I do not accept that the thread is overly NEGATIVE. I believe people have said it as it is. Therefore, sincere ,honest and realistic seems to fit better. By any objective measurement in 3 years we have made no progress .How can anyone who has no other agenda say otherwise?? The proof of the pudding is in the eating!! I think the CB can make the position more attractive to any new man by committing to assisting to develop the person ,provide with all the resources needed to bring our management up to speed.I think the plus is that we appear to have a CB who want to do the right thing for Meath football.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 20/07/2015 15:08:48    1756434

20/07/2015 11:18:23
Cusack09
County: Meath
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Mark my words , he is not the County Chairman's son....You might check your facts before you single out a player like that.
20/07/2015 11:31:09
ziggy32001
County: Meath
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yeah Andrew Tormey is a NEPHEW of Conor Tormeys......

Apologies lads, bad mistake to make. Thanks for pointing it out.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 20/07/2015 15:38:44    1756461

Out of interest lads, for arguments sake, is there anybody that could make the step up to the county job if MOD isn't given another term?

Personally I don't think there's a great selection available to us right now! MOD has radically changed the team and blooded a lot of young players, he now has a core of young talent in that team!

If nobody else is right for the job it should be left to MOD I think.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 20/07/2015 15:41:55    1756462

Even if MOD is left with the job, he has proved he can not meet the job requirements after 3 years. SO, he or whoever, cannot continue with the same approach,and achieve better results . Too many ifs and buts and dependance on "luck" Therefore ,as has been proven over the past 12 to 15 years there is a considerable gap between our expertise available and the level required to do the job NOWADAYS . So the VITAL issue is fill that gap starting now. Then whoever is in the role needs to be given 5 years with annual reviews. I certainly do not know of anyone Made to measure at present.
This is clearly a development issue for the county board to deal with. To leave MOD there just because we think we have no better is indeed not the answer. Time to dispense with sticking plaster solutions .

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 20/07/2015 16:40:25    1756513

Its 2015,its about time we brought in a manager to bring us in this century.Traditional football will not win you anything these days,not even Kerry play traditionally..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2015 16:52:38    1756529

YES ziggy thats it in a nutshell.. Investment in required expertise is maybe even more important than Dunganny right now.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 20/07/2015 17:33:37    1756566

This military quotation is often relevant : I would rather have a general who was Lucky than one who was good. (Napoleon Bonaparte)
I am confident that the current Meath Steering Group of (Sean Boylan, Gerry mcEntee and Colm ORourke) and the current Chairman aided by his County Board Executive are well capable of accurately assessing (between them all) what is now required.
In the search for a new manager, I would expect any affects on revenue or attendances at Meath games in 2016 will be one of many factors taken into consideration especially now with the new costs of Dunganny and those proposed for Pairc Tailteann now imminent. I dont expect any hopes or wishful thinking from the combined experience, strengths and competence of these men who are charged with plotting the future of Meath GAA and its players.
No doubt these men would consider some of the defeats suffered by Meath in recent years to be unacceptable. And I expect the best available outcome and manager to arrest this trend (of poor results) will be found after appropriate combined research and efforts are used. I expect them to say 'this far and No further' and that realistic and comphrehensive plans will be put in place for Meath football later this year.

meath1967 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 20/07/2015 17:41:16    1756573

Yes i agree we are lucky to have 3 wise men and a good chairman.......GO FOR IT MEN.! THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU IN THIS MOST IMPORTANT JOB

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 20/07/2015 18:15:01    1756607

Meath1967. Well said

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/07/2015 20:09:45    1756665

2012 Top 12, 2013 Top 12, 2014 Top 12, 2015 Top 16, 2016 Top 20?

It would be a real shame if nobody put their name into the mix and contested the position of manager. It would also be terrible if certain people let personal friendships cloud their professional judgement and do nothing.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 20/07/2015 20:47:05    1756684

Glas

I am sure some guys will put their name forward.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2015 21:59:02    1756734

Someone asked earlier is their an alternative to MOD..

Could I suggest Liam Harnan perhaps??

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 21/07/2015 08:25:54    1756739

brian

Could be...

Its not just about the actual manager,its the staff as a whole.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2015 10:39:02    1756792

Yes that's very important, its no longer a one man show, it could be up to 10 people in backroom, its very important to get all appointment correct, it cant be pick me and ill bring me buddies.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/07/2015 11:27:37    1756830

WANTED : Forwards coach ,Mid field coach cKeeper coach ,Backs coach ,tactical coach To name a few

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 21/07/2015 12:13:58    1756866

Well the best teams in Ireland have those sort of coaches..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2015 12:22:50    1756873

RP that's exactly it, think there is too much emphasis on who manager is, once he is passionate and leads by example, and of course has plans abcd. Then we need a fully professional set up in backroom, look i have nothing against any club in Meath and i wont bash anyone but there is no way should a intermediate club have 5 senior players on when we chasing a Leinster semi final, a third of the team? Come on, even 4 id take but 5? Has to be better scouting of players.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/07/2015 13:05:23    1756908

Royaldunne- I would agree with you, however I am not impressed by any alternatives being mentioned as managers. I would say that we need some defenders who have pace and who can defend. Against Wicklow and against Westmeath there was some very good forward play by some individuals, however most of the defenders were pedestrian like with their movement of the ball into attack and unable to defend when required (the clubs need to be better explored!). You cannot expect guys who play forward all week resorting to defenders on an inter county team. You also require half forwards who can also cover ground and defend similar to mid fielders. You always need a defensive midfielder and an attacking mid fielder. On the bright side, with a small bit of luck, Tyrone should have been beaten in Omagh in very difficult conditions.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/07/2015 14:33:48    1756999

Browncows again some bad shot selection v Tyrone coat us in end, but Tyrone have been very lucky with draw, this is still worst Tyrone team in 2 decades and beating Tipp and Sligo will not change that.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/07/2015 14:57:02    1757018

No morale victories in losing to a Tyrone team who were poor against us..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2015 15:15:52    1757029