The only thing I want to hear from this cosy chat is that micko and his backroom team have departed.
So we can get a new real team in place. Anything else is condemning meath to more failure.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 03/09/2014 21:00:49    1647706

foreverroayl....What are your recommendations for a new management team?? Can someone else do any better? A lot of injuries and a bad game plan against Dublin was what happened this year. We couldn't fully lift ourselves for Armagh and we exited the Championship. Another Change in Management would be a disaster for the County.

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 04/09/2014 10:40:52    1647817

Before the Armagh game a stated No matter what we weren't to change Mick .
We then would have to go back two more years , no thanks . Let him finish his agreed term of 3 years , next year crucial . I feel that we could of been given something from the co b meeting than closed doors.

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 04/09/2014 11:23:19    1647837

foreverroyal

Once again you seem to have a strong dislike for MOD for some reason and single him out for special criticism, so here's his 2 season competitive record compared to O'Brien's and Banty's 2 season record:

O'Brien = won 18 out of 33 (54.5%)
Banty = won 10 out of 28 (36%)
MOD = won 19 out of 29 (65.5%)

Now I accept that MOD didn't do a great job this year, but to be fair to him he was badly hindered by injuries and also the above stats don't lend much weight to your irrational, scathing criticism of MOD or the fanciful notion that yet another new manager is the answer to all our problems.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/09/2014 11:41:01    1647842

Yeah Micko deserves at least another year.Next season is indeed crucial

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 04/09/2014 11:44:03    1647844

Htaem

that's a great stat to keep the nay-sayers quiet!
He will get another year (I hope) ... but he is fortunate that there is nobody like a McGeeney or a Kevin Walsh waiting in the long grass.

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 04/09/2014 16:53:43    1648029

I would love to see Colm O'Rourke get it one day.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 04/09/2014 17:43:06    1648055

Admin why was my previus post not put up ?
No disrespect to you htaem but you know what they say about stats.
Can you put up the stats of all 3 managers in championship and league only ? Excluding obyrne cup where micko has been a great success , not as successful as kildare but certainly 2nd best team lately.
Cause if you do you might be surprised to find tha all 3 past managers have quite similar stats. Just saying.
Micks term has been a disaster imo. Anyone and I do mean anyone would have at least got same results. We wait another year and all we will get is the same as this year. We have become soft , we are happy with mediocrity. I am not happy and ultimately the book dtops with management or lack of it as has been the case lately.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 04/09/2014 18:55:50    1648097

foreverroyal

We were soft long before O'Dowd came in..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 04/09/2014 20:33:10    1648141

foreverroyal

I know stats can be misleading but MOD's stats show that he clearly hasn't been a "disaster", he hasn't been anything special, it's pretty much been more of the same for us under MOD which is disappointing but he doesn't deserve special criticism and in anycase what would you expect our current players to achieve if someone else was in charge?

Let O'Dowd have his final year in charge next year, if we make real progress then keep him, if we make little or no progress then yes, it's time for him to go but hiring and firing managers every other year has failed us for nearly 10 years now, do you really want to continue with that policy?

As for being soft, I agree with ziggy, we've been soft for many years before MOD came in, nothing to do with him whatsoever.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/09/2014 20:53:03    1648161

Forever would it not just be better to change the backroom team? Bring in gg who by all accounts has done wonders at duleek/ bellewstown and the man you speak so highly of Andy mcentee? And I think we all are agreed a new trainer is a must for next year. And then we have people with proven track records to build and also contrasting styles. Now I'm not saying these people specifically just using a example.
I'll agree with you on one thing that if we have the exact same management team and trainer next year I wouldn't be overly hopeful
I think the Donegal game showed us (me in particular) that dubs are not unbeatable and we do have to change mindset, some myself included were taking some comfort that every other county couldn't handle them, Jim MCG proved us all wrong. We must believe and management must instill that belief.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/09/2014 14:06:13    1648418

MOD needs to make a statement about 2 weeks after the All-ireland that he has changed his backroom team, MOD needs to remove Trevor Giles and the fitness coach.
Some of the things happening this year would not happen if Meath were a serious outfit.
Examples:
Players making panel even though not fit to play club football.
Players making big statements to the media even though now fit to play next match.
Coaching staff putting up pictures of the team training, match days, etc on social media.
Captain who in the big games is injured or comes off injured.


All this tells me MOD has no control, this would not happen under any top class manager.
Seeing now that Tony McEntee is mad for county management he would be ideal for Meath. Cross play a simailar style to the good Meath teams, no complaining, no whinging, win your own ball, hard to beat, long fast ball into forwards, heads up football etc..

MOD is confussed on the style and he players are clearly coached to put the head down, hand pass it to nearest man
Armagh clearly showed us this year that it only takes a few months with the right person in charge to drastically improve.

Tony McEntee along with GG,Seamus Kenny & get a sports sciencetists in

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 05/09/2014 15:05:11    1648453

foreveroyal, think you are watching the premiership a little too much. Hiring and firing mangers like theres no tomorrow....

90% of fans can see that stability is needed, and whats more I have never heard any murmurings of discontent within the dressing room, so why axe him? after all im pretty sure the players would know more about football than us sad cases who just write about it on forums when we're bored....

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 05/09/2014 15:08:34    1648456

haha northmeathman

kevin reilly gets injured and you see it as a sign that MOD has lost control. HAHAHA

dubsout (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 05/09/2014 15:37:44    1648469

Nortmeathman

Is Colm Brady not the fitness coach?

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 05/09/2014 15:42:32    1648472

Tony McEntee to be honest would be a great choice for Meath football,provided that he has the right men around him,unfortunately for Mod he does not have the right men around him..definitely not fitness coach anyway!

Yet Mod got the meath job because the meath county board thought he had the right men around him..they were the best brains in meath so we were told,Sean kelly is a great attack minded coach,but as defence Coaching???...also the overuse of Steven bray as the spear head of attack, there is only so much the chap can do!

I think last year the element of surprise made us look good ...this year we tried the same thing and got spanked!

Ok people might point out we had a good few injuries this year and this is the reason why it went horribly wrong.I believe it went horribly wrong because of a lack of defensive system and defenders not coached correctly on how to tackle!

If Mod stays on with the same backroom team ,it will be "wash rinse repeat" next year!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 05/09/2014 19:02:42    1648577

MOD needs to make a statement about 2 weeks after the All-ireland that he has changed his backroom team, MOD needs to remove Trevor Giles and the fitness coach.
Some of the things happening this year would not happen if Meath were a serious outfit.
Examples:
Players making panel even though not fit to play club football.
Players making big statements to the media even though now fit to play next match.
Coaching staff putting up pictures of the team training, match days, etc on social media.
Captain who in the big games is injured or comes off injured.


All this tells me MOD has no control, this would not happen under any top class manager.
Seeing now that Tony McEntee is mad for county management he would be ideal for Meath. Cross play a simailar style to the good Meath teams, no complaining, no whinging, win your own ball, hard to beat, long fast ball into forwards, heads up football etc..

MOD is confussed on the style and he players are clearly coached to put the head down, hand pass it to nearest man
Armagh clearly showed us this year that it only takes a few months with the right person in charge to drastically improve.

Tony McEntee along with GG,Seamus Kenny & get a sports sciencetists in

Quite possibly the biggest load of nonsense I have ever seen produced on these pages......

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/09/2014 20:29:14    1648606

MOD needs to make a statement about 2 weeks after the All-ireland that he has changed his backroom team, MOD needs to remove Trevor Giles and the fitness coach.
Some of the things happening this year would not happen if Meath were a serious outfit.
Examples:
Players making panel even though not fit to play club football.
Players making big statements to the media even though now fit to play next match.
Coaching staff putting up pictures of the team training, match days, etc on social media.
Captain who in the big games is injured or comes off injured.


All this tells me MOD has no control, this would not happen under any top class manager.
Seeing now that Tony McEntee is mad for county management he would be ideal for Meath. Cross play a simailar style to the good Meath teams, no complaining, no whinging, win your own ball, hard to beat, long fast ball into forwards, heads up football etc..

MOD is confussed on the style and he players are clearly coached to put the head down, hand pass it to nearest man
Armagh clearly showed us this year that it only takes a few months with the right person in charge to drastically improve.

Tony McEntee along with GG,Seamus Kenny & get a sports sciencetists in

Quite possibly the biggest load of nonsense I have ever seen produced on these pages......

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/09/2014 20:40:24    1648612

Richieq, a load of nonsense is copying and pasting the same thing twice.. but hey u put forward an excellent argument.

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 08/09/2014 17:42:06    1649756

The gremlins are out in force this week.

Next year is crucial. We've never been in a better position to qualify for Division 1. Galway will have to adapt to a new manager although they have excellent players. Kildare will be our biggest rivals for top spot but we're well able win the league outright.

We've played some good stuff under O'Dowd but it's always been in patches. Next year is the acid test.

HighKing81 (Meath) - Posts: 129 - 08/09/2014 19:25:26    1649813