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royaldunne that's the most sensationalised comments I've read in some time. If meath football is FINISHED, it happened a long time before the 10th Aug or MOD took charge. We are expecting miraculous results from thin air. Up until recently we hadn't looked like a county who heard about modern football, with the new county board and management we, as a county are in a much better place than 5 years ago. We need leaders and top level players not more rotations of the manager, micko won't be the one out on the pitch.

Unless there is an ideal candidate for the job it makes no sense to do the typical meath supporter thing and call for MOD's head.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 04/08/2015 20:37:43    1764015

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nobull

I don't think they have anything to do with appointing the management.Infact their influence is small,they only advice on certain things at underage,but that does not mean that the advice will be heeded..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/08/2015 20:43:46    1764018

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Jim McGuinness having a go at Fermanagh for celebration a bit for doing well against Dublin.I like Jim,he sets the standards high,would love it if MOD was like that,but he seems the polar opposite..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/08/2015 20:46:25    1764021

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Would be really interested too know what role exactly this steering committee fulfil. What are their plans for Meath football, how often do they meet, who do they report too, what power if any do they have to make change , or is it just recommendations that will sit on a desk somewhere. Surely they have some say in appointment of next manager.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2144 - 04/08/2015 20:58:01    1764030

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Much better place than five years ago? That statement definitely gets the award for ostrich of the year award

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2144 - 04/08/2015 21:03:49    1764036

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Seadog i was thinking the exact same thing.
Some peoples views on mod are hilarious to say the least. Excuses excuses excuses. Unreal, i am all about calling it as it is. And mick O'Dowd is the worst manager of Meath i can ever remember, and i was born in 60s, also he is the worst inter county manager this year. And if you think otherwise you haven't gone to many games. Hell of a nice guy, but nice guys finish last.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/08/2015 21:17:52    1764043

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Royal what I say and it's only my opionion is that there will be discussion and certain clubs and individual s will speak but I don't think there will be a vote... Your getting a bit dramatic in your posts time to chill out a bit

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 04/08/2015 21:43:30    1764059

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We're in a better place in terms of a future, we may have caught a Dublin team in transition, in a freak game but that wasn't a true reflection of us. Poor showing against Offaly, 2 go's at Laois, a shambles of a performance against Louth and a limp exit to Kildare. The past is always looked on fondly.. I can see a future for this group, chopping and changing will do no good if it's for the sake of change. If we actually stop being deluded and take stock, genuinely and accurately asses the county, as opposed to having highfalutin notions about ourselves we can finally make progress. On another point money talks, we won't win an All Ireland unless cold hard cash is pumped into the Senior Team, unfortunate but true.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 04/08/2015 22:02:32    1764077

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We're not asking for change for the sake of it; we're asking because Meath are underachieving. I have some hope for this group of players too (just not high hopes), but they will not be realised under MOD. We're not aiming to win All-Ireland's, we're aiming to be competitive again and worthy of respect. Not with the expectation of beating the top 6 teams in the country in the near future, but been good enough to beat the rest and actually doing so throughout the season ... league, championship, qualifiers. Not always losing tight/close games against second/third tier opposition.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 05/08/2015 11:48:40    1764219

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Cold hard cash??

What are you on about? Money spent on the senior team in what way?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2015 12:12:35    1764240

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Agree with Glas

and if we do that,you never know who you could add to the panel in the coming years,but you could push on again..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2015 12:13:57    1764243

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Ziggy Yes cold hard cash, is it a foreign concept?

Do you think the countless top class coaches that work with Jim Gavin do so on a voluntary basis? The top four counties spend a lot more than the rest. It's naive to suggest financing the senior team plays no role in determining a teams success.

I don't think MOD's the perfect fit for the job but unless we have an ideal candidate we're taking 2 steps backwards putting in a new face, one which we will be having the same argument over in 2 years time. For me introducing some quality into the background is more important than finding a new scapegoat.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 05/08/2015 13:07:29    1764313

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Do you think that the Meath county board have the same money to spend on coaches like Dublin do? :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2015 14:14:26    1764383

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You can talk all you like about money etc, but what really "pisses" me off over the last 3 years is when you see the same mistakes being made time and again by team management. There's a complete inability in the current senior team to be flexible in the way they play, it's either all out attack or overly defensive.
When you look at coaching for underage teams in clubs around Meath, I'd have to say it's way behind the likes of Dublin/Tyrone/Kerry/Tipperary etc. The fact that there's bugger all underage success at IC level stands testament to that. Players are not being brought through with the proper skills coaching.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 05/08/2015 15:05:50    1764454

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The CB's stance on MOD suggests to me, that he is supported due to the state of their finances (or for financial reasons), because it isn't for his footballing/managerial acumen. Not that others within the county (at least) would cost more, in terms of resources.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 05/08/2015 15:06:34    1764455

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2thewheel

Do you honestly think just throwing more money at the senior set up is going to improve us? As from with I've heard the senior don't want for anything. 4 star hotel for meals and training with all the bells and whistles. Top coaches like Dublin all paid for. What else would you spend money on? Our senior set up gets as much as most other counties.

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 05/08/2015 17:13:57    1764588

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2thewheel

In my opinion throwing money at it is just lazy thinking. Money never won anything in football it helps to maintain a certain level alright but that's it. How about this for a thought.... Are we spending to much money at senior level? Are we spending the appropriate amount on underage and development of all club and county? Clearing what's being done at the moment isn't working. Getting rid of mod and replacing him with someone else with an even bigger budget doesn't seem to me like recipe for success.

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 05/08/2015 17:41:47    1764609

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Sponsors can sometimes have a big say in who is manager if they sponsor the team .....JUST A THOUGHT !!!!!!!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 05/08/2015 17:43:21    1764612

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username.if I don't know what the spend is like for the senior team, I'd have thought it would be fairly adequate alright but no doubt behind the top 4/6 whatever teams. It's not just the senior team, the money needs to be flowing through all areas of the game in the county. I agree totally with you on changing faces for the sake of pride/having a bad year, a rational head is needed in the CB. I would love to see a 5-10 year plan based on improving the structures of club and county from underage all the way up to senior.

shldrs2thewheel (Meath) - Posts: 200 - 05/08/2015 18:05:21    1764630

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Well I would agree with you there..

Still not sure about Dunganny,it is a facility,but facilities are no good without structure..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2015 19:53:35    1764689

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