So now we're getting an All Ireland Final fixed for Pairc Tailteann, this can only be positive news in terms of the grounds future and will bring great extra revenue locally. A great boost for Navan and Meath GAA

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 20/04/2015 19:01:27    1715835

Reports now suggesting that pt wont hold u21 game due to health and safety reasons. Surely this is the final straw?? How can anyone say not to sell naming rights, stand terrace names to help fund a redevelopment is crazy.
Also this maybe a prelude to our game v Wicklow. Meath have lost substantial revenue by this one game alone. Sad and depressing times for the once great pairc tailteen

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 09:55:17    1717287

What are these health and safety concerns I have to ask? The place recently held a Leinster U21 Final, recently held a crowd of around 8'000 for Meath v Cavan, what had happened since to raise such concerns about its ability to host Tyrone v Roscommon?? I recognise the place badly needs renovating and has done for some time but we need clarity and equality regarding these health and safety regulations. Drogheda was able to keep its grass banks open, Walsh Park in Waterford replaced grass banks with a gravel/shale surface, not even proper stepped terrace, and this was deemed acceptable. O'Donnell Park in Letterkenny had similar gravel or stone embankments to stand on and there appears to be no issue. I would consider that type of banking as potentially dangerous as a grass bank if not more so, I don't understand why PT seems to have no leeway with regards to these matters but others do. Again I'm not condoning its condition, successive county boards have turned a blind eye to the place and the present administration have been left with a ball of s@@t as far as PT is concerned but they are making inroads and they will progress the place I have no doubt.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 25/04/2015 11:40:13    1717316

Richeiq id say and rumour has it that its the stand. I think even during this league campaign you could see it had gotten worse than last year . I was told late last year that the stand only just past a h&s inspection, IF that is the case then that is why it wouldn't pass at minute. Now maybe some slight remedial works can take place to do it soon that will keep it open. But i think we are getting to the stage where the whole ground will be forced to close very shortly, 2 years id say. Very depressing.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 12:38:08    1717338

Load of rubbish it is on the GAA Web site for Navan still.. some silly rumours I reckon

glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1108 - 25/04/2015 13:57:24    1717350

Hope your right glenny, but it still doesn't solve the long term problem of the worsening condition of pt.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 14:25:20    1717356

http://www.hoganstand.com/Meath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=236108.
Looks like its not just a rumour glenny. Terrible for the town and worse for pairc tailteen

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 14:32:08    1717357

There's no health and safety problems with the Navan pitch, maybe one in some moron's head!!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 25/04/2015 15:28:49    1717370

Nothing wrong with the pitch browncows its the facilities, public health and safety rather than players.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 15:54:11    1717373

I think the "but the pitch is great" argument is a bit of a red herring. Safety inspections and insurance appraisals don't usually involve heading down to poke the sod + measure the grass and then gauge what the safe capacity is from the results. Its the decrepit state of the stand that lets Páírc Tailteann down, no pitch on earth can make up for that.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1647 - 25/04/2015 16:18:36    1717379

Well it's confirmed the game is moved to Parnell Park due to remedial works being carried out on PT, whatever they involve in not sure, maybe someone can enlighten us. An awful loss to the county board and to Navan itself, one has to ask how the game could have been fixed for PT in the first place without a prior inspection or some knowledge of work being carried out, all seems a bit unprofessional but maybe someone can enlighten us as I say

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 25/04/2015 17:09:16    1717398

While I accept the PT is in disrepair and selling the naming rights to help raise money for it's renovation is a given, I have to say I find this a little odd. I mean if it was safe enough to allow up to 10,000 (or whatever the exact amount is) in during the O'Byrne cup, League and upcoming Wicklow game then why is it all of a sudden too dangerous for the U21 final?

If it really is that dangerous then the place should be closed down with immediate effect, I certainly don't want to be standing in a dangerous stadium come June, something smells a bit off here, we need some answers.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/04/2015 17:22:47    1717404

I did hear that a series of works were planned before the Wicklow game to ensure capacity and make sure the place looked as good as possible for our first Leinster home game in 20 years, maybe something cropped up that required more urgent attention but yes I do think as supporters we deserve answers on this and as to what the short, medium and long term plan with regard to PT is

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 25/04/2015 18:19:01    1717415

Totally agree, we need answers, have we been putting ourselves and our children in danger attending pt? Or is this a red herring???
I have been told before , last year to be precise that the stand was in bad (structure) condition and that work needed to be done on it, i assumed this meant reinforcements to pillars etc, but i also assumed this had been done and thought no more about it, but surely now is the time for action, we cannot keep burying our heads in the sand, we are getting very close to the stage where we will be closed down, lets take the bull by the horns and have a definite movement, a architect should be employed asap to draw up plans etc . Enough is enough.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2015 20:26:41    1717435

At the end of the day,the general poor state of PT is coming home to roost....

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/04/2015 20:56:04    1717448

The main problem is the state the pitch surface was left in due, to the winter training with hardly any grass within 25m of each goal mouth- it is indeed a pity that the folk in charge did not have the sense to use Dunganny for training as I had assumed that was what it was constructed for.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 26/04/2015 17:59:58    1717639

That's it royaldunne, PT does face the very real threat of being closed down, it may or may not be an imminent threat but if nothing is done soon the day of closure will come.

I'm very curious as to why Navan was given the U21 final only to have it taken away, it raises far more questions than answers and there's plenty of possible conclusion. Was this a stunt? did someone make a huge oversight? was their a complaint? is PT unsafe? and if so why has it only come to light now and why were we all allowed in since January?

Awarding Navan the final and taking it away so quickly doesn't make a lot of sense, what happened?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/04/2015 12:04:34    1717895

Htaem that's it we need a clear and no bull answer, why was it given? Why was it taken away? What was the problem? Was it known prior to this game? If yes then why were we allowed in? What is been done to make it safe??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/04/2015 13:40:07    1717966

People, don't worry about the Wicklow game - it is not in doubt. The issue is regarding the floodlights which failed a stress test by Health and Safety from Croke Park last week. In a tornado the red tape brigade questioned their safety.
It looks like they might need to be taken down and extra bracing put in. It will cost a pretty penny unfortunately but there is no issue with either the pitch surface or the stand.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 471 - 27/04/2015 17:17:56    1718121

Roger

People, don't worry about the Wicklow game - it is not in doubt. The issue is regarding the floodlights which failed a stress test by Health and Safety from Croke Park last week. In a tornado the red tape brigade questioned their safety.

Ok thanks for the response, but again this is the sort of thing that baffles me, I mean why did they fix the U21 final for Navan before doing a safety check and why all of a sudden do they deem the floodlights to be unsafe. I mean were they perfectly safe in January, February and March when we're far more likely to get tornadoes than in May? it's still quite confusing and I'm still not fully convinced.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/04/2015 18:13:39    1718149