Glas is correct. Not one of us is looking for change for the sake of it, its that while we have brought in new players, they are bar one or two exceptions playing to same level or beneath what they replaced. Also the making of same mistakes time and again is so annoying, it gets utterly disheartening from a spectators point of view.
And yes sponsorship has a big say in some counties, i am glad this is getting to be discussed even if in cryptic terms.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/08/2015 20:34:32    1764712

Has Colm O ' Rourke ever went for the job ? Does he have much of a managerial CV ?

On a side note : I watched Laochra Gael on Monday , I bloody love listening to Boylan .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 06/08/2015 10:55:30    1764874

O'Rourke had the U21 job for a while, without any success really. In fact I'm not sure if we even won any matches under his tenure.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 06/08/2015 12:11:20    1764955

Therightstuff he was u21 manager and it was a disastrous tenure, also yes last time he went for it, went into interview and had plans for everything apart from what he would do with seniors, when told to bring his other ideas to county board, but this was specifically about the vacant position, he went on to withdraw and back mod.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/08/2015 21:07:44    1765385

Very interesting, both selectors standing down I think will work in MOD's favour.......

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Giles abdicates Royal role

Donnchadh Boyle
07/08/2015 | 02:30
Trevor Giles will not be part of the Meath backroom team next year, Royal County boss Mick O'Dowd has confirmed.

Former Footballer of the Year Giles joins another selector Seán Kelly in stepping away from the Meath set-up as they look to regroup after a difficult Championship campaign.

O'Dowd has already been given the backing of the county's executive to remain in situ for another two years, with a review after 2016, and his name will go before the clubs for ratification next Monday night.

"At this stage Trevor has given four years to the team," O'Dowd said.


"He has a young family and a physio business to look after and he has given so much already.


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"Seán is the same. He has been involved in Meath teams for four or five years now."

O'Dowd confirmed that the remainder of his backroom team have committed to staying on and that new selectors will be announced, subject to his ratification.

Meath narrowly missed out on promotion back to the top flight for the second successive year but saw their Championship end with defeats to Westmeath in Leinster and Tyrone in the Qualifiers.

"We sat down after the Tyrone game and decided that what this group needs now is consistency," O'Dowd said.

"In three years we have given out 18 Championship debuts with 14 of those in the last two years so we don't want to go back on that work."

County captain Donal Keogan has already publicly backed his manager with another player, Andrew Tormey, also calling on the clubs to retain the manager.

"People have seen us playing football and the 35 minutes against Westmeath in the first half was probably the best 35 minutes any Meath team has played in the last five or six years," he said.

"If we can keep that going for 70 minutes, it would make us a stronghold of football.

"I think we have made unbelievable progress since he has come in. He has given a lot of lads chances that maybe wouldn't have got chances and a lot of us have proved that we are good enough to be playing.

"You wouldn't know what way the clubs will vote. The county board have backed Micko and the players have backed Micko so it will be up to them."

Meath clubs famously ousted Eamonn O'Brien in 2010 after he had lead them to an All-Ireland semi-final appearance and a Leinster title in successive campaigns.

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Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 07/08/2015 09:09:30    1765441

Soo if MOD is staying on he is keeping his backroon team?

hmm......

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/08/2015 09:24:56    1765455

Well Giles stepping down can't really be good for Micko although the CB surely won't be perturbed, it's up to the clubs now, if they retain Micko after ousting O'Brien then you'd realy have to wonder about their thought process, it would be a little baffling to be honest.


"People have seen us playing football and the 35 minutes against Westmeath in the first half was probably the best 35 minutes any Meath team has played in the last five or six years," he said.

This quote really pissed me off to be blunt, I think it was by Donal Keogan by the looks of the article, I'm sorry but apart from 'our best 35mins for the last 5 or 6 years' being nothing but an opinion.......did we actually win the f**king game????

It's a very worrying attitude, I mean is that all we aspire to 3 years into a manager's term = 1 excellent 35mins of football in a Leinster semi final against poor opposition that we've already beaten twice before in the same year and then end up collapsing and losing to them?! It's rubbish and I'm sick of it!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 07/08/2015 09:59:17    1765472

Trevor Giles leaving is bad for MOD staying on. I cant see MOD being kept on now.

db9 (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 07/08/2015 10:10:44    1765477

Htaem

I agree with you,he is talking about 35mins in a game against a very poor side in which we lost! How many times have we played like that over the last few years anyway? It was very much against the grain of performances,and remember Westmeath were woeful in that first half too..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/08/2015 10:28:46    1765493

Itaem
Agree fully.
It is rubbish and I too am sick of it.

its far too cosy. Yes.
Can it be much worse under anyone else? Probably not.
Could someone else get more out of whats there? Probably.
Will some more players become available under new management?. Probably.

With the SAME Manager in charge next year & according to him, the SAME backroom team we'll get Consistency and Continuity alright-NO Chance of CHANGE, just MORE OF THE SAME- humiliating defeats.
And also his public comments are cringeworthy and embarassing - ranging from him running to the press at Bitegate to todays rapier-like insight that the team needs consistency,duh! They'd Not have opponents quaking in their boots anyway.
NO NO NO- its time to start afresh - without the bould Micko!.
If the last 3 years of management justifies the unanimous support of the Executive of Meath GAA, then there are plenty of potential managers who could manage us at that level.
Sometimes when people cant see things for themselves, not renewing a contract is the only way to cut your losses.

meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 07/08/2015 11:05:10    1765516

That coupled with the faux pas earlier in the year about not knowing Westmeath had never beaten Meath in the championship and his claim of the fans 'jumping on our backs' has to make him the most naive captain in the history of Meath football.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 07/08/2015 11:21:51    1765526

You wonder what the real reasons are behind the two selectors leaving at the same time too.Perhaps they have lost confidence?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/08/2015 11:46:14    1765541

Ah stop this... I am by no means a 'sack the manager because it all went wrong type' but I most certainly feel micko got his chance. This is as far as he can take these players. He has found some gems but that is it we have not progressed at all. He needs to go now especially after both selectors leaving! Come on micko

Beautiful.Meath (Meath) - Posts: 537 - 07/08/2015 11:49:22    1765544

"A number of names have been linked as new selectors with O'Dowd intimating that he any announcement would not be made until clubs had ratified him".

That's just not good enough.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 07/08/2015 12:24:46    1765574

Just a word on the young players, MOD has brought in new players.But you only get around 6 or 7 years these days players retire around 29 30 ish MOD has got 3 years and done nothing. Giles retired at 30 I think, so did Fay and came back, Brian Meade was around 30 also.
The retirement age is getting younger each year. Some lads might be young but if you start losing a yard a pace at 27 or 28 you might not be as affective as you where at 22 23. As a manager its important to hit the ground running these days. Mod has not done that.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 07/08/2015 13:06:36    1765598

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"A number of names have been linked as new selectors with O'Dowd intimating that he any announcement would not be made until clubs had ratified him".

That's just not good enough.

I know where you're coming from. O'Dowd's management team should be made known before the clubs vote him in or out. Whoever he brings in could sway the vote either way. However, I can see it from his point of view also. We're either fully behind him or we're not, regardless of who he brings in. Personally, I'd like to know who he plans to add to the backroom team beforehand as well but I can understand where he seems to be coming from also. I'd still back him regardless.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 07/08/2015 13:23:03    1765610

Would you say the majority of supporters want him to stay or go? regardless of that it's a sinking ship at this stage. With all his selectors gone he should have done the honourable thing.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 07/08/2015 13:25:35    1765612

MMM indeed. I think though that he would need to have had a good track record (some success behind him in the last three seasons) and have shown himself to be a shrewd operator, to be worthy of a mandate in his own right and given the benefit of any doubt. The facts are that he hasn't. He is now asking the delegates to take a leap of faith in him that he can be successful, where he failed before. His old management team of high profile people failed, why would a new management team of unknown persons be considered a credible proposition.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 07/08/2015 13:52:36    1765629

Clubs should have full visibility of the management team before the vote - it's not acceptable in my opinion for O'Dowd after 3 unsuccessful years to dictate that the he won't name the selectors until he is voted back in. It suggests that the backroom team isn't even finalised.

MOD has been given enough time and we haven't seen any progress. Between Carr, McEntee, O'Rourke, ex-meath legends and successful current club managers such as Nelson or Sheridan there is plenty of other options which should be explored.

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 07/08/2015 14:00:45    1765635

The first half against westmeath was good but we've played far better in last 5 or6 years. The first half against Dublin 2 years ago, the draw with Donegal and obviously a bit further back the 5 goals against Dublin, even last year's win against Kildare was better due too superior opposition. If we're clinging on too a first half performance against westmeath then we're in trouble. I'm not in the MOD camp but a greater chunk of responsibility is with the players. They needed too stand up when the onslaught came and they didn't....yes the manager is partly too blame but if ya think it's all his fault then yee have never kicked a ball or been involved with a football team in your lives

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 07/08/2015 14:02:04    1765638