against Dublin, resting our entire 1st team (it makes absolutely no sense to throw in the towel before the game and still play the 1st team).

2. Let the Meath fans know that our team is planning for Derry and that they aren't going to be trying against Dublin (so we don't waste money going to Croker on Sunday).

3. Resign immediately after we're knocked out of the championship.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/06/2016 11:48:11    1870100

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Replying To Htaem:  "I think if MOD isn't planning to beat the Dubs on Sunday and is focusing on Derry then he need to do the following:

1. Send out a B team against Dublin, resting our entire 1st team (it makes absolutely no sense to throw in the towel before the game and still play the 1st team).

2. Let the Meath fans know that our team is planning for Derry and that they aren't going to be trying against Dublin (so we don't waste money going to Croker on Sunday).

3. Resign immediately after we're knocked out of the championship."
This thread is becoming a bit ridiculous. Of course Mick and the management and players are focused on the Dubs. It isn't his fault that the Dubs are on a different level to all other counties. I think that the team did well in the Louth game considering the retirements & injuries etc. I dont hold up much hope for the Dubs game and i also think that MOD's reign has been poor but some of the posts here have been going from the sublime to the ridiculous.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 21/06/2016 13:02:07    1870159

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Fully agree with the ridiculous nature of some posts on here. Dublin are they way they are primarily due to an overfunding system created by the GAA and downright inequality. It is up to us and Kildare to improve significantly to reach their level. A defeatist attitude will get us nowhere.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 21/06/2016 13:43:42    1870194

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If i was the manger of Meath..and i felt if the players were not up for the game or confidence in the camp was low i would be thinking the exact same way as Htaem ..saving the players and getting them ready for the next day out !

Now if Mod has a game plan and the players to execute correctly with confidence ...well lets play ball :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 21/06/2016 14:20:52    1870229

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "This thread is becoming a bit ridiculous. Of course Mick and the management and players are focused on the Dubs. It isn't his fault that the Dubs are on a different level to all other counties. I think that the team did well in the Louth game considering the retirements & injuries etc. I dont hold up much hope for the Dubs game and i also think that MOD's reign has been poor but some of the posts here have been going from the sublime to the ridiculous."
I know the team is focusing on Dublin oldsam_newsam, I never said they weren't focused on Dublin and I'm fully expecting them to go out and give it a right lash.

I wouldn't take my post about Meath focusing on Derry too seriously, I was just saying what he (or any manager for that matter) should do in such a farcical situation. Also I'm certainly blaming our players or management for Dublin being on a different level to everyone else, not sure where that came from.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/06/2016 14:23:05    1870231

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "If i was the manger of Meath..and i felt if the players were not up for the game or confidence in the camp was low i would be thinking the exact same way as Htaem ..saving the players and getting them ready for the next day out !

Now if Mod has a game plan and the players to execute correctly with confidence ...well lets play ball :)"
Haha no no WhyTheLongFace, I don't think MOD should save the players for a potential game v Derry. I've said all along and I'm sticking to it that I want to see every Meath go out on Sunday and leave everything on the pitch, give it 100% and absolutely no throwing in the towel.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/06/2016 14:28:35    1870235

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If we beat them would it make us favourites to win the All-Ireland?!

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 21/06/2016 14:36:34    1870240

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Replying To Htaem:  "Haha no no WhyTheLongFace, I don't think MOD should save the players for a potential game v Derry. I've said all along and I'm sticking to it that I want to see every Meath go out on Sunday and leave everything on the pitch, give it 100% and absolutely no throwing in the towel."
Htaem agree 100%. This is the real measurement of progress or not. Fitness cannot be an issue,neither can motivation [ we are playing a very good team,and we can give them a right good rattle traditionally a great rival of ours] Holding back for Derry is a load of bull,and i hope it is not used as a half baked excuse not to give it everything. The result that i will accept is when we can say " our lads gave it everything...just like the Meath teams of old...every man played with pride in the jersey" Lets see where that brings us. Absolutely no surrender .Respect the dubs as a team ,of course they have earned that! They WILL be beaten in the future at some point.With the right frame of mind we can give them one hellova shock on Sunday.At least they will know they had a real challenge from a team who played with pride and passion.Then let the result take care of itself so to speak!! 3 years of hard work has to show dividends on Sunday!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 21/06/2016 14:55:59    1870259

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They should try their very best against Dublin for 70 minutes+ to see where they are really at (vs. 2013-2015) and forget all about another potential match in Derry the following weekend. Some fringe players can come in for the Derry match if necessary/required. Giving their all against Dublin is more important (if that is what they were working on for ages), than prolonging the summer in the qualifiers and still not make an AI QF.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 21/06/2016 15:01:56    1870264

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Replying To Htaem:  "I know the team is focusing on Dublin oldsam_newsam, I never said they weren't focused on Dublin and I'm fully expecting them to go out and give it a right lash.

I wouldn't take my post about Meath focusing on Derry too seriously, I was just saying what he (or any manager for that matter) should do in such a farcical situation. Also I'm certainly blaming our players or management for Dublin being on a different level to everyone else, not sure where that came from."
Fair enough Htaem, I wasn't implying that you were saying that regarding the reasons for the Dubs dominance. I was just trying to defend MOD a bit.

The funding system is certainly a big factor but not everything. As far as I am aware the big injections into Dubs finances came under Berties rule but I could be wrong on that one.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 21/06/2016 15:04:33    1870268

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Replying To Jimin10:  "If we beat them would it make us favourites to win the All-Ireland?!"
ha!

no....

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 16:01:39    1870320

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Replying To Jimin10:  "If we beat them would it make us favourites to win the All-Ireland?!"
YES!

In fact they should just give us Sam right there and then if we beat them haha

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 21/06/2016 16:37:25    1870345

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Replying To Jimin10:  "Fully agree with the ridiculous nature of some posts on here. Dublin are they way they are primarily due to an overfunding system created by the GAA and downright inequality. It is up to us and Kildare to improve significantly to reach their level. A defeatist attitude will get us nowhere."
Ah good lad jimin getting the aul overfunding for Dublin issue as a sort of prematch excuse for your own county's shortcomings, I hope for all genuine meath supporters sakes that your county team don't have the same mindset that you have otherwise why bother turning up at all! A bit of irony in your post don't you think?

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 21/06/2016 17:14:20    1870366

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "Ah good lad jimin getting the aul overfunding for Dublin issue as a sort of prematch excuse for your own county's shortcomings, I hope for all genuine meath supporters sakes that your county team don't have the same mindset that you have otherwise why bother turning up at all! A bit of irony in your post don't you think?"
Jaysus if something like that upsets you what would you be like if Meath win Sunday ?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 21/06/2016 17:47:07    1870389

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