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Club Championship 2016

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Replying To db9:  "Ashbourne beat Duleek by 21 points today. Far too many clubs threading water at senior grade.Needs to be cut down to about 14 teams in my view.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:6502 - 14/08/2016 19:55:01

Here Here. Far too many clubs in divisions where the get one result and stay up. This is not what competition is about. Highlights why the mass relegation proposals being defeated was such a bad bad bad move. Clubs need to forget their own interests and think of the greater good. when you see teams getting bet by 20+ points at the weekend you really have to ask what is the point of them being in that division?"
The new format should be made simple;
Groups of 4; 16 teams. Top 2 Q/F.
3RD safe. 4th relegation battle.
As it is the last two in a group can still qualify. The proposals that were put on the table were ridiculous.
Three teams through? Why? If you cant make the top two in your group your out.
Also cut to 14 teams? Why? ANY team that gets a hiding relegate them. That is laughable.
This is three games in championship for all. More than adequate.
League dates set in stone early JANUARY to be completed by mid July.
A couple of weeks blackout dates for cancelled games to be played.
This means no backlog bar exceptional circumstances.

numerosix (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 15/08/2016 13:40:38    1901260

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "How did Ronan Jones do?"
Ronan Jones was excellent again scoring 3 points from middle of the park. Really upped his performance after David Gallagher went off injured.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 15/08/2016 13:40:41    1901261

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Replying To Greenwood:  "Ronan Jones was excellent again scoring 3 points from middle of the park. Really upped his performance after David Gallagher went off injured."
He seems quite mobile from what I have seen from him?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/08/2016 14:35:25    1901305

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Replying To numerosix:  "The new format should be made simple;
Groups of 4; 16 teams. Top 2 Q/F.
3RD safe. 4th relegation battle.
As it is the last two in a group can still qualify. The proposals that were put on the table were ridiculous.
Three teams through? Why? If you cant make the top two in your group your out.
Also cut to 14 teams? Why? ANY team that gets a hiding relegate them. That is laughable.
This is three games in championship for all. More than adequate.
League dates set in stone early JANUARY to be completed by mid July.
A couple of weeks blackout dates for cancelled games to be played.
This means no backlog bar exceptional circumstances."
Actually that was a typo.

I agree 100%.

16 teams
4 groups of 4
2 qualify for quarters.
3rd team cannot be relegated.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/08/2016 14:36:46    1901307

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "He seems quite mobile from what I have seen from him?"
Personally think this guy is the real deal.. He just needs a year or two of proper strength & conditioning to get himself to the level required to compete with the best inter county players. He has all the ball skills.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 15/08/2016 15:33:14    1901329

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Replying To Greenwood:  "Personally think this guy is the real deal.. He just needs a year or two of proper strength & conditioning to get himself to the level required to compete with the best inter county players. He has all the ball skills."
Agree! Jones is a very special player, his ability to drive at pace through the middle and pop a point is a joy to watch. Needs to be given time though, still so young after all. Easy to forgot he is only gone 19

meath_ (Meath) - Posts: 25 - 15/08/2016 16:01:38    1901344

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Replying To Greenwood:  "Personally think this guy is the real deal.. He just needs a year or two of proper strength & conditioning to get himself to the level required to compete with the best inter county players. He has all the ball skills."
No doubt he is one for the future.But he could be used now at least as a sub when legs get tired in midfield.We don't have many mobile midfielders.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/08/2016 16:01:50    1901345

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David Larkin seems to be playing very well too

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 15/08/2016 16:25:18    1901359

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Actually that was a typo.

I agree 100%.

16 teams
4 groups of 4
2 qualify for quarters.
3rd team cannot be relegated."
I honestly think the 3rd team should be entered into the Relegation mix up and it should/ could be ran off in a league scenario where the 8 teams play off against each other and the bottom two are automatically dropped. This would ensure that the worst two teams get dropped. By not including the 3rd placed teams could leave a weak club safe if they are placed in an overall weak group.. However to counter that from happening a system of seeding could be adopted from the previous years championship to ensure that all the groups are mostly balanced. There are far two many games over the last few weeks in both codes that could have been blown up at half time as the gulf in talent between the two clubs is drastic.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 15/08/2016 16:26:38    1901360

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I honestly think the 3rd team should be entered into the Relegation mix up and it should/ could be ran off in a league scenario where the 8 teams play off against each other and the bottom two are automatically dropped. This would ensure that the worst two teams get dropped. By not including the 3rd placed teams could leave a weak club safe if they are placed in an overall weak group.. However to counter that from happening a system of seeding could be adopted from the previous years championship to ensure that all the groups are mostly balanced. There are far two many games over the last few weeks in both codes that could have been blown up at half time as the gulf in talent between the two clubs is drastic."
Idiotic idea. Another seven championship matches each for the worst senior teams.
When do you think this would finish? December/Jan?

numerosix (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 15/08/2016 17:21:41    1901396

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I honestly think the 3rd team should be entered into the Relegation mix up and it should/ could be ran off in a league scenario where the 8 teams play off against each other and the bottom two are automatically dropped. This would ensure that the worst two teams get dropped. By not including the 3rd placed teams could leave a weak club safe if they are placed in an overall weak group.. However to counter that from happening a system of seeding could be adopted from the previous years championship to ensure that all the groups are mostly balanced. There are far two many games over the last few weeks in both codes that could have been blown up at half time as the gulf in talent between the two clubs is drastic."
Honestly?

No....

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/08/2016 17:39:08    1901407

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I honestly think the 3rd team should be entered into the Relegation mix up and it should/ could be ran off in a league scenario where the 8 teams play off against each other and the bottom two are automatically dropped. This would ensure that the worst two teams get dropped. By not including the 3rd placed teams could leave a weak club safe if they are placed in an overall weak group.. However to counter that from happening a system of seeding could be adopted from the previous years championship to ensure that all the groups are mostly balanced. There are far two many games over the last few weeks in both codes that could have been blown up at half time as the gulf in talent between the two clubs is drastic."
They seed the teams based on championship performance.That way you don't get a weak group technically..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/08/2016 17:40:10    1901410

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Replying To numerosix:  "Idiotic idea. Another seven championship matches each for the worst senior teams.
When do you think this would finish? December/Jan?"
sure what harm would it be for the worst teams to get extra game time.. The championship knock out rounds can be played off regardless. your probably a member of one of these clubs that likes to play 3- 4 games a year and just be happy that you can say you are senior but in reality are just making up the numbers

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 15/08/2016 19:00:17    1901457

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The 7 round relegation playoff is ridiculous. As soon as a team wins 2 or 3 games they know they'll be safe so could easily just give walkovers in the remaining games.

Say Moynalvey/Ballivor/Trim/Dunsany finished in the relegation sections of their football group, while their corresponding hurling team won the hurling championship. How would they fit a 7 game series of football games in amongst all the Meath and Leinster hurling club fixtures, on top of U21, minor etc? Bearing in mind also very few clubs can host floodlit games in winter.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 15/08/2016 19:30:38    1901467

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Big shock in Dunboyne losing to St.Pats!

Anyone at this one?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/08/2016 20:35:20    1903663

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O'Mahonys beaten by 5 points to Wolfe Tones. They are in a serious spot of bother now.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/08/2016 20:43:42    1903668

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Big shock in Dunboyne losing to St.Pats!

Anyone at this one?"
Yeah I was at it, hideous conditions to play football and did not suit Dunboyne's style at all. Ref was fairly questionable too I must say. Dunboyne really poor today though

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 20/08/2016 21:54:11    1903680

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Big shock in Dunboyne losing to St.Pats!

Anyone at this one?"
Yeah I was at it, hideous conditions to play football and did not suit Dunboyne's style at all. Ref was fairly questionable too I must say. Dunboyne really poor today though

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 20/08/2016 21:58:28    1903681

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Yeah I was at it, hideous conditions to play football and did not suit Dunboyne's style at all. Ref was fairly questionable too I must say. Dunboyne really poor today though"
Do you think they were a bit complacement or had an attitude of a team more or less through.?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/08/2016 08:33:04    1903724

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Some win for pats but sadly it count for nought as don/ash and Summerhill win today and that will settle group with dunboyne ash and shill getting the 3 spots

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 21/08/2016 09:45:43    1903742

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