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I'm still not sure what the gameplan was for the Dublin game..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 26/07/2014 17:10:24    1626178

A lot of the posts here are spot on. Our tactics were brutal for the Dublin game and we tried to be too clever. Dublin fooled us a bit and it was like we did not expect it. Disappointing. We need to focus on football and the rest will follow. Armagh will be a tough test.

Meathmen (Meath) - Posts: 73 - 26/07/2014 18:40:13    1626215

Even if beaten do not think MOD will be gotten rid of, will be allowed see out his term. If beaten and poor performance he may decide to call it a day. But I think we will scrape home by a point or two, our experience of Croke Park may be the difference.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 26/07/2014 19:39:01    1626238

have lost all faith in mod after dublin and monaghan games donegal wer beatin by everyone for years jimmy mc comes in with a clear plan and focused all players in one direction and stuck with same players in same postions now donegal have better players than we have but they play like men on a mission could you say that about meath ,the good managers come up with a way of playing that suites the players he has and gets d best out of them ,we may beat armagh i dont see anything to be sure about that we beat kildare but they wer very poor no point in stickin with someone for sake of it get rid and move on ,other than the names of players what are meath doing right ,we justabout stayed in div 2 this year and monaghan beat us out the gate down d road and around d corner

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 26/07/2014 20:55:46    1626305

seadog

I think he beleives in what he is doing,I would be stunned if he resigned..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 26/07/2014 20:56:52    1626306

seadog54
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Even if beaten do not think MOD will be gotten rid of,

Meath will not get rid of Mick O'Dowd what ever happens next weekend, nor should they. Meath were never going to beat the Dubs this year, when you compare individuals available on the Meath team/panel to the Dubs fitness and power levels then we were never going to be at the races. When you compare the fitness/Stimina levels of the likes of Burke, Harrington, Kenny, Meade, Bray, two Reillys etc. to name but a few over the last few years and compare that to the Dubs then you can see an immediate gulf. Not complaining about these players in any way as they have given their all for Meath in the past, however, the team was not set up correctly last weekend.

Looking back on the video we had a lot of position last weekend and fared OK around the middle in the first half when the game was alive. Some smart kickouts by Paddy O Rourke and we had our chances up front, however, we didnt take them and I was very disappointed with the lack of pressure on the Dublin kick-outs and on tracking back even after 20 mins. This is a worrying point as after 20 minutes, it has nothing to do with fitness levels and a lot to do with attitude.

The Armagh game will be a defining moment of Mick O Dowds reign as Meath manager, he needs this win to keep the show on the road, and keep things progressing. Another heavy defeat and the knives will be out for him which will give him less time and good will for the rebuilding process to take place.

NAIL_BAR (Meath) - Posts: 457 - 26/07/2014 21:10:24    1626313

You have to wonder at the people saying Mick O'Dowd should go if he loses. Have they learned nothing from the last few years? Since Boylan left the average managers term has been less than 2 years. Sacking managers if they dont bring instant success may be the most suicidal organising possible. That said, Eamon O'Brien did bring instant success and was still sacked.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1648 - 27/07/2014 14:27:37    1626474

Nonsense talking about MOD position after the result.

Focus on the game.

I personally believe Meath are average and looking at the facts - Meath have only beaten Carlow, Wicklow, Kildare and Wexford in the last two years of championship.
They have not progressed past that. And although I really want Meath to win next weekend I just cant see it because of Meaths appalling rwcord against Ulster teams

Its just delying an inevitable result

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 27/07/2014 15:19:16    1626507

I think there is a air of inevitability about what's going to happen if we get beat on Saturday , in my opinion mod will leave of his own accord. .many have said we actually haven't improved since banty except getting promoted narrowly out of div 3. The looses to Dublin have gotten bigger and our claim to fame is beating Kildare who themselves are in decline.
However we must realize that mod is a very inexperienced manager. Now when I said in beginin that we should have had one experience voice on sideline along with Kelly many on here said that was out of question as we had plenty. Dublin last week had 3 selectors not doing too bad for them.
Look he should be given the 3 years regardless of what happens in this match, but he also must hold his hands up and say yeah I got many things wrong not reading games in real time, not making sub until game gone (monaghan ×3) making wrong sub's then, switching players and position.
IMO he must do this regardless win loose or draw and maybe shake up backroom team or bring a experience voice in. I'd rather see this than another manager hunt. But let's hope we get the result on Saturday.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/07/2014 16:25:41    1626574

I think micko position is untenable regardless of outcome.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 27/07/2014 17:46:34    1626647

Are you 2 guys for real. Rome wasn't built in a day. He can
Only use what he has and in my opinion he's doing a fair job.
His three year term is up next year so next year is the year
to judge him.

Who would you guys be putting forward for the next meath manager.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 27/07/2014 17:51:46    1626651

Foreverdunne, I'm not trying to sound smart but there is no way Mick O'Dowd will be sacked or will resign no matter the outcome of the Armagh game. This should not even be up for discussion.

Best of luck to the team against Armagh. I don't like to see this talk of sacking the manager before Meath even play the game! Really goes to show the agenda some of the supporters have!

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 27/07/2014 17:55:25    1626656

He should resign if they lose

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 27/07/2014 18:12:05    1626673

There's an overwhelming stench of ***** coming from this page in the past day or so. Sack another manager. Clear to see we learn as we go from our past experiences.....

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 27/07/2014 18:49:17    1626709

I'd put forward andy mcentee best man for job knows most of these guys from minor.
But some on here want us to continue on same path what next year relegation? Getting beat by westmeath or wexford? Why put off the inevitable. Like taking off a plaster rip it off quickly.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 27/07/2014 19:24:44    1626747

Its disgraceful how so many people are calling for MOD to resign if we lose on Saturday. The problem with this county is that we're too caught up in the present and never look to the future. While it can be debated whether the current team is much better than Banty's team, you cant deny that MOD has gotten rid of the older generation (Farrell, Sheridan, Ward) and replace it with the exuberant young players (2 wallaces, Newman, mcmahon, mcdonagh etc) who have the potential to improve. Look back 2 years ago and bantys big move was to bring back Geraghty which, in reality was a nothing move.
At least give MOD and his young squad time to prosper and develop and don't rush to judgment after one bad result against Dublin, who unfortunately are far superior to any other team in the country.
If we sack MOD now we are right back to square one in terms of new game plan, different players. We can only start to judge him after next year imo

nmsmithy96 (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 27/07/2014 20:20:36    1626801

Some of the players are the problem, not so much the management (although they like all of us, make mistakes from time to time). Does anybody think the Dublin or Donegal management teams would do any or much better with what we have got (players - their abilities and attitudes and the resources within the county) - because I don't. They can only work with what is out there and any new players they bring in, need time. It is a medium to longer term investment if you like, before things start to show results.

It is well known and in all codes of football that the only way for good players to reach their full potential is to play against the best/at the highest level on a regular basis. Not all the younger up and coming, inexperienced players can look the part NOW, but give it some time and things can change. They need experience and the only way to get it is to be thrown in at the deep end.

Until Meath are back in division one of the league we simply cannot expect to compete with the best teams in the championship on a consistent basis ... just our usual one big performance per season, if we can even manage that.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 27/07/2014 21:53:38    1626925

Can anyone please point out where I said mod should resign?
Lot of people jumping to conclusion without ANY evidence. Let me make this very clear
Regardless of result on sat I think mod should remain as manager. So is that clear enough for all???
What I did say is regardless of result the backroom team needs to be shaken up. Not even get rid of anyone just bring someone new in to change things around, new ideas and thinking. That is all and that should happen if we either win or get beat v armagh.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/07/2014 08:58:40    1626957

RD, you said that if Meath lose, he would probably call it a day. Then go on about his mistakes and the lack of enough experience in the management team. All negative remarks. At this particular time (ahead of another big game and not an end of season review) ... bad form.

But then before the Kildare game you wanted our best forward to play the last twenty minutes as an impact sub and not the first fifty. How would that have turned out for you.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 28/07/2014 10:05:08    1626995

Rd

Don't think they are on about you, a few posts after yours suggesting.he should go tho, even a replacement put forward.

Madness really, we need stability and continuity not the constant chopping and changing. Imagine facing into 2015 starting all over again.... No thanks.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 28/07/2014 10:08:57    1626999