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Meath v Dublin

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Replying To waynoI:  "Why ?"
Because i like the rain .

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 13/06/2016 18:37:44    1866317

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I said this over on the other thread already but ill say it here again.This is a Dublin team missing two all stars from last year (one of them the footballer of the year).I don't care who you are but any team that loses two all stars are gonna be weaker than the previous year.I expect meath to have a right go on sunday week and put it up to the dubs.This dublin team will not retain the sam maguire with those two lads missing,i don't care what they have in reserve.Kerry,mayo,tyrone,monaghan & donegal will all have a big say in the sam maguire and the winner will come from one of them.I think if mayo can sort out their internal problems they could easily win it,they had dublin beaten twice last year and let them off the hook.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1050 - 14/06/2016 11:39:35    1866532

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Replying To thelutch:  "I said this over on the other thread already but ill say it here again.This is a Dublin team missing two all stars from last year (one of them the footballer of the year).I don't care who you are but any team that loses two all stars are gonna be weaker than the previous year.I expect meath to have a right go on sunday week and put it up to the dubs.This dublin team will not retain the sam maguire with those two lads missing,i don't care what they have in reserve.Kerry,mayo,tyrone,monaghan & donegal will all have a big say in the sam maguire and the winner will come from one of them.I think if mayo can sort out their internal problems they could easily win it,they had dublin beaten twice last year and let them off the hook."
the lutch

I take your point and hope you are right,but Meath still are missing injured players and lost some good players from last year.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/06/2016 11:43:45    1866536

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Actually that might work."
Meath have to play a 3 man full forward line against Dublin.... No point bringing a lad out sure philly McMahon would have a field day.....keep there full back line in there full back line IMO and play it in very directly.......unfortunately its.damage limitation I feel tho

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 895 - 14/06/2016 12:10:57    1866554

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Lutch-- Dublin have a few potential all stars coming through. Galvin hasn't played his trump cards yet. We need to snuff them out.


By the way we have a couple of potential all stars too if mod can get lads to play as a team. Big if

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 14/06/2016 12:20:12    1866558

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thelutch

To be fair lutch Dublin have an absolutely outstanding team at the minute, expertly coached by Jim Gavin. Now while McCaffrey and ROC are both excellent players, Dublin still won all 9 of their division 1 matches this year (comfortably beating Donegal and Kerry in the KO games) and won the league without them.

They have an absolute embarrassment of riches all over the park and their fowards rip teams apart at will. I don't think Kerry, Monaghan, Mayo etc are going to beat them this year and we're behind all of those teams.

We have to go out and do our best to remain competitive for as long as possible, but if Dublin get an early goal (which they'll try to do) or go on a rampage scoring points in the early stages then forget about it, it could be 20pts+.

I want to see our lads playing like lunatics for 70mins, give it absolutely everything, no throwing in the towel and see where that takes us, we can't ask for anymore than that.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 14/06/2016 12:21:25    1866560

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Meath have to play a 3 man full forward line against Dublin.... No point bringing a lad out sure philly McMahon would have a field day.....keep there full back line in there full back line IMO and play it in very directly.......unfortunately its.damage limitation I feel tho"
Whether you play a 3 man or 2 man full forward line won't matter since Dublins corner backs always join in on their attacks anyway.

It's part of the system they play when they start going through the phases of their attack. With our defence looking vulnerable I'd expect this to happen fairly often because they are going to try and overwhelm us. The only thing we can do is defend deep and try to make turnovers and hit them fast on the break. Easier said then done obviously.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 14/06/2016 12:42:19    1866576

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Replying To RoyalClass:  "Whether you play a 3 man or 2 man full forward line won't matter since Dublins corner backs always join in on their attacks anyway.

It's part of the system they play when they start going through the phases of their attack. With our defence looking vulnerable I'd expect this to happen fairly often because they are going to try and overwhelm us. The only thing we can do is defend deep and try to make turnovers and hit them fast on the break. Easier said then done obviously."
You need EVERY man to do his job.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/06/2016 13:25:22    1866605

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What ever plan MOD puts in place we must still be in game after 35 mins, Dublin will look to blitz us early on, if they succeed in that we are facing a hiding. Kick outs will have a baring, how we deal with Cluxton and how POR places his, has to do better than against Louth. No matter how we shape up they will run at us right from their full back line outwards. Again the few occasions Louth did this we were very nervy/unsure.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2153 - 14/06/2016 14:13:47    1866650

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You will all think I'm mad but In relation to Kick outs id let paddy try the first 3/4 and if we are getting roasted I would be telling him to put it in the dugout/dead and let the lads get organised and defend from there. The Dubs are very very good at turning over kickouts and having the ball back over the bar in a matter of seconds.. Meath really need to kill their rhythm as much as possible..

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 632 - 14/06/2016 14:29:56    1866668

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Replying To RoyalClass:  "Whether you play a 3 man or 2 man full forward line won't matter since Dublins corner backs always join in on their attacks anyway.

It's part of the system they play when they start going through the phases of their attack. With our defence looking vulnerable I'd expect this to happen fairly often because they are going to try and overwhelm us. The only thing we can do is defend deep and try to make turnovers and hit them fast on the break. Easier said then done obviously."
Id agree, id leave biggy around half forward line, and when the turn over comes belt the ball to him, he will take out maybe one or two backs , and ne either fouled or he will score or even better set up Newman for a goal, I swear ill go mental if he starts tracking back unless osullivan takes up that role, one of them must remain in halfway area to get the turn over, let their marker do whatever he wants , plenty of backs midfielders and other half forward in defense, leave a option to get ball out quickly and hit dubs on the break.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/06/2016 14:50:13    1866685

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for the life of me i cannot figure out how we have not adopted the same or similar style to Dublin. It is not as if we are blessed with tall players but yet O Rourke will be booming it 80 yards down the pitch. This wont work against Dublin

pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 14/06/2016 15:00:02    1866688

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Replying To pretender:  "for the life of me i cannot figure out how we have not adopted the same or similar style to Dublin. It is not as if we are blessed with tall players but yet O Rourke will be booming it 80 yards down the pitch. This wont work against Dublin"
Well we have Rooney,Dublin haven't got a midfielder as powerful as him.Plus Douglas was always giving a short option.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/06/2016 15:33:48    1866707

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Having read through a lot of posts here to see what people think, I feel most are being realistic.

Meath without question have the advantage of coming into this game as huge underdogs, therefore, pressure is on Dublin.

However, Don't forget, any team who comes up against Dublin will be massive underdogs, especially in Leinster. We're used to being in this situation. It'll be nothing new to us and Dublin's players and management will only focus on Meath, Nothing else. The idea that we will buckle or feel any kind of pressure is just hopeful on Meath behalf but realistically, It wont happen in 12 days.

The most important thing that has happened this side, is the 2014 defeat to Donegal. Because now we have struck a balance between attack and defence. You will not see our defence exposed like Donegal exposed it that day. We will not neglect our defensive duty as a team. We will be ready for every single aspect of Meath.

If you want to play 15 v 15, We just have far better players all over the pitch, and we will pick you off time and time again with our superior fitness, ability, and speed and run up a massive amount of scores as wave after wave of Dublin attack will leave your lads looking like a rabbit in the headlights

If you set up defensively and try to do what Donegal done in 2014, As I said, we learned from that, We wont try force it. We will keep possession and be patient. Even if it takes 90 seconds - 2 mins of holding the ball to wear you out, We will suck the life out of you, Wait til you tire, and punish you then. Either way, what Meath do will be nothing that we haven't faced before. Only difference being weve destroyed better teams than Meath.

I fully expect Meath to turn up and show heart and passion. I don't expect them to take defeat easily but I do expect them to lose, By how much will depend on how much Dublin care about the scoreboard. After Laois last time out, We've a point to prove. That wasn't good enough. We let them back into it. Every single Dublin player and member of management will have been fumin after that second half display so I expect us, back in the comforts of Croke park, To come out flyin. And try finish the game before Meath even know whats happening, And then, not let up.

Either way, Don't care how we win, So long as we do. But I honestly expect a Dublin team dying to prove a point, And who better to prove a point against, than Meath.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 14/06/2016 15:37:45    1866710

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I've yet to see biggy play well against Dublin, James McCarthy seems to get a good kick out of shutting him down and has done so pretty well in all of our recent meetings so I don't expect much different this time around. I think Biggy needs to become more aggressive and stand up to McCarthy more.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 14/06/2016 15:38:55    1866711

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "I've yet to see biggy play well against Dublin, James McCarthy seems to get a good kick out of shutting him down and has done so pretty well in all of our recent meetings so I don't expect much different this time around. I think Biggy needs to become more aggressive and stand up to McCarthy more."
Were you not at the semi final in 10?? You would have saw him tear them apart that day.
As for 14? Not one player played well that day including keoghan.
We have got to believe that that day everything went wrong for us, and hear is a chance for all those and many others to step up and prove they better than that, including biggy.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/06/2016 15:57:00    1866727

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "You will all think I'm mad but In relation to Kick outs id let paddy try the first 3/4 and if we are getting roasted I would be telling him to put it in the dugout/dead and let the lads get organised and defend from there. The Dubs are very very good at turning over kickouts and having the ball back over the bar in a matter of seconds.. Meath really need to kill their rhythm as much as possible.."
Pure madness!

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 14/06/2016 16:30:57    1866738

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Who is our main target man?

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 14/06/2016 16:39:22    1866744

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "I've yet to see biggy play well against Dublin, James McCarthy seems to get a good kick out of shutting him down and has done so pretty well in all of our recent meetings so I don't expect much different this time around. I think Biggy needs to become more aggressive and stand up to McCarthy more."
He doesn't sleep well before the big occasion.

MOD needs to tell him he's not playing before the game. Then just before throw in hand him a jersey and tell him to go reek havoc

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 14/06/2016 16:41:23    1866748

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Were you not at the semi final in 10?? You would have saw him tear them apart that day.
As for 14? Not one player played well that day including keoghan.
We have got to believe that that day everything went wrong for us, and hear is a chance for all those and many others to step up and prove they better than that, including biggy."
He scored 1 point against the worst Dublin defensive performance in my memory (worse than Donegal in 14)

From what I remember of that day, Stephen Bray and Cian Ward done us the most damage. Bray scored 2-01 and Ward got 1-03 or 1-04 or something.

And anyway, why are you still talking about biggys performance 6 years ago for FFS as if its some kind of achievement. Its 6 years ago, there has been 3 more Dublin v Meath games since then, Arent players meant improve on their figues as they get older and into their prime ? Biggy has actually got worse.

Kevin McManamon has LITERALLY scored as many points in 2 minutes against Meath (0-03 in 2 minutes and 2 seconds in 2014 leinster final), As biggy has in his last 3 games combined against Dublin. (0-03 in 2012, scoreless in 13 and 14). Paul Mannion has played 1 game against Meath as a 19 year old and bagged 1-04.

Come on man, Will you give over pulling the wool over your own countymen's eyes.

Biggy has not done it against Dublin in recent times. He has been kept quiet.

He will need to up his game 100% against us next time out and hope other follow suit to give you a chance of staying in the game let alone winning it.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 14/06/2016 16:54:25    1866756

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