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Replying To Bear10: "valid point re these kids as a lot their parents are Dublin supporters all there lives Maybe when these kids get a bit older and are playing competitively in Meath they might change but cant see it happening . Just checked re under 14 structure in Meath with our club . Only Trials were held on one day with no regional teams in operation.at all. I think this is quite a poor way of operating an under 14 team ." Bear , it was clearly stated that the regional thing in Meath at U14/U15 level occurred in 2014+ 2015 . And that this did not appear to be the case in 2016 . This in truth may have had a lot to do with the lateness in appointing Managers to the U14 /U16 squads by the Co B.. As the Meath Coachin and Games Dept brought our a white paper programme for Meath GAA Player Development and adopted the regional team system in 2015 following upon the apparent success of the system in 2014 at U14 level . I'm not sure if this system has been canned or just was not completed in 2016 due to time issues . Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 21/07/2016 08:53:20 1887391 Link
Funding for underage teams is a problem but it's always been a problem. Our county boards over the years just don't care about development squads they only do what they have to the basics at most. I've been to a lot of sessions in dunganny and have yet to see CB members attend any of these training sessions, not even one of the five committee members tasked to pick our coaches and over see the development teams attend. How can they know what's been done? And how can they make the correct decisions for the long term? To me it seems there's no clear plan from CB and we'll continue to under preform unless they take it seriously. username.if (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 21/07/2016 09:48:51 1887410 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "Bear , it was clearly stated that the regional thing in Meath at U14/U15 level occurred in 2014+ 2015 . And that this did not appear to be the case in 2016 . This in truth may have had a lot to do with the lateness in appointing Managers to the U14 /U16 squads by the Co B.. As the Meath Coachin and Games Dept brought our a white paper programme for Meath GAA Player Development and adopted the regional team system in 2015 following upon the apparent success of the system in 2014 at U14 level . I'm not sure if this system has been canned or just was not completed in 2016 due to time issues ." Yes that is what I said that their were no regional teams this year at under 14 . Not sure about under 16 but this is a competitive level. Think they just play non competitive games at under 14 level for development squads . I am sure there were a lot if under club managers out there that are qualified to look after regional teams . This is the first thing the development manager should have installed . I don't know much about under 14 level this year but I do think it is unfortunate for all those kids who did not get a chance to try out this year. afterall it is all about those lads. who is the development manager this year and his team Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 21/07/2016 12:48:04 1887566 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "Bear , it was clearly stated that the regional thing in Meath at U14/U15 level occurred in 2014+ 2015 . And that this did not appear to be the case in 2016 . This in truth may have had a lot to do with the lateness in appointing Managers to the U14 /U16 squads by the Co B.. As the Meath Coachin and Games Dept brought our a white paper programme for Meath GAA Player Development and adopted the regional team system in 2015 following upon the apparent success of the system in 2014 at U14 level . I'm not sure if this system has been canned or just was not completed in 2016 due to time issues ." I certainly hope it hasn't been canned,because it was clearly working.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2016 12:53:33 1887574 Link
Threes a young guy from the club who said that the Meath U15s went thru a regionalised system of selection this year as well . Peadar Gilseanin is involved , with Joe Treanor from Walterstown the Manager . They appear to be doing well all said . Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 21/07/2016 16:18:18 1887762 Link
Replying To royaljackeen: "All development squads are different depending on who is in charge... They normally happen at the beginning of the year when players are playing different sports. This years u15 trials were held in April I think, yet the u15 leagues don't start till September !!! At u15 they'd 2 trials to pick the 4 regional squads. Then each squad played each other once to pick the final squad of 50 I think." Trials held for U14, U15 & U16 football n hurling earlier this year. Did not see anything u17 or Minor. U15 football had region teams after trials in the regions with coaches from each area. We have not won anything in a while so jury is out on if they are working. Steering Cmttee took office only a year or two ago so answer in two years time. U16 hurlers did well last week and I saw the U16 footballers did well in JR but slipped up against Cavan. Minors unlucky. U17 u15 & u14 doing ok from reports. MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 21/07/2016 16:47:00 1887788 Link
Replying To Chaisleain_Abu: "Threes a young guy from the club who said that the Meath U15s went thru a regionalised system of selection this year as well . Peadar Gilseanin is involved , with Joe Treanor from Walterstown the Manager . They appear to be doing well all said ." This is true. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2016 16:47:25 1887789 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "Trials held for U14, U15 & U16 football n hurling earlier this year. Did not see anything u17 or Minor. U15 football had region teams after trials in the regions with coaches from each area. We have not won anything in a while so jury is out on if they are working. Steering Cmttee took office only a year or two ago so answer in two years time. U16 hurlers did well last week and I saw the U16 footballers did well in JR but slipped up against Cavan. Minors unlucky. U17 u15 & u14 doing ok from reports." In fairness the minor team could have went a long way.The structure in minor is wrong in Leinster but that is another story. For me there are without question improvements at underage,teams look well coached as far as I can see.The issue will be,can they be progressed and keep improving as far as minor and especially afterwards.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2016 17:05:58 1887803 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "But they do have region teams. Meath West,Meath East,Meath North and Meath South." HS has these names for teams U14H Philip Lyons, Philip Lanigan, Kevin McGovern, Jimmy O'Kane, Ger Clarke. U14F Anthony Monaghan (Castletown), Kit Henry (Cortown), Vinny Ryan (Ballinlough) U15H Neil Cole, Tommy Leavy, Jamie Hackett, Damien Healy U15F Joe Treanor, Paddy Gilsenan, Garrett Fitzsimons, Paul Murphy, Paul Nestor, Owen Ganly U16H Paul McCann, Niall Flynn, Mark Munnelly, Pauraic Bourke U16 Ronan Kearns (St Pats), Shane McAnarney (Clann), Martin Blake (St Brigids), Daithi Whyte (St Pats), Paul Clarke (Simonstown), Martin O'Connell (St Michaels) U17H Nick Fitzgerald, Pat O'Halloran, Rory Dowling, James Toher U17F Colm Coyle, Kenny Morgan MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 22/07/2016 10:42:29 1888066 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "HS has these names for teams U14H Philip Lyons, Philip Lanigan, Kevin McGovern, Jimmy O'Kane, Ger Clarke. U14F Anthony Monaghan (Castletown), Kit Henry (Cortown), Vinny Ryan (Ballinlough) U15H Neil Cole, Tommy Leavy, Jamie Hackett, Damien Healy U15F Joe Treanor, Paddy Gilsenan, Garrett Fitzsimons, Paul Murphy, Paul Nestor, Owen Ganly U16H Paul McCann, Niall Flynn, Mark Munnelly, Pauraic Bourke U16 Ronan Kearns (St Pats), Shane McAnarney (Clann), Martin Blake (St Brigids), Daithi Whyte (St Pats), Paul Clarke (Simonstown), Martin O'Connell (St Michaels) U17H Nick Fitzgerald, Pat O'Halloran, Rory Dowling, James Toher U17F Colm Coyle, Kenny Morgan" Have you seen many of these teams play? Especially regarding football? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 22/07/2016 11:39:27 1888112 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Have you seen many of these teams play? Especially regarding football?" is that Fitzsimons chap any good Ziggy :) WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 22/07/2016 13:08:08 1888156 Link
Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "is that Fitzsimons chap any good Ziggy :)" The young player? Yeah he is a good player,but it is very hard to pick individuals out at present.They work well as a team unit. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 22/07/2016 13:20:14 1888160 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "HS has these names for teams U14H Philip Lyons, Philip Lanigan, Kevin McGovern, Jimmy O'Kane, Ger Clarke. U14F Anthony Monaghan (Castletown), Kit Henry (Cortown), Vinny Ryan (Ballinlough) U15H Neil Cole, Tommy Leavy, Jamie Hackett, Damien Healy U15F Joe Treanor, Paddy Gilsenan, Garrett Fitzsimons, Paul Murphy, Paul Nestor, Owen Ganly U16H Paul McCann, Niall Flynn, Mark Munnelly, Pauraic Bourke U16 Ronan Kearns (St Pats), Shane McAnarney (Clann), Martin Blake (St Brigids), Daithi Whyte (St Pats), Paul Clarke (Simonstown), Martin O'Connell (St Michaels) U17H Nick Fitzgerald, Pat O'Halloran, Rory Dowling, James Toher U17F Colm Coyle, Kenny Morgan" thanks for that . Glad to see Martin o connell involved have seen him in operation at coaching club level and is very good. Anthony Monaghan is also very good but dissappointing to see no regional managers involved at under 14 level football from all the different areas of the county. I think it is vital at the under 14 level in both hurling and football to have everyone included as much as possible within their regions as trials at this age can be very disheartening to kids. The managers need to be going to club games as much as possible Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 22/07/2016 13:40:02 1888170 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "HS has these names for teams U14H Philip Lyons, Philip Lanigan, Kevin McGovern, Jimmy O'Kane, Ger Clarke. U14F Anthony Monaghan (Castletown), Kit Henry (Cortown), Vinny Ryan (Ballinlough) U15H Neil Cole, Tommy Leavy, Jamie Hackett, Damien Healy U15F Joe Treanor, Paddy Gilsenan, Garrett Fitzsimons, Paul Murphy, Paul Nestor, Owen Ganly U16H Paul McCann, Niall Flynn, Mark Munnelly, Pauraic Bourke U16 Ronan Kearns (St Pats), Shane McAnarney (Clann), Martin Blake (St Brigids), Daithi Whyte (St Pats), Paul Clarke (Simonstown), Martin O'Connell (St Michaels) U17H Nick Fitzgerald, Pat O'Halloran, Rory Dowling, James Toher U17F Colm Coyle, Kenny Morgan" thanks for that . Glad to see Martin o connell involved have seen him in operation at coaching club level and is very good. Anthony Monaghan is also very good but dissappointing to see no regional managers involved at under 14 level football from all the different areas of the county. I think it is vital at the under 14 level in both hurling and football to have everyone included as much as possible within their regions as trials at this age can be very disheartening to kids. The managers need to be going to club games as much as possible Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 22/07/2016 13:40:02 1888171 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Have you seen many of these teams play? Especially regarding football?" Have seen the 17s against Roscommon this year and they look ok. Saw the 15s against Wexford and Meath are strong in all positions or Wexford are poor. Saw 16s last year and they too are good. MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 22/07/2016 14:11:21 1888198 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "Have seen the 17s against Roscommon this year and they look ok. Saw the 15s against Wexford and Meath are strong in all positions or Wexford are poor. Saw 16s last year and they too are good." Anyone on the 17's to watch out for? The 15's are very strong. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 22/07/2016 14:27:00 1888208 Link
Does anyone know how many players on the current Meath senior team have come through the development system ??? I do agree that 15s & 16s are very strong but I'm not sure it's just down to the development coaching. I've watched alot of div 1 club games at these ages over the years and I think it's down to very competitive games and some really talented club player's. royaljackeen (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 22/07/2016 17:56:18 1888321 Link
Working well as can be judged at present the system of appointing the u16 setup and giving them three years to minor worked well in its 1st run with Barry Callaghan who will now move to zu21. Great move to get rid of the few loose cannons this year and I expect that to happen again next year. The appointment at u16 level is all important. Having ex managers on here wishing that young panel don't progress is a disgrace but at least we know where they stand and stay on the shelf in future Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 23/07/2016 12:46:45 1888483 Link
Brownepat, ( WhiteDub) as usual you tend to spout untruths with the skill of a diplomat . This year is not the first year that the Minor manger has travelled to the Minor job from U16 -lower levels . The previous year the Minor Manager travelled all the way from U14/U15 to minor . Barry O C got the gig at U16 level , but took a short break after the U16s played in the Gerry Reilly , and wasn't with the U17 for most of the year , he then and came back in for Minor level . So if your going to spout details ensure they are correct . Also go and read thru the thread before you make statements which are totally untrue as you well know... follow the link , Tyrone beat Cavan well at U16 level this year, however Meath beat Tyrone 4 from 4 in Garvahey last year . Facts are facts . And as anyone who knows about football in Meath , this current crop of Meath Footballers are possibly the best group of footballers to have been assembled at this age level for a number of years . And nobody wishes that they don't progress to achieve their potential . But as all good coaches know its the interventions in that development time frame that impacts upon the achievement of that potiential . http://www.hoganstand.com/Meath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243407 Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 23/07/2016 15:46:58 1888544 Link
Ah csistleain or Meath tru or whatever u go by continue paddling your own canoe but for you long before the white water was in sight your paddle is lost and your boat holed and letting in water...... pope Gregory said he who puts himself on a pedestal of his own making usually falls down. In the famous film starring Gregory peck when peck had pseudo name "pecker" he quoted " I have read all the books and did all the courses I still cant figure out why no one listens to me. Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 23/07/2016 16:53:46 1888564 Link