ziggy . you are right we should have our Co players down coaching the under 14 15 16 and helping out with the mentors who are there at the moment .they would know all the players and would look up to them and it would make them want to play for Meath instead of M.U .

Rathcairn (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 17/07/2015 17:07:41    1755030

Exactly,buty we don't have that at all.. I know If I was a young lad and knew their were ex-players or players down at these sessions I would be excited..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/07/2015 18:22:31    1755067

ziggy

At times you seem to know a lot about Meath football so I'm assuming you already know who is coaching development panels u16 colm coyle, u17 barry callaghan, minors had Joe sheridan and ian kearney as selectors. It's great that ex players get involved but they must be the right men who want to work together over a 3/4 year period. Not just parachuted in because they played inter county and must know more. That type of thinking has us in the situation were in. Bring them in, use there experience plus send them on proper coaching levels even ex inter county players can learn new tricks.not all ex players make good coaches I've personal experience of a few and I assume a lot of posters here can say the same also

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 18/07/2015 12:15:34    1755196

There are two things you're guaranteed to hear at the end of every minor season (from every county). The first is "Some of the lads are still underage next year, so we'll have an advantage" as though every other county fielded a team of players in their last year minor.

Second is the "Unlike the rest of the country, players are picked on relations/reputations here instead of skill". Funny how every county claims that they are unique in this aspect, its such a weak excuse and has no basis whatsoever.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1647 - 18/07/2015 15:51:35    1755263

Username

No I agree with you 100%.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 18/07/2015 17:36:06    1755306

i think ye got youre tactics wrong against us. ye have big men, and would of givin kildare a better game than us. were small but fast, ye opted to bully us and we fought our corner. but if we played ye in meath it would be a different outcome id say. head up meath,

PeterFLynne21 (Longford) - Posts: 39 - 19/07/2015 20:18:54    1755971

Considering the talent that was in this age group, something seriously wrong. Whether the correct programmes for lads at under 14 right up to 18 on strength and conditioning were wrong or if they were even there in the first place? Or manager picked the incorrect 15, plenty of lads mentioned here who would be worth their salt. Tough times ahead

Keeks (Louth) - Posts: 146 - 20/07/2015 11:40:52    1756235

usename- I would tend to agree with you and add that some of the names mentioned did very little coaching with their own clubs where the real certs in coaching starts.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/07/2015 12:08:57    1756258

Peter

It seems our managers are always getting their tactics wrong,I wish we could have better managers involved..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2015 13:34:47    1756338

The big issue with coaching is the lack of a coaching presence in the schools in the county.Take Ashbourne as an example.There are 5 or 6 primary schools in the town where soccer and rugby are very popular but Don/Ash have no coach in these schools either coaching or recruiting.Now I'm not having a go at the club as its the Co board policy but to me it's crazy stuff.The GPO system works really well in the counties that use it.Long gone are the days where kids just turn up at their GAA clubs you have to go and get them in.The wider the net the bigger the catch.Its the main reason the Dubs have such a conveyor belt of quality players coming through as their clubs put coaches in schools to recruit and start coaching.The GPO's also will recruit and coach the mentors in each club.Its time we implement some type of properly organised coaching system in the county as we are becoming a joke and this problem won't fix itself.I would really urge the Co board to front up and address the issue as its the REAL reason we're on such a slide in recent years

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 20/07/2015 22:00:01    1756735

User name , just a point , Coyle and O Callaghan , were parachuted in after U15 level David Harford , and Tommy Maguire and their Management teams had those teams from U15- U15 , both failed to win the Gerry Reilly Competition. Joe Sheridan was added to the Denis O Shea back room team , but had to drop out mid season as he couldn't commit .Barry O Callaghan has departed the U17 team scene due to work commitments . this group of players haven't done anything this year worth talking about .The U17 Developemtnm squad should be the most critical squad pre minor , but what are we doing this year , nothing , as there's no manager
The Management teams at this level must be made up of guys that know what they are doing , and that have done it at club and elsewhere . There's no point in forcing any X county player to be involved , because as soon as the shine wears off they may just head into the sunset, as has happened in the recent past , Mr Reilly , Mr O Callaghan ,Mr Sheridan . The Coaches involved must be made up of guys who want to be there , and it must be also portrayed as a personal coach development system whereby they are benefiting from been involved , getting to know the best practices and hopefully develop future Senior County players and Managers on the way . Not every successful coach was a successful Inter County player , not every inter county player can make a good coach ..... Like a good player , the manager/coach must have attributes and the attitude to succeed . Not everyone has these .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 21/07/2015 13:39:19    1756942

Abu

That's what my point was. Just picking ex county players isn't a recipe for success but it definitely would be an advantage in having young lads around their idols. Put the proper resources in place both for coaches and players. Andy mc antee did very well with minors 3/4 years ago yet isn't involved with the u-21. Why? Why do we chop and change every year

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 21/07/2015 21:54:26    1757311

Username , Credit where credit is due , Andy did get to the All Ireland Minor Final , however that was via the back door system after a last minute goal got them into the final . They were annihilated in the Leinster Final by Dublin , and ended up on All Ireland day due to opposition naivety. That team however was usurped at U17 level from a different group of Coaches that had brought them thru from U14 level,Eamon Wallace was a panellist , but not considered good enough to play , Adam Flanagan was part of that team as was Shane McEntee, and James ( though I ma not sure either figured on the U16/U17 teams up to that point) .So in essence Andy was parachuted in to that minor team , just like all the other managers up to Denis O Shea this year . . Just wiping the rose tint from the glass's there.

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 24/07/2015 14:27:56    1758442

Abu

But that's the problem it wasn't Andy's fault he was picked to coach these teams. It's the fault of county board they should be selecting the coach with a view to taking them to minor and on. This would root out the wannabe coaches (eg ex county players) who just want the minor or u-21 jobs. But what really happens is nobody really cares about underage til at least minor then good coaches are given the jobs instead of developing the teams with these coaches from 14s up. Nothing will change til we look long and hard at underage structures and appointments. In my view coaches should be given 14 to minor with yearly reviews plus coaches reporting quarterly also. A long side training our coaches further as they progress with their team.

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 25/07/2015 10:52:36    1758669