Beginning, I know you having a laugh.
But That said mod should never have been reappointed, that is cb fault not the fans, not the clubs, not even mods (yes he should have known he wasn't cutting the mustard, but still) and most important its not the majority of players from last year, it is solely Meath cb.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/02/2016 12:04:14    1823414

With the exception of O'Sullivan and tobin the entire forward line should have been changed at half time. Poor decision to start reilly and tormey?


Absolutely no excuses but ref had a howler.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 08/02/2016 12:08:19    1823418

Beginning, I know you having a laugh.
But That said mod should never have been reappointed, that is cb fault not the fans, not the clubs, not even mods (yes he should have known he wasn't cutting the mustard, but still) and most important its not the majority of players from last year, it is solely Meath cb.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:8537 - 08/02/2016 12:04:14

I think MOD isn't a great manager Although he wasn't to blame for yesterday ,
I think a lot of people are forgetting that nobody wanted the job. At least he have the guts to take it.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 08/02/2016 12:18:18    1823426

want at the game lads but how did the half backs cope or was it a case of they were swamped??

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 08/02/2016 12:47:29    1823444

Bob, there was carr, and geraghty with Evans and Devine that wanted the job, the committee recommended mod, and a reason for that recommendation was never given, it would appear to have been that Kelly was coming aboard, but he is now gine along with Giles, Las year there was people who would have took over too, regardless of what anyone says Meath are underperforming, now that os players fault on field but it is managers fault for sending them out, why are we so tired after 5 games, ? It would show that he still hasn't got the fitness right while like everyone else I was delighted to see Reilly named and start yesterday as all Meath fans were, you could see after 20 mins he wasn't fit to play, who made the decision to play him? Same could be said for tormey, when he picked up yellow I honestly thought he should be subbed but he wasn't, who made the call? Its little things like this that make you question mods abilities, now if it was year one I wouldn't say a word, but it's year 4 and he still makes the same basic errors of judgment. And while initial hopes of new selectors having more input were high, I do wonder was it a case of shuffling the chairs on the titanic.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/02/2016 13:20:12    1823464

IDU ... AFAICR, there wasn't really a clear-cut goal chance in the entire game (for either side). It was Meath's forward play that cost them. Soft enough frees (fouls!) accounted for most if not all of the four points difference on the scoreboard.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 08/02/2016 13:20:31    1823465

There was a clear cut chance of a goal but it was Fermanagh who had it early on and kicked it over. COS on the ball is too selfish and on about 5 or 6 occasions ran into players and lost the ball, how anybody here could say that is good football mystifies me. Our Manager keeps talking up certain players who are very average at best and remind me of junior players in the way the play. We have nobody in defence who can set up an attack except Keoghan as they are all to slow moving themselves and the ball, passing back ways and side ways going nowhere- some posters thing that is good football. Fermanagh with very limited playing pool were at least able to hand pass accurately unlike our team and the had a standout midfielder . The ref was very poor and the sending off was very harsh, the best team won though. It would help if MOD would play a few of the newcomers on the panel who are considerably better than what was on offer yesterday.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 08/02/2016 13:57:47    1823489

Without complaining too much about the ref,I have said many times that a Northern ref should not be in charge when another Northern team plays someone from outside the provence...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/02/2016 14:25:11    1823511

Interesting that MOD said that the forward line did not have the energy yesterday

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/02/2016 14:28:47    1823512

Irish_downunder - Defensively I thought we were pretty solid yesterday, Fermanagh scored 4 points from play with one of those being from 55 metres. Overall I felt like we put in a solid shift minding the house and would regard it as being one of our better defensive performances of late. Keogan as per usual was very good while Burke and Harnan were good throughout, Harnan immeasurably improved from the Armagh game.

At midfield though we were roasted alive from the throw in and the fact we only have one midfielder on the panel is a major issue. A lot of people are criticising Tormey but the fact is he's a forward who's being pressed into service in a position where he's not best suited to, same as Graham Reilly when he moved there.

Up front I thought Sean Tobin showed well for the ball and kicked some nice frees while Newman wasn't as good as against Cavan but did have a decent goal attempt saved late in the first half. Ball was played through and he tried to hit it first time off the ground but the keeper pulled off a good stop. Donal Lenihan from play was my pick if the full forward line yesterday, always looking for possession with intelligent runs and as well as kicking our only point from play he worked his socks off defending from the front.

Cillian O'Sullivan was our link man who was a very good outlet in the first half and seems to possess a very useful ability to roll his opponent and get goal side. I note someone complaining that he takes too much out of the ball but the great issue for me yesterday was how slow the support play from the middle 8 players were to get up to him with runs off the shoulder. Fermanagh defenders were getting back way quicker than we were getting into support positions in the attack. This issue got worse as the game wore on as we felt the effects of being a man down for so long.

And on that - Royaldunne - it's easy to say here almost 24 hours later that you thought he should have been taken off after getting booked but with the lack of midfield options on the panel there was little alternative on the bench to bring on.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 08/02/2016 14:28:59    1823514

Whythelongface - If I understand you correctly, you are saying that a good manager improves a team.

That's an interesting theory. I wonder have the county board considered it?

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts:791 - 08/02/2016 08:33:55

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Theoretically speaking ..they don't want a good manger!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 08/02/2016 14:29:25    1823516

WhyTheLongFace
Mc grath might be doing a good job with Fermanagh, But they were awful yesterday. I think they only got 4 points from play with 14 men they will struggle to stay up. We would have won with a bit to spare if we have 15 and losing Tormey one of our physically strong players was massive it decided the game basically.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts:196 - 08/02/2016 08:55:10

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I will now take your point on board Bob..we got beaten by a awful team!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 08/02/2016 14:37:59    1823522

Royaldunne we very lucky we didn't go with Evans Geraghty they haven't cover themselves in glory either. I am not sure about Devine maybe he would have been worth a pop. I am not defending MOD I think he a proven poor manger and made presided over some of our worst defeats ever. But yesterday was not totally Mod fault. Maybe in hine sight he should have subbed Tormey sooner. But to me was not a black card. Give me break Reilly was not fit, I didn't any problem with him except was trying hard enough that's only reason he taken off he didn't want to know. At one stage he cribbing to the line Fermanagh was holding his jeresy when we looking for someone to win the ball around the middle. For me its getting close to the time forget about all together. No doubt he a class player with serious talent but he docent work hard enough off the ball. He gave away soft free too which Fermanagh scored due to his total lack of ability to tackle properly. I think people are over reacting to lose yesterday I taught tried hard enough and just came up short. there was positives Fermanagh didn't score much from play for the hole game our defense was solid enough. Like you I am hoping the selectors could change things in our favor. you never know. I forget about that game yesterday yes we could have won with 14 but it wasn't to be.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 08/02/2016 15:03:42    1823542

BTW Bryan Menton played and starred for D/Ash in the league over the weekend..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/02/2016 15:33:54    1823566

Defensively I thought we were pretty sound I thought the ref was a little harsh on us, penalising some of our defenders for some brave and strong tackling. Harnan had a great game, tbh I thought the whole half back line were very good, (Finn improved a lot from Armagh)

Midfield we were cleaned out, I felt sorry for Rooney he was trying to do a two man job in there but I don't he can be blamed.

Forwards, COS is improving with every game he could do with somebody as quick as him offering supporting runs. Tobin showed very well in the first half won a lot of ball. After that I'm struggling, Reilly was clearly not himself I don't understand why he didn't come off, he may as well have not been there. McEntee, I've asked it before and I'll ask again, Where is the evidence that he is a forward? He played badly against a poor Armagh team and was a complete passenger yesterday! He played very well last year as a defender, but because he plays as a forward for a bad junior team he's automatically a forward at county level? Overall MOD was right the forwards was where we were let down

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 08/02/2016 15:53:15    1823576

Question ?
Where are we going to get our next win ?
our fixtures are as follows

Cavan at Home
Galway away
Tryone home
Derry away
Laois away

What you think ?

duelplayer1 (Meath) - Posts: 97 - 08/02/2016 16:11:05    1823589

"but because he plays as a forward for a bad junior team he's automatically a forward at county level?"

You do know that Curragha won the Leinster Junior championship, don't you? Surely that makes them a good Junior team.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 08/02/2016 16:13:01    1823592

Fair point anfearbeag I think I overstepped the mark with that one, but the point of my comment about McEntees position remains.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 08/02/2016 17:01:47    1823620

The Cavan and Laois games are arguably the most important now in terms of picking up points and favourable head-to-head results. They will be most fired up for the Tyrone game at home, so you never know - points may come from one of the least likely matches as of now. Otherwise, after seven games, there may not be a whole lot between up to four counties trying to avoid the second relegation spot.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 08/02/2016 17:14:25    1823630

Question ?
Where are we going to get our next win ?
our fixtures are as follows

Cavan at Home
Galway away
Tyrone home
Derry away
Laois away

What you think ?

duelplayer1 (Meath) - Posts:13 - 08/02/2016 16:11:05


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Cavan and Laois games would be the target to get points and yet we could get good wins against Galway ,Tyrone and derry and lose to Cavan and Laois!

I think Richieq is right..three weeks break came at a good time for this team and maybe this Fermanagh loss might give us that kick in the backside that will help us over the line..little bit of hurt and some hard done by might give the guys something to chew on for those 3 weeks,hopefully that big chap from ashbourne will be back who was getting very vocal and becoming a leader of the team,that game yesterday was tailored made for him!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 08/02/2016 17:58:08    1823644