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Replying To Royalblufill: "Folks - It was a fantatsic game - Meath could have taken it in real time but then as somebody already pointed out the keeper made a few good saves.
I think Barry Callaghan did a great job with these lads - he had them well prepared both physically and mentally. It was one of those nights where it could have gone either way. I feel very sorry for all these lads who have put in a huge amount of work over the past 9 months, training 3 times a week (while most of them were studying for their leaving cert) that they don't even get a run out in Croke Park after losing one game (and in injury time!) I know that people will be critical but nobody can be more disappointed than the people involved
The management and panel can hold their heads up - and hoepfully they can kick on to play a big part of Meath football in teh coming years." Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?" Theres always one who just has to have a moan.. Well done
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 07/07/2016 11:45:34
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?" Harsh,it happens..Close game team misses a penalty and the other team get a lift.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/07/2016 11:45:56
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?" These are minor players, kids who gave everything for the team and county. To question young lads mental ability or prep is wrong and uncalled for. These lads are only just starting into adult football and have years of development ahead of them. Yes they didn't respond to the missed pen that's underage football it can happen. If you coach underage you'd know this happens all the time at every level. Well done to the lads I know how much they put into training and can only hope to see some of them make it to the senior set up.
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Replying To username.if: "These are minor players, kids who gave everything for the team and county. To question young lads mental ability or prep is wrong and uncalled for. These lads are only just starting into adult football and have years of development ahead of them. Yes they didn't respond to the missed pen that's underage football it can happen. If you coach underage you'd know this happens all the time at every level. Well done to the lads I know how much they put into training and can only hope to see some of them make it to the senior set up." Agreed
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/07/2016 12:08:31
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We bate Dublin and for me that means a lot
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 07/07/2016 12:12:06
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I'd echo the sentiments regarding the "back door" in Leinster.
Meath would have had to beat Laois, Dublin and Kildare (I believe three of the top 4 teams in Leinster) to be guaranteed an All Ireland quarter final. Laois had to beat Carlow, Louth and Offaly and they're guaranteed an All Ireland quarter final. There was absolutely no incentive for Meath to win their first game against Laois. We would have been much better off losing it. Now we've won two games and drawn one and are out of the championship.
As for the game, we could have won it in normal time. The referee was infuriatingly inconsistent throughout. He gave a free early on to Kildare for holding off the ball (which was probably correct) but from then on Kildare cleverly made it so that it looked like a Meath defender was holding by trapping the Meath defenders' arm with theirs. The referee constantly fell for it and Kildare got three points from those types of frees. Even after the penalty hit the crossbar, the "throw ball" that he gave against Meath was never one. Kildare then went down and scored two quick points putting the game out of reach. A Kildare player practically flung the ball forward late on in normal time which the referee allowed and resulted in a vital Kildare point.
Away from the referee, I believe we had the better players overall. Kildare players just seemed to be much bigger which meant we had little return from midfield. Kildare mostly relied on frees (which annoyingly tied in with an overly fussy referee) while only 3 of our points came from placed balls. Really feel for Scully regarding the penalty. An inch or two higher or lower and we come away with a score and either lead or draw level.
Gutted to come away with nothing and it's a travesty that we're out despite being equally the best team in Leinster (in my opinion) but the team have done well I feel.
Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 07/07/2016 12:27:36
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?"
Chaisleain_Abu: (Go home your drunk!!!!!!!)
That Meath team last night gave there all in my opinion. I have not seen a Meath team with that much pride in a long time. They worked hard for each other, tracked back when they lost possession, I counted at least 5 blocks, they had a good system, well organised and drilled. No. 10 was outstanding, No. 13 was isolated in the second half.
I think we needed a bit more height in the full forward for someone to win/break ball down, and our subs were a bit light.
To say they weren't mentally right, I think your waaaaayyyyy off the mark!!!!
Credit to Barry and the lads. MOD could learn a thing or two from that game!!!!
letDballdoDwork (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 07/07/2016 12:36:04
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Replying To ziggy32001: "Thats it..
I do wonder how many are minor next year.
I would move Colm Coyle up from U17's to manage minor and move Barry Callaghan and his management team up to under 21's." Ziggy,
Leave Barry where he is for now.
IMO he would have watched a lot of football around the county to pick the players so in return he would also see players this year who will be ready for minors next year!
It was also great to see a mixture of players from all around the county unlike previous years!!!
Barry & co did a great job so leave them there IMO
letDballdoDwork (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 07/07/2016 12:44:11
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Replying To letDballdoDwork: "Ziggy,
Leave Barry where he is for now.
IMO he would have watched a lot of football around the county to pick the players so in return he would also see players this year who will be ready for minors next year!
It was also great to see a mixture of players from all around the county unlike previous years!!!
Barry & co did a great job so leave them there IMO" Oh no I agree with you,but how many will still be minor next season? I don't think Sean Barry has done great with the U21's.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/07/2016 13:06:47
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The ref gave Meath whatever was going and was consistently frustrating with an attitude of I am the boss here and I do what I like
I felt we should have held on but overall Kildare were slightly better and there subs had bigger impact
Kildare got to grips with our danger men while we never did with 9, 10 and 15 doing a lot of damage from 1st to last.
That is the way the draw was done no one knew when we beat laois what would be next and you have to go out to win. The apple fell right. For Laois and that's. The luck of the draw
Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 07/07/2016 13:09:39
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Replying To letDballdoDwork: "Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Well , Mentally prepared , did you note the effect the missed penalty had in extra time . Mentally prepared means that they would have been able to overcome negative stimulus like a missed opportunity .... they didn't , for all to see. Well prepared , what preparation was there for this . And who prepared them mentally ?"
Chaisleain_Abu: (Go home your drunk!!!!!!!)
That Meath team last night gave there all in my opinion. I have not seen a Meath team with that much pride in a long time. They worked hard for each other, tracked back when they lost possession, I counted at least 5 blocks, they had a good system, well organised and drilled. No. 10 was outstanding, No. 13 was isolated in the second half.
I think we needed a bit more height in the full forward for someone to win/break ball down, and our subs were a bit light.
To say they weren't mentally right, I think your waaaaayyyyy off the mark!!!!
Credit to Barry and the lads. MOD could learn a thing or two from that game!!!!" LDBDDW , will you cop yourself on .
The Meath minors played well against a bad Dublin minor team ( this is known fact) ,they got it hard to get over a questionable Laois team . Then came up against a Kildare Minor panel that have been together for a number of years , with 3-4 of them with Leinster minor medals in their back pocket from last year ( Winning is a great confidence booster , knowing how is even better) . Meath played a nip and tuck game, right to full time , with loads of drive , passion , and never giving up---------------------- until the missed penalty in XT . That's the biggest negative stimulus these guys encountered in the game ......After that they wilted , the cohesiveness that was there before disappeared .And the ref appeared to give soft opportunities to Kildare .
Mentally they weren't right. Score the goal from the peno , and flags fly , unfortunately , the didn't score and the flags didn't fly .
Preparing the guys correctly for a situation like that would instill that the Flags must fly higher and better to regain the advantage . If that mental switch was there ( instilled into them ) , the minors may have survived . Unfortunately it wasn't , and they didn't . That's mental Prep 101 for you . Blow bubble all you want , winning employs many techniques , dismissing the impact of negative Mental stimulus in games at your peril. Talking about preparation is one thing , doing the mental preparation is another.
An Mhi Abu
Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 07/07/2016 13:34:43
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As good a game of football as I've seen this year and a great performance by the Meath lads. OK, missed the penalty but we missed 3 or 4 point opportunities in the 1st half of ET which let Kildare off the hook when we were on top. Yes, people will talk about the penalty but there were other opportunities.
The Meath goalkeeper also took off 3 good saves and from 45 minutes on Kildare held a strangle hold in midfield. Not better footballers, simply taller than our lads and they closed down our quick kick outs which kept us going for the first 45mins.
Hard luck lads, you gave it you're all and you should be proud of how well you wore the jersey last night.
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "LDBDDW , will you cop yourself on .
The Meath minors played well against a bad Dublin minor team ( this is known fact) ,they got it hard to get over a questionable Laois team . Then came up against a Kildare Minor panel that have been together for a number of years , with 3-4 of them with Leinster minor medals in their back pocket from last year ( Winning is a great confidence booster , knowing how is even better) . Meath played a nip and tuck game, right to full time , with loads of drive , passion , and never giving up---------------------- until the missed penalty in XT . That's the biggest negative stimulus these guys encountered in the game ......After that they wilted , the cohesiveness that was there before disappeared .And the ref appeared to give soft opportunities to Kildare .
Mentally they weren't right. Score the goal from the peno , and flags fly , unfortunately , the didn't score and the flags didn't fly .
Preparing the guys correctly for a situation like that would instill that the Flags must fly higher and better to regain the advantage . If that mental switch was there ( instilled into them ) , the minors may have survived . Unfortunately it wasn't , and they didn't . That's mental Prep 101 for you . Blow bubble all you want , winning employs many techniques , dismissing the impact of negative Mental stimulus in games at your peril. Talking about preparation is one thing , doing the mental preparation is another.
An Mhi Abu" Who do you think you are? Take you mental garbage to another forum like the seniors where it's grown men your talking about not kids. Get a grip I for one have no respect for people who don't know when they crossed the line and just blindly continue. I seriously hope your not coaching kids
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Replying To username.if: "Who do you think you are? Take you mental garbage to another forum like the seniors where it's grown men your talking about not kids. Get a grip I for one have no respect for people who don't know when they crossed the line and just blindly continue. I seriously hope your not coaching kids" I wonder what he must think of the seniors if this is his attitude towards these kids!
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "LDBDDW , will you cop yourself on .
The Meath minors played well against a bad Dublin minor team ( this is known fact) ,they got it hard to get over a questionable Laois team . Then came up against a Kildare Minor panel that have been together for a number of years , with 3-4 of them with Leinster minor medals in their back pocket from last year ( Winning is a great confidence booster , knowing how is even better) . Meath played a nip and tuck game, right to full time , with loads of drive , passion , and never giving up---------------------- until the missed penalty in XT . That's the biggest negative stimulus these guys encountered in the game ......After that they wilted , the cohesiveness that was there before disappeared .And the ref appeared to give soft opportunities to Kildare .
Mentally they weren't right. Score the goal from the peno , and flags fly , unfortunately , the didn't score and the flags didn't fly .
Preparing the guys correctly for a situation like that would instill that the Flags must fly higher and better to regain the advantage . If that mental switch was there ( instilled into them ) , the minors may have survived . Unfortunately it wasn't , and they didn't . That's mental Prep 101 for you . Blow bubble all you want , winning employs many techniques , dismissing the impact of negative Mental stimulus in games at your peril. Talking about preparation is one thing , doing the mental preparation is another.
An Mhi Abu" Take your mental stimulus and your high fly flag and the rest of your general bullxxxx and shove them where the sun don't shine
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My God what sort of a man are you castlelain I have never heard such rubbish and this about a fine bunch of lads the 1st to beat the Dubs from our county in a long time. The hopes of the county and the best wishes were with them and STILL ARE for the future. Things did not go just according to plan last night but by God they gave it there all and went under to a slightly better Kildare side. Thanks be to God the County Board had the sense to take steps earlier in the year with types spouting stuff like that. The GAA needs to look at themselves when extra time is needed at U18 level but not at adult and the plan to replay on next sunday had it finished level also was ridiculous Far better to have a straight knock out championship like Ulster than put that plan onto young players.
Barry had done his time and fair play to him I expect he will move up as Colm Coyle will be the Manager in 2017 that it how it has worked last couple of years.
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Very unlucky last night. Very good match, and unlucky with a few missed chances. Hopefully see some of these progressing onto the senior teams in a few years.
Lads, I would just ignore Caisleain. Simply looking for a response.
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If you had to pick one player from this group to make it later on,who would you pick?
I would go James Conlon.
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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "LDBDDW , will you cop yourself on .
The Meath minors played well against a bad Dublin minor team ( this is known fact) ,they got it hard to get over a questionable Laois team . Then came up against a Kildare Minor panel that have been together for a number of years , with 3-4 of them with Leinster minor medals in their back pocket from last year ( Winning is a great confidence booster , knowing how is even better) . Meath played a nip and tuck game, right to full time , with loads of drive , passion , and never giving up---------------------- until the missed penalty in XT . That's the biggest negative stimulus these guys encountered in the game ......After that they wilted , the cohesiveness that was there before disappeared .And the ref appeared to give soft opportunities to Kildare .
Mentally they weren't right. Score the goal from the peno , and flags fly , unfortunately , the didn't score and the flags didn't fly .
Preparing the guys correctly for a situation like that would instill that the Flags must fly higher and better to regain the advantage . If that mental switch was there ( instilled into them ) , the minors may have survived . Unfortunately it wasn't , and they didn't . That's mental Prep 101 for you . Blow bubble all you want , winning employs many techniques , dismissing the impact of negative Mental stimulus in games at your peril. Talking about preparation is one thing , doing the mental preparation is another.
An Mhi Abu" I know for an absolute fact that they had a phycologist on the coaching team. This phycologist has worked with a senior inter county football team before and is well qualified. He had a massive hand in giving them the belief they could beat Dublin. And you say a weak Dublin team. A weak Dublin team that this team never beat at underage and got hammered by them at Gerry Reilly under 16. If they were so badly prepared mentally how come with 20 mins left being 2 points down playing into a stiff breeze they scored the next 4. How come when they played Laois they closed out the game when they weren't at their best. Put yourself in their shoes. You are 18 you are playing in the heat of summer absolutely spent yourself for 60 minutes. Then you play another 10 and you have the most crushing blow in hitting the bar. You expect them to just come out flying like nothing happened. What a load of running. This team has many faults. Mental strength and will to win is not one of them.
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1462 - 08/07/2016 00:13:06
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