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Are our Development teams working.

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for reference see link, this is a link to the official GAA website , discussing mandatory coaching standards

https://www.gaa.ie/coaching-and-games-development/news/1101142013-mandatory-coaching-standards-for-2016-announced-at-liberty-insurance-gaa-games-development-conference/

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 09/09/2015 12:03:22    1785059

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I'm pretty sure that you have to have at least level 1 coaching,I can find out for sure though.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/09/2015 13:40:49    1785141

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Meathgaahead

Have you ever gone to an underage game? B

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/09/2015 13:42:04    1785143

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Meathgaahead

Have you ever gone to an underage game? Be it U14's U15's or whatever? If not I recommend it.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/09/2015 13:42:57    1785144

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Certainly have and I know of a couple of the lads coaching with the Meath U14s. Very good coaches with clubs and doing well with the Development squad but don't know what qualifications they have? Wouldn't know anything really about the U15 or 16s.

MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 09/09/2015 16:08:07    1785261

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Meathgaa

Ya they are coached very well,I have been impressed by the work done..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/09/2015 20:02:29    1785377

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Development teams .

I don't see too much attention on the Gerry Reilly Tournament since Cavan beat the boys at the weekend . Speaking with a number of dads of palyers on the 35 panel , they're not very happy how things were handled on the line , natural MF put into the half forward lines , and not utilised whenthey were in trouble in the match . The Playing positions of the starting 15. was called into question . I was informed that this group of players played the exact same Cavan panel last year in Virginia and Cavan weren't able to keep the ball kicked out to them .
So what has changed in 8 months .... The Management team it appears , as well as the playing positions that the current side line crew are trying to develop . last years Management team who had been in charge of these guys since U13 were dropped / shafted by the powers that be and a management team of 1 plus 1 selector was dropped in to try to pacify things . It looks now that we will be waiting another year before the Gerry Reilly Cup can make its way home to Meath .
And that in no way is a slight on the players , but a statement of fact in relation to the illogical approach this year about ratifying last years Management team .
If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot eg "re-appointing MOD , breaking up a winning team ,the Meath U15/16 team of 2015 " why then do we expect to achieve anything . The common denominator in this was the County Board and the so called steering committee .
But then again these groups only have the power because the clubs allow them .
It looks like another dismal year in Meath GAA circles .....
I've just been informed that last August , The Meath U15 Squad beat Cavan "A" 6-09 to 1.08 in Virginia . And the Meath Green squad beat them Cavan "B" by a bigger score it appears , that may have to be verified by asking some people that were at these games .All I can add is How can so much change in a matter of 8 months ? Have Cavan improved beyond all recognition or has their improvement plus Meaths regression sown the seeds for this debacle......An Mhi Abu

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 19/07/2016 14:42:48    1886352

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Development teams .

I don't see too much attention on the Gerry Reilly Tournament since Cavan beat the boys at the weekend . Speaking with a number of dads of palyers on the 35 panel , they're not very happy how things were handled on the line , natural MF put into the half forward lines , and not utilised whenthey were in trouble in the match . The Playing positions of the starting 15. was called into question . I was informed that this group of players played the exact same Cavan panel last year in Virginia and Cavan weren't able to keep the ball kicked out to them .
So what has changed in 8 months .... The Management team it appears , as well as the playing positions that the current side line crew are trying to develop . last years Management team who had been in charge of these guys since U13 were dropped / shafted by the powers that be and a management team of 1 plus 1 selector was dropped in to try to pacify things . It looks now that we will be waiting another year before the Gerry Reilly Cup can make its way home to Meath .
And that in no way is a slight on the players , but a statement of fact in relation to the illogical approach this year about ratifying last years Management team .
If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot eg "re-appointing MOD , breaking up a winning team ,the Meath U15/16 team of 2015 " why then do we expect to achieve anything . The common denominator in this was the County Board and the so called steering committee .
But then again these groups only have the power because the clubs allow them .
It looks like another dismal year in Meath GAA circles .....
I've just been informed that last August , The Meath U15 Squad beat Cavan "A" 6-09 to 1.08 in Virginia . And the Meath Green squad beat them Cavan "B" by a bigger score it appears , that may have to be verified by asking some people that were at these games .All I can add is How can so much change in a matter of 8 months ? Have Cavan improved beyond all recognition or has their improvement plus Meaths regression sown the seeds for this debacle......An Mhi Abu"
yeah fair points.No doubt the managerial fiasco(which was the county boards doing) has impacted.Players playing out of position etc.I think there is more talent in this Meath bunch.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2016 15:29:58    1886402

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Development teams .

I don't see too much attention on the Gerry Reilly Tournament since Cavan beat the boys at the weekend . Speaking with a number of dads of palyers on the 35 panel , they're not very happy how things were handled on the line , natural MF put into the half forward lines , and not utilised whenthey were in trouble in the match . The Playing positions of the starting 15. was called into question . I was informed that this group of players played the exact same Cavan panel last year in Virginia and Cavan weren't able to keep the ball kicked out to them .
So what has changed in 8 months .... The Management team it appears , as well as the playing positions that the current side line crew are trying to develop . last years Management team who had been in charge of these guys since U13 were dropped / shafted by the powers that be and a management team of 1 plus 1 selector was dropped in to try to pacify things . It looks now that we will be waiting another year before the Gerry Reilly Cup can make its way home to Meath .
And that in no way is a slight on the players , but a statement of fact in relation to the illogical approach this year about ratifying last years Management team .
If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot eg "re-appointing MOD , breaking up a winning team ,the Meath U15/16 team of 2015 " why then do we expect to achieve anything . The common denominator in this was the County Board and the so called steering committee .
But then again these groups only have the power because the clubs allow them .
It looks like another dismal year in Meath GAA circles .....
I've just been informed that last August , The Meath U15 Squad beat Cavan "A" 6-09 to 1.08 in Virginia . And the Meath Green squad beat them Cavan "B" by a bigger score it appears , that may have to be verified by asking some people that were at these games .All I can add is How can so much change in a matter of 8 months ? Have Cavan improved beyond all recognition or has their improvement plus Meaths regression sown the seeds for this debacle......An Mhi Abu"
It's well know caisleain that you were the so called shafted manager so stirring up controversy should not be in your bias agenda

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 19/07/2016 15:50:44    1886418

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Development teams .

I don't see too much attention on the Gerry Reilly Tournament since Cavan beat the boys at the weekend . Speaking with a number of dads of palyers on the 35 panel , they're not very happy how things were handled on the line , natural MF put into the half forward lines , and not utilised whenthey were in trouble in the match . The Playing positions of the starting 15. was called into question . I was informed that this group of players played the exact same Cavan panel last year in Virginia and Cavan weren't able to keep the ball kicked out to them .
So what has changed in 8 months .... The Management team it appears , as well as the playing positions that the current side line crew are trying to develop . last years Management team who had been in charge of these guys since U13 were dropped / shafted by the powers that be and a management team of 1 plus 1 selector was dropped in to try to pacify things . It looks now that we will be waiting another year before the Gerry Reilly Cup can make its way home to Meath .
And that in no way is a slight on the players , but a statement of fact in relation to the illogical approach this year about ratifying last years Management team .
If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot eg "re-appointing MOD , breaking up a winning team ,the Meath U15/16 team of 2015 " why then do we expect to achieve anything . The common denominator in this was the County Board and the so called steering committee .
But then again these groups only have the power because the clubs allow them .
It looks like another dismal year in Meath GAA circles .....
I've just been informed that last August , The Meath U15 Squad beat Cavan "A" 6-09 to 1.08 in Virginia . And the Meath Green squad beat them Cavan "B" by a bigger score it appears , that may have to be verified by asking some people that were at these games .All I can add is How can so much change in a matter of 8 months ? Have Cavan improved beyond all recognition or has their improvement plus Meaths regression sown the seeds for this debacle......An Mhi Abu"
It's well know caisleain that you were the so called shafted manager so stirring up controversy should not be in your bias agenda

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 19/07/2016 15:50:56    1886419

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Brownepat , I don't think that Chaisleain, is stirring . I think that there is a valid point .
I was at the said games , and I know exactly what he is saying . last year the Meath U15s walked all over the Cavan U15s. The exact same squad that basically put us out of the Gerry Reilly Cup final on Sunday .
The players are exactly the same indeed the only newbie I noted was Barry O Connell from Walterstown , The son of Martin O Connell of Meaths glory era fame, who alsom is a selector this year . If the previous Management team didn't deserve a continuation then how come then that all the players that they developed over their 2-3 years are still on the panel. Apart from Barry O, C. of course ?

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2016 17:03:56    1886495

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Brownepat , I have railed in as support for Chaisleain , And before you start jumping to conclusions , my god son plays on the panel, and he gets regular games ( so I have no axe to grind) . But I unlike you have been monitoring his progress over the years so I know what I'm talking about , I've been to these games . Maybe you need to get out and watch the young guns playing before you try to start changing the thread of the forum, to detract from the previous factual statement ... In truth , if the side line crew knew their players , Cavan would not have won ...... Tinkering with a winning formula always leads to inconsistencies , and like any facet in Football , to be successful you need to be consistent . And our game against Cavan proved that . And proved the point that changing the Management team was wrong . Especially when you step back in the fashion that we appear to have .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2016 17:33:59    1886524

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Replying To Meath_True:  "Brownepat , I have railed in as support for Chaisleain , And before you start jumping to conclusions , my god son plays on the panel, and he gets regular games ( so I have no axe to grind) . But I unlike you have been monitoring his progress over the years so I know what I'm talking about , I've been to these games . Maybe you need to get out and watch the young guns playing before you try to start changing the thread of the forum, to detract from the previous factual statement ... In truth , if the side line crew knew their players , Cavan would not have won ...... Tinkering with a winning formula always leads to inconsistencies , and like any facet in Football , to be successful you need to be consistent . And our game against Cavan proved that . And proved the point that changing the Management team was wrong . Especially when you step back in the fashion that we appear to have ."
Again the county board to blame.. Have the U16's anymore games this year?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2016 17:41:23    1886530

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Also I have a wee cousin on the Under 15's and management(who are doing a great job) are concerned that they won't be there next year..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2016 17:42:42    1886531

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I do think we have very good coaches in Meath, but I also feel that people need to realise that being a good ex player mightn't necessarily make you a good coach, and that having coaching awards just mightn't make you one either. Funds definitely need to be put in and the county board will have to work very hard in order to secure a better sponsorship deal. We need to 'breed' proud Meath players, especially in rural areas that have been inhabited by dubs. We need to give these young kids a sense of pride of being from or living most of their lives in Meath. Maybe more should be done at primary school level to ensure this? The talent is clearly there, it's just a question of harnessing this talent. Our 14s and 15s are very good and I'm excited to see what they'll become,I'd say our 16s are also quite good, for anyone who saw the game against Cavan the other day it's fair to say they weren't at their best at all and we're still unlucky. Hopefully they'll learn from it. Unfortunately I know their ship was rocked a bit this year, we need to ensure that each team has a smooth ride and some stability the whole way through the system. More needs to be done definitley from minor to 21s, no question about it. Also with the new minor rule coming in, has anyone heard weather there will be a once off championship for the current group born in 2000? I know they were talking about it but haven't heard anything since

BagglesMc (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 19/07/2016 17:48:31    1886534

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Still the ex manager should not be grinding axes here. Me thinks that Caistleain and Meath_tru are one and the same so greg dont be rallying support for yourself by yourself

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 19/07/2016 17:57:08    1886539

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I was at the game it was a typical underage match with one team on top and then the other. Meath defence looked a little open at times and the team rallied well and were a little unlucky not to get something out of the game. The results in Virginia last year have no bareing on this year with a number of Cavan's players missing last year. Cavan hammered recently by Tyrone but again nothing should be read into this a its just U16 and lots of trying out lads, moving them about , bringing lads in etc going on

noelpconnon (Cavan) - Posts: 209 - 19/07/2016 18:03:29    1886549

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My brothers young lad is with the U16s says the new boys are a breath of fresh air and delighted with how they are progressing He is enjoying it no end and looking forward to the next game

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 19/07/2016 18:08:41    1886551

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "My brothers young lad is with the U16s says the new boys are a breath of fresh air and delighted with how they are progressing He is enjoying it no end and looking forward to the next game"
Any idea who they play next?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2016 19:13:27    1886592

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Development teams .

I don't see too much attention on the Gerry Reilly Tournament since Cavan beat the boys at the weekend . Speaking with a number of dads of palyers on the 35 panel , they're not very happy how things were handled on the line , natural MF put into the half forward lines , and not utilised whenthey were in trouble in the match . The Playing positions of the starting 15. was called into question . I was informed that this group of players played the exact same Cavan panel last year in Virginia and Cavan weren't able to keep the ball kicked out to them .
So what has changed in 8 months .... The Management team it appears , as well as the playing positions that the current side line crew are trying to develop . last years Management team who had been in charge of these guys since U13 were dropped / shafted by the powers that be and a management team of 1 plus 1 selector was dropped in to try to pacify things . It looks now that we will be waiting another year before the Gerry Reilly Cup can make its way home to Meath .
And that in no way is a slight on the players , but a statement of fact in relation to the illogical approach this year about ratifying last years Management team .
If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot eg "re-appointing MOD , breaking up a winning team ,the Meath U15/16 team of 2015 " why then do we expect to achieve anything . The common denominator in this was the County Board and the so called steering committee .
But then again these groups only have the power because the clubs allow them .
It looks like another dismal year in Meath GAA circles .....
I've just been informed that last August , The Meath U15 Squad beat Cavan "A" 6-09 to 1.08 in Virginia . And the Meath Green squad beat them Cavan "B" by a bigger score it appears , that may have to be verified by asking some people that were at these games .All I can add is How can so much change in a matter of 8 months ? Have Cavan improved beyond all recognition or has their improvement plus Meaths regression sown the seeds for this debacle......An Mhi Abu"
G, we are all sick of listening and reading your waffle. The management has changed. Buy yourself a long ladder to get over it.
Yours truly, the rest of the county.

Tones (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 19/07/2016 22:05:56    1886699

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