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Replying To Northsidegaels: "Think there was none on the team for a league game and someone set up a thread on here about it, Sean tobin and Brian conlon ended up playing regularly from simonstown aswell as Alan forde and ruairi o coileann from o mahonys, add to that the fact Nash, o rourke and mckeever couldn't play from the champions then the thread was probably a bit over the top, however I wouldn't disregard altogether the claims on here of too many south meath players on the panel when they continuously fail to perform against the big teams in the club championship" Meath is Meath, doesn't matter what part a player is from.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/10/2017 13:41:29 2053727 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Meath is Meath, doesn't matter what part a player is from.." True enough Ziggy. That's the problem with Louth football. Wee have Dundalk (North Louth) v Drogheda (South Louth). If the powers to be would have the chance they would split up the county and use the the river Glyde as the border between North and South Louth. When you look at the great Wee County team of 1957 most of the players came from Ardee and the Mid-Louth area. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 07/10/2017 17:33:49 2053760 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Meath is Meath, doesn't matter what part a player is from.." Well said ziggy. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/10/2017 08:54:40 2053820 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Meath is Meath, doesn't matter what part a player is from.." Lazy comment, read the conversation back a bit maybe. Couldn't care less where players are from I even suggested that particular thread was over the top but sure don't let that get in the way of a good argument!! Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 08/10/2017 13:52:30 2053854 Link
Replying To Northsidegaels: "Lazy comment, read the conversation back a bit maybe. Couldn't care less where players are from I even suggested that particular thread was over the top but sure don't let that get in the way of a good argument!!" You say you don't care where people are from, and yet you keep banging on about it. It's not a good argument. It's a stupid pointless argument. Give it a rest. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 08/10/2017 16:33:32 2053878 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "True enough Ziggy. That's the problem with Louth football. Wee have Dundalk (North Louth) v Drogheda (South Louth). If the powers to be would have the chance they would split up the county and use the the river Glyde as the border between North and South Louth. When you look at the great Wee County team of 1957 most of the players came from Ardee and the Mid-Louth area." Even in Dublin you don't hear them speak in these terms ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 08:14:12 2053987 Link
Replying To Northsidegaels: "Lazy comment, read the conversation back a bit maybe. Couldn't care less where players are from I even suggested that particular thread was over the top but sure don't let that get in the way of a good argument!!" Fair point on your part,but we see a lot of comment/moaning about so called South Meath players etc like it is an insult or something. Needs to stop.. When Brendan Reilly scored that fantastic winning point against Mayo he wore a Meath jersey. Unity is key. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 08:18:01 2053988 Link
Replying To Northsidegaels: "Lazy comment, read the conversation back a bit maybe. Couldn't care less where players are from I even suggested that particular thread was over the top but sure don't let that get in the way of a good argument!!" Just read your post again. You make fair comments as to why we didn't have more simonstown players on the county panel. As at least 2 that are good enough simply are not available.However your last line you suggest that there are too many players from a certain part of Meath on the panel.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 08:21:47 2053989 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Even in Dublin you don't hear them speak in these terms" Have you not heard all the talk by pundits, former players and current players for Dublin recently talking about splitting Dublin to give every other team in Ireland a chance? What way exactly do you think they will split it if it ever happens? Your obviously someone from a South Meath club fighting your corner there which is understandable... bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 09/10/2017 09:30:13 2054003 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "Even in Dublin you don't hear them speak in these terms" Ziggy I am a Drogheda man for my sins but more importantly I am a proud Louth man. Clubs may divide a county but your county unites all clubs no matter what part of the county you are from. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 09/10/2017 12:17:02 2054076 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Ziggy I am a Drogheda man for my sins but more importantly I am a proud Louth man. Clubs may divide a county but your county unites all clubs no matter what part of the county you are from." It should Ollie,I agree with you. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 12:53:44 2054093 Link
Replying To bowza123: "Have you not heard all the talk by pundits, former players and current players for Dublin recently talking about splitting Dublin to give every other team in Ireland a chance? What way exactly do you think they will split it if it ever happens? Your obviously someone from a South Meath club fighting your corner there which is understandable..." I am from Meath not South Meath,that term does not exist as far as I am concerned. Regards the Dublin comment, it is Dublin people that don't divide,never mind pundits.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 12:56:11 2054096 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "I am from Meath not South Meath,that term does not exist as far as I am concerned. Regards the Dublin comment, it is Dublin people that don't divide,never mind pundits.." This argument started because a previous poster mentioned that if you split the county into north Meath and south Meath, that the majority of the football championships this year have been practically dominated by north Meath teams (if there was a hypothetical divide). Meath is one team and nobody is disputing that. But what's puzzling is that even with those north Meath teams dominating, there is still only a handful lining out for the county??? Don/Ash not getting out of the group, Ratoath and Dunboyne beaten in the Quarters... All of whom have the majority of county players. MOD made a balls of his tenure and if Andy has any aspirations of doing anything firstly in Leinster and hopefully further, then in my opinion there is some serious talent north of Navan which would certainly provide him with a bit more heart and aggression than certain members of the squad from last season. I'm sure you will probably have a smarmy answer for what I've just written but from looking at some of your other previous posts, I think it's notable that you are a keyboard warrior. bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 09/10/2017 15:19:26 2054154 Link
Replying To bowza123: "This argument started because a previous poster mentioned that if you split the county into north Meath and south Meath, that the majority of the football championships this year have been practically dominated by north Meath teams (if there was a hypothetical divide). Meath is one team and nobody is disputing that. But what's puzzling is that even with those north Meath teams dominating, there is still only a handful lining out for the county??? Don/Ash not getting out of the group, Ratoath and Dunboyne beaten in the Quarters... All of whom have the majority of county players. MOD made a balls of his tenure and if Andy has any aspirations of doing anything firstly in Leinster and hopefully further, then in my opinion there is some serious talent north of Navan which would certainly provide him with a bit more heart and aggression than certain members of the squad from last season. I'm sure you will probably have a smarmy answer for what I've just written but from looking at some of your other previous posts, I think it's notable that you are a keyboard warrior." Deja vu. Every few months this gem comes up. Posters wax lyrical about the North Meath talent and then go deathly silent when asked to name players that haven't been given chances with the Meath setup before. So please break the trend and give us some examples. If they are good enough, I've no doubt that Andy will give some, if not all of them a chance. And if they improve the team, I'll support them regardless of how their club team(s) happen to do in the championship. And not that it matters one bit, but I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that North Meath teams have dominated the championships. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 09/10/2017 15:45:20 2054166 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Deja vu. Every few months this gem comes up. Posters wax lyrical about the North Meath talent and then go deathly silent when asked to name players that haven't been given chances with the Meath setup before. So please break the trend and give us some examples. If they are good enough, I've no doubt that Andy will give some, if not all of them a chance. And if they improve the team, I'll support them regardless of how their club team(s) happen to do in the championship. And not that it matters one bit, but I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that North Meath teams have dominated the championships." Ah yes but if you dispute that or argue with these guys you are a keyboard warrior.. As you say people never give examples... ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/10/2017 16:19:16 2054182 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Deja vu. Every few months this gem comes up. Posters wax lyrical about the North Meath talent and then go deathly silent when asked to name players that haven't been given chances with the Meath setup before. So please break the trend and give us some examples. If they are good enough, I've no doubt that Andy will give some, if not all of them a chance. And if they improve the team, I'll support them regardless of how their club team(s) happen to do in the championship. And not that it matters one bit, but I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that North Meath teams have dominated the championships." So, here is the dominance for you: Senior - Simonstown, Wolfe Tones, Kells, NOM (4 out of the 5 left in it all ''North Meath'') Intermediate - St Michaels, Nobber, Oldcastle (3 out of 4 semi-finalists were ''North Meath'') Junior A - Moylagh, Meath Hill, Carnaross (3 out of 4 semi finalists were ''North Meath'') Do you see where I'm coming from? Don't get me wrong, I've seen us through the worst of it the last few years and will support whoever is on the pitch for the county. But one thing that our county were known for through the better days was physically tough AND mentally tough to win games or make it extremely hard for better teams to beat us. The results in the quarter final of this years Senior Champ again proved that there are certain teams that ''should'' win, but didn't win and proved again that they are a soft touch as regards mentally tough. I could name lads that, yes have had a chance with the county here or there in the O'Byrne Cup and an odd shot in the league but MOD went back to who he thought he could rely on which was his downfall. Last year there was a slight change and a step forward, which is a credit to Andy but he needs to find alternatives or else it's borderline insanity!! (Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results) bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 09/10/2017 16:40:07 2054194 Link
Replying To anfearbeag: "You say you don't care where people are from, and yet you keep banging on about it. It's not a good argument. It's a stupid pointless argument. Give it a rest." Don't agree that I keep going on about it I have always been against people giving out about too many county players from the one club for no real reason other than they don't like it. I made the point that there's a large number of players from this area on the county team who simply have not performed this year and that questions could be asked of them just like questions could be asked of any player not performing. Am I wrong to question football players on a football forum? Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 09/10/2017 16:53:08 2054203 Link
You have to laugh at some of the stuff here. About 10/15 years ago Simonstown were losing finals and semi finals and the "prevailing wisdom" was that they were a spineless bunch of soft townies who didn't know how to win. They win 1 senior championship and suddenly they're transformed into tough North Meath men who have a special winning spark that the rest of the county don't have. Geography is destiny huh? (No disrespect to Simonstown, I doubt they say these things themselves. And they certainly call themselves a "North Meath" club considering they're just the northern end of Navan Parish) CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 09/10/2017 18:52:50 2054233 Link
Replying To bowza123: "So, here is the dominance for you: Senior - Simonstown, Wolfe Tones, Kells, NOM (4 out of the 5 left in it all ''North Meath'') Intermediate - St Michaels, Nobber, Oldcastle (3 out of 4 semi-finalists were ''North Meath'') Junior A - Moylagh, Meath Hill, Carnaross (3 out of 4 semi finalists were ''North Meath'') Do you see where I'm coming from? Don't get me wrong, I've seen us through the worst of it the last few years and will support whoever is on the pitch for the county. But one thing that our county were known for through the better days was physically tough AND mentally tough to win games or make it extremely hard for better teams to beat us. The results in the quarter final of this years Senior Champ again proved that there are certain teams that ''should'' win, but didn't win and proved again that they are a soft touch as regards mentally tough. I could name lads that, yes have had a chance with the county here or there in the O'Byrne Cup and an odd shot in the league but MOD went back to who he thought he could rely on which was his downfall. Last year there was a slight change and a step forward, which is a credit to Andy but he needs to find alternatives or else it's borderline insanity!! (Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results)" I think your time might be better spent studying your geography, rather than posting that sort of nonsense. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 09/10/2017 22:34:58 2054272 Link
I see we're dealing with someone who deems all of Navan to be in North Meath. OK then, I'm out. The wait goes on for someone to give players from North Meath. Thought I would have gotten them this time. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 09/10/2017 23:06:52 2054279 Link