royalballer23
County: Meath
Posts: 16

i suppose your goin to start saying theres to many ratoath lads on team???

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 11/08/2015 21:31:26    1768418

Royalballer23 - the under 16s had 2 teams involved in the Gerry Reilly tournament. Surely they tried out loads of players during this. Who did they miss?

Tones (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 12/08/2015 09:15:05    1768462

There is always likely to be disparity between the representation on Dev squads of large urban club which have 2 or 3 teams in an age group and a rural club which is struggling to field a team in an age group and in most cases using lads 1 or 2 or maybe even 3 years off the age to fill the corners.

MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 12/08/2015 11:34:35    1768649

No I believe the ratoath lads are good enough that are on it but honestly this will be a completely different team for minor! I was just saying I have gone to a lot of u16 games and I was just a bit surprised with the panel.

royalballer23 (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 13/08/2015 10:38:10    1769280

U16 ballers had a good weekend getting to the final in Dunganny.
U14s also went very well at weekend in Louth.
Didn't see anything about U15s yet.

MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 17/08/2015 10:50:27    1771256

The Meath Green Squad won their Tournament emphatically , by beating a strong Dublin and Roscommon teams enroute to a final meeting with Westmeath , who had beating Tyrone and Westmeath in their group . The FIG ( Future is green)

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 17/08/2015 11:45:30    1771301

A development squad gets a win and suddenly everyone thinks the future is bright in meath that these development squads will minor titles and senior all Ireland's . I'd love to see how many players on these development squads make minor. I think they're nonsense to be honest. The structure is all wrong with these development squads holding a three week trial and some lads don'tevseven get called back. Just do what every other county does and watch these players in club duty so we can get the right development squads instead of holding nonsense trials where a good player can have an off day!

royalballer23 (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 17/08/2015 12:19:26    1771330

Royallballer , you appear to be contradicting yourself . I think everyone agrees that 1 day trials are not the way to go . And that doors should not be closed due to a bad day . Its about development , and that's what it should be about . Not about whose the best at 14-15-16 years of age , but about who could be the best at Minor or Senior level . Sometimes you need to look at what the young lads can be and not what they are. Many's an All Ireland Medallist never played on a Inter-county team ( at any level) before they got their break at Senior level. I'm sure that the coaches see plenty of the club matches and know whose performing . However there's also the flip side . Many good Club performers don't cut the mustard at inter county level and that goes at all levels. After so much negativity about our teams performance over the last number of years , its nice to look on the bright side and see some positivity in the development squads . Nobody said that they will be winning Leisters and All Ireland , but isn't it nice to dream . You got to remember , our current Senior team is not a reflection on the current Development set-up , but on what has gone before . Improvements are required everywhere , if we are to compete with the big boys in the future.

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/08/2015 12:28:54    1771960

I would expect that a clear report on ALL development matters will be included in upcoming report from steering group. I assume that will include the need to bring our newly re elected manager of senior team up to speed to meets the needs of the job. I would not expect to hear too much about about specifics in public. I would expect that MOD will have his own shopping list to begin with anyway. Otherwise we will have to accept continued deterioration of football in Meath for the future.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 18/08/2015 12:51:52    1771981

Wrong thread Nobull , I don't agree with MOD threads crosslinking with Development threads , because he does nothing to encourage any of the Dev squads ,and has had no input in his previous 3 years other than to stunt the growth of last years U21 footballers by restricting players from playing in their own age group , all throughout the league , his mentality appears to be that focus should only be on the Senior squad with neglect ion the lot for the Junior and U21 squads. Core U21 players were prevented from playing and training with their respective panels so that they could sit on the bench throughout the league ... Where's the development in that ........ At the back of it all , the Clubs need to take a good inward look , as they failed in their duty to speak up on the 10th . remember , in a democracy , you can only be bullied if you allow it....

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/08/2015 13:30:05    1772028

as to the steering committee , maybe some of them will turn up to some the of the Dev Squad sessions some time ?. How can you do a report on something you know absolutely nothing about. Bluff that's how ...

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/08/2015 13:31:49    1772031

Well then i think we have to use the word development and MOD in the same breath....Yes maybe a new thread. My point is to continue with MOD without his development needs being attended to is to accept more of the same, and hope for a different outcome....now that is madness!!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1227 - 18/08/2015 15:58:12    1772120

Chaislean_abu: why is it that very few of the players that make development squads make senior or sometimes even minor? Surely there is something wrong ?

royalballer23 (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 18/08/2015 16:56:06    1772154

Chaislean Abu

Spot on,you beat me to the punch in your replay to royalballer..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 18/08/2015 17:21:08    1772165

A Co. Minor or Senior squad is something like 30 players. The last list I saw for the U15 Development squad had over 60 names, 60 into 30 simply doesn't go but if you Develop 60 players when they're are U14, U15 or U16 you have a greater chance of having a strong group when they reach minor or U21.
Every club sees players drop out between minor and senior level and county is no different. Player drop off occurs for a large number of reasons, a big U15 may be an average or small size minor, they choose other sports, career or university, immigration, injury, family life, lack of commitment and on it goes.
The U14s and U15s trials this year seemed to go on for over a month rather than the old style 1 day trial which would help with the off-day syndrome and a couple of good lads probably still didn't get picked and a couple of weak lads probably made it onto a team. Didn't see anything on the U16s or U17s but there management would know the players well having already worked with those lads for a few years since U14 by the time they reach U16 or U17 or minor so they'll understand what they have.

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 19/08/2015 09:54:38    1772292

People have to understand thats it not easy picking U14 and U15 teams.Which is why they have about 60 players.A lot of counties are doing this now to be fair.Players were given a lot of opportunities in the trials.So if you have a bad day you will have a chance.Plus if you don't make it on,its hardly the end of the road,there will be opportunities later down the line.I will say this,I have watched the U14's this year and they are very well coached(something I often wasn't happy about),their attitude for young kids is superb,they play as a team,no selfish lads on it,they move very well off the ball and track back etc.Not an easy thing to get right with young kids.

I think Caislean has seen the U15's,I wonder if they are similar?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/08/2015 10:07:49    1772306

I'm not saying everything is perfect at underage,but there are improvements for sure. We do need to develop strong minor sides and concentrate a bit more on U21,because winning at those levels or competing well,will give young players confidence as they move on.With the work been done with the younger kids,hopefully we will see improvements in the next few years.I know the U16's struggled in the Gerry Reilly,but they brought two teams whereas the played the best of Dublin,Cavan etc. But as said above by the new poster(welcome) ,players drop out due to a million reasons,so thats why its important to develop a lot of players and not ignore what may have fell through the net earlier.But in general if a good player comes along,he will make it,Eamonn Wallace didn't play on any of the underage sides until U21,may have played briefly for the minors.But important that we give thse kids the best so we try and keep as many as we can in the game.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/08/2015 10:14:19    1772310

hi ziggy . as i have a nephew on the yellow team i went over to Offaly last saturday to watch them play as there game was not untill 12 i went to see the green team play at 110clock i left with 15 mins to go in the second half and went back to Eddenderry to watch the yellows . Meath played Dublin first and played some great football in the first half but died away with about 15 mins to go and got beat by 5pts .Meath then played Loise in the second game and won by 2pts Just to say all the Dublin players and mentors had food with them and the Meath players did not even get a roll . and some people are wondering why the want to go to other sports the mentors are doing a great job with the players but there hands are tied . what i would like to know is where is s.boylan c.orourke g mctee and s.kenny they have not been to one Blitz this year all the Co Board talk about Money and lights for Navan the way things are going ther will be no need for lights .

Rathcairn (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 20/08/2015 11:36:22    1773059

Rathcairn

Ya I haven't seen anyone like that at any of the games either.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/08/2015 13:43:21    1773210

If we want to keep these lads interested they must be looked after correctly. Not suggesting a 3 course meal but can't believe CB don't give the players something to eat after games. Don't think it's too much to ask for a bit of food & a drink after training and games! Would you want to be part of an organisation that shows this level of disrespect to its future. They do get training gear?

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 20/08/2015 14:45:49    1773273