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Meath vs Antrim - Christy Ring Final

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The word on the street is that the lads won't be turning up in Newry this Saturday or any Saturday and if the GAA want the cup back they can come and collect it or (or what's left of it to be more precise). The club championship starts this weekend and that's more important than sorting out this fiasco that was not of their making. The lads have spent the last few days "unwinding" after six months hard work, they haven't been given enough time to prepare for a rematch this Saturday and they feel it's disrespectful of the GAA to set the date without discussion or consideration for their own personal availability or prior commitments. If we didn't win the CR neither will Antrim, if they want to take it they can have it but it's looking increasingly likely that 2016 will be they year nobody won the Christy Ring.
The suits in Croke Park need to take a long hard look at themselves after this.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/06/2016 16:23:59    1862947

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@darragh westmeath....yeah that seems fair also,i was just trying to create a better championship so that we could have more evenly contested games.nothing worse than one team beating the other by 20-30 points.Needs to be done in the football also.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 07/06/2016 16:24:43    1862950

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Replying To Wedgie:  "The word on the street is that the lads won't be turning up in Newry this Saturday or any Saturday and if the GAA want the cup back they can come and collect it or (or what's left of it to be more precise). The club championship starts this weekend and that's more important than sorting out this fiasco that was not of their making. The lads have spent the last few days "unwinding" after six months hard work, they haven't been given enough time to prepare for a rematch this Saturday and they feel it's disrespectful of the GAA to set the date without discussion or consideration for their own personal availability or prior commitments. If we didn't win the CR neither will Antrim, if they want to take it they can have it but it's looking increasingly likely that 2016 will be they year nobody won the Christy Ring.
The suits in Croke Park need to take a long hard look at themselves after this."
Dead right. Disgrace to fix it on Saturday, disgrace to fix it at all. Sure most of them were bouncing off the walls of Coppers last night.

Hopefully the reports of the cup going missing are wide of the mark.

RedMeath12 (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 07/06/2016 16:28:19    1862953

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Replying To thelutch:  "@darragh westmeath....yeah that seems fair also,i was just trying to create a better championship so that we could have more evenly contested games.nothing worse than one team beating the other by 20-30 points.Needs to be done in the football also."
Yeah something needs to be done anyway to improve the structure anyway and get more evenly matched games. Nobody benefited from the Leinster quarter finals over the past few weekends, everybody knew Dublin & Galway would win handy and whoever won between Laois and Offaly will lose heavily to Galway in the semi then, benefits nobody. Galway end up in a Leinster final having had no competitive match and having learned nothing from their matches.

The Round Robin stage is good cause all teams are evenly matched, as is the Christy Ring Cup. If only the GAA could have the sense to implement a system like this for the main championship with 4 evenly matched tiers, then we would get great matches every weekend at all levels, instead of having to wait every few weeks for a Munster championship game and then August for the knockouts.

Daragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 6 - 07/06/2016 16:43:08    1862964

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Replying To hurley1:  "Total disrespect for our wonderful meath hurlers by the gaa and cccc!!!!!!!! Match fixed for newry next Saturday. It took them till Tuesday morning to come up with that ------ 3 days for the meath hurlers to recover and they knowing that the team had been out celebrating and at least 4 players going abroad , they have just handed over the the Christy ring cup to Anrtim. WHERE IS OUR COUNTY BOARD??????"
agree hurley1!!

Meath County Board totally anonymous in all this as the hurlers get slated. GAA president and Antrim chairman had statements made before the meeting today crying out for a replay which definitely had an impact on proceedings. Meath had no official stance on the replay,

Meath hurlers will be hung out to dry if they don't fulfill the fixture. County board needs to back the hurlers!!

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 07/06/2016 17:02:34    1862980

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Replying To RedMeath12:  "Dead right. Disgrace to fix it on Saturday, disgrace to fix it at all. Sure most of them were bouncing off the walls of Coppers last night.

Hopefully the reports of the cup going missing are wide of the mark."
As wide as Sean Heavey's point (wink wink).
From what I gather the handles may still be in Coppers.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/06/2016 17:03:29    1862982

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In fairness to the Meath county board, there's not much they could have said. At best we'd have gotten a boring "Regretable situation to be in, we await the results of the CCCC meeting before making any comment" bland statement. It's not like they can dig the heels in and demand to keep the cup and title. Laois county board spent 7 months solid giving out about the venue of the Dublin match and it came to nothing, they were just embarrassing themselves by the end of it.

Utterly sickening to have it wrenched from our grasp though, the elation after winning was something else, and the celebrations over in Trim that night was a night to remember. Even if Meath tried, they'd be fighting an uphill battle to get ready for Saturday after the lads spending the last 72 hours celebrating.

If Meath aren't fielding I hope they go ahead with the club championship fixtures this weekend, it'd make a mess of the championship otherwise.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 07/06/2016 17:33:42    1863010

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "Its a no brainer ref made mistake he will correct it in his report and state game was a draw. Totally different to 2010 when sluddden stood by his decision.
Gaa will order replay they have no option but too going by refs report. It will go down to human error. Antrim will stand by they have no need to object.
Meath will refuse to play and you cant blame them.


That's when the stand off will occur and the GAA will look for a way out and come up with a compromise

I reckon GAA would love if ref just puts it down 2-18 to 1-20 and have a bit of head in the sand stuff"
Not far out there numbered

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 07/06/2016 17:35:54    1863012

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Replying To Brownepat:  "Not far out there numbered"
According to LMFM Meath County Board are "not happy" and are meeting to "discuss" tomorrow night. Why are they not meeting tonight, they knew that that the CCC were meeting today and must have had an indication that thjs would be the outcome. Meath Co. Board are dealing with this like they have dealt with the football manager position last year - in a very inactive, laissez faire way.

Also Meath Co. Board should have taken some leadership in all of this on Sunday when all of this was kicking off and instructed that the homecoming with the reception in Trim be postponed.

That said,, I am amazed that the date has been set for next saturday! The GAA never ceases o amaze me. 11 weeks between competitive matches for the footballers which is crazy long and not 4 days for the hurlers to prepare for their final replay after them celebrating etc over the weekend. Very unfair on the players, management, supporters etc.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 07/06/2016 18:25:08    1863053

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Meath and Antrim Co boards should get together and force the GAA to come to a solution that suits both counties not GAA HQ, it was their foul up to begin with, this is a half cocked response is more about letting the GAA weasel out of it by shifting the problem back onto the two teams.
The Meath players should refuse to take part in the match this Saturday, Antrim will not want to get the trophy this way so they too should refuse to play.
Both county boards should sit down in Croke Park with the GAA and not leave the room until they come up with a solution that's acceptable to BOTH teams, BOTH counties and not just GAA HQ.
This is your mess, you sort it.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/06/2016 18:26:40    1863055

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Great news re the replay ,

Plenty of time to get the show back on the road, I am not a small ball man but i will be very impressed if we field.

Wouldn't it be sweeter if they get a win.

Re the response to the 2010 louth game , We had our chance and didnt do it , Players and management decided that they werent going to offer the replay , badly advised me think.

the hurlers winning or loosing next Saturday will get alot more kudos for fulfilling the fixture rather than hiding behind red tape and should've could've & didnt.

Rather than having a christy ring medal that was won by default.

dnewlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 07/06/2016 18:36:16    1863063

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What about the Limerick minors that lost out on an All Ireland through a refereeing blunder?
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2013/0819/469099-hawk-eye-admits-to-human-error-at-croke-park/

Or Louth missing out on a Leinster through a refereeing blunder?
Should these not also be replayed..? Maybe we could have a triple header and play them all the same day?

It shouldn't be put back on the two teams to sort out what is essentially the GAA's cockup, it's time for some leadership from GAA HQ to come up with an amicable solution and a rematch at short notice is not the solution to this problem.
Time to get the cheque book out.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/06/2016 18:56:02    1863077

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i am not a hurling man...the win Saturday didn't make me one either,but i am a Meath man and now there is a gun pointed at our heads,thing about being a Meath person we like good footballers and good hurlers..but what we love more than anything is a people with balls..we have not been treated the very best here by the Gaa in the last few days..its looking like the Newry screw job this Saturday,If these young Meath hurlers say they will play this Saturday well that is balls..even just saying that they will play they would win hearts and mind in this county never before because of the situation they were left,i cant go to two games this weekend sadly but i definitely will be go to this game if its on Saturday !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 07/06/2016 19:26:18    1863098

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "i am not a hurling man...the win Saturday didn't make me one either,but i am a Meath man and now there is a gun pointed at our heads,thing about being a Meath person we like good footballers and good hurlers..but what we love more than anything is a people with balls..we have not been treated the very best here by the Gaa in the last few days..its looking like the Newry screw job this Saturday,If these young Meath hurlers say they will play this Saturday well that is balls..even just saying that they will play they would win hearts and mind in this county never before because of the situation they were left,i cant go to two games this weekend sadly but i definitely will be go to this game if its on Saturday !"
You'd better bring your boots then, you might be the only one there.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/06/2016 19:55:37    1863125

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I actually think that balls would be to say, stick your replay (in the north on Saturday) after a almighty cock up by ref and croke park, up your jacksy. And if you want your cup you can have it, just come and collect it, Las seen floating up the boyne somewhere near slane.
Hon the Royal.

Now ok I jest a little, but honestly this whole situation makes the naked gun movies look like a thriller. Neither Antrim or Meath faults totally GAA HQ.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/06/2016 20:23:07    1863142

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How much are they charging in Newry on Saturday evening. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a bumper attendance at it, particularly with all the media coverage it will be generating.

Lets face it not too many could name the two Christy Ring finalists this time last week. As a good will to both sides the GAA should offer a substantial reduction in the entry fee on Saturday night. This is the norm for replays anyway

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3099 - 07/06/2016 20:28:13    1863149

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Replying To Wedgie:  "You'd better bring your boots then, you might be the only one there."
Well does Meath hurling lads inspired me to play :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 07/06/2016 20:29:50    1863153

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I'd like to know where our county board is.. or are the just shoving TJ out front to soak it up..

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 07/06/2016 20:30:57    1863156

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ok replay was fairest way to go, but the disrespect shown to both teams by not consulting before date/venue was announced shows the commitment the GAA have to the weaker hurling counties. All their guff about promoting games across the country is just bull. Will we hear from the GPA on this matter?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2143 - 07/06/2016 20:31:31    1863157

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Replying To seadog54:  "ok replay was fairest way to go, but the disrespect shown to both teams by not consulting before date/venue was announced shows the commitment the GAA have to the weaker hurling counties. All their guff about promoting games across the country is just bull. Will we hear from the GPA on this matter?"
GPA doesn't give a f*** about Meath and Antrim hurlers!

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 07/06/2016 20:41:01    1863175

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