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Replying To tackleberry: "I wouldn't consider someone in mid 20s one for the future, think with respect to Kevin Ross, William Carry and few other of the new players, they need to be playing now! Not saying they are certain starters, i just feel perhaps the 19 and 20 year olds are ones for the future" Thought he was only 20/22. My mistake. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2017 12:24:31 1980104 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "with everyone fit,both players would do well to be on the panel. carry probably just makes it in fairness." Carry has actually impressed me this year. Has pace and a bit of attitude about him that I like. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2017 12:26:16 1980105 Link
Replying To tackleberry: "I wouldn't consider someone in mid 20s one for the future, think with respect to Kevin Ross, William Carry and few other of the new players, they need to be playing now! Not saying they are certain starters, i just feel perhaps the 19 and 20 year olds are ones for the future" You may not, but most folk would know that the good players are at their best in mid to late 20's when the have gained experience. If the 20/121 year olds are not good enough to get past the first round of the Leinster championship then there is the possibility of them not improving as they go into their 20's. Some player attain their peak early on and others take time as everyone is not the same On the issue of county players playing well- I agree and would add that they were also playing well in club football last year and the year before. The are also training since October '16 and I would expect a levelling off coming into championship in May. On the senior club league there are teams playing missing some regulars thru various reasons and one can only decide front runners when the real competition commences. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 17/04/2017 13:24:09 1980124 Link
Replying To browncows: "You may not, but most folk would know that the good players are at their best in mid to late 20's when the have gained experience. If the 20/121 year olds are not good enough to get past the first round of the Leinster championship then there is the possibility of them not improving as they go into their 20's. Some player attain their peak early on and others take time as everyone is not the same On the issue of county players playing well- I agree and would add that they were also playing well in club football last year and the year before. The are also training since October '16 and I would expect a levelling off coming into championship in May. On the senior club league there are teams playing missing some regulars thru various reasons and one can only decide front runners when the real competition commences." I'm not naive enough to understand that a player will peak in the mid 20s. But the players in question need the proper pedigree and experience at inter county level to blossom at this age. With the exception of Brian Fenton, the benchmark team,Dublin, are a testament to this theory. Also,kerry and mayo similar. As previously stated,and through no fault of Micko, there wasn't a structure in place for him underage wise. I think bringing in any player at 24 or 25 years of age for interview county level is backward. Just my opinion, i know Mcentee and Micko don't have a choice at minute but hopefully the good work being carried out to underage in county will reap the rewards on few years and we can set up our own conveyor belt of talent to bring Meath football back to where it belongs tackleberry (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 19/04/2017 11:35:02 1980722 Link
wonder if rowe may be called up? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/04/2017 16:56:05 1982283 Link
Why were the county players not playing for their clubs at the weekend? Long time till our next game Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 24/04/2017 19:00:09 1982322 Link
Because this is the nonsense that goes on only in meath. 6 weeks out from championship and a Micky mouse pitch opening or 2 coming up and rather than play with the club's who put the players where they are they are instructed not to play. A joke Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 24/04/2017 20:20:28 1982349 Link
Replying To Analyst: "Because this is the nonsense that goes on only in meath. 6 weeks out from championship and a Micky mouse pitch opening or 2 coming up and rather than play with the club's who put the players where they are they are instructed not to play. A joke" Did no county players play? Surely it would make sense to allow some of the squad players to tog out, some of those lads would have played very little football at all this year Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 24/04/2017 20:57:16 1982356 Link
Replying To Uncle_Fester: "Did no county players play? Surely it would make sense to allow some of the squad players to tog out, some of those lads would have played very little football at all this year" From the few match reports and what I heard I don't think any county players played with their clubs apart from Hannigan and Joe Sheridan. Even lads that haven't played a game for us in O'Byrne cup or league didn't play for their clubs. On another note it would't give you much hope that the first round of the championship will go ahead on the date given. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 24/04/2017 21:27:23 1982363 Link
Replying To Uncle_Fester: "Did no county players play? Surely it would make sense to allow some of the squad players to tog out, some of those lads would have played very little football at all this year" http://hoganstand.com/Meath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=269422 According to this article Douglas played for Trim but not Toher so perhaps some players were instructed not to play while others were allowed. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 24/04/2017 21:28:54 1982364 Link
Replying To oldsam_newsam: "http://hoganstand.com/Meath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=269422 According to this article Douglas played for Trim but not Toher so perhaps some players were instructed not to play while others were allowed." While this is annoying for clubs, (at least the club player still gets to play) its understandable, different systems, styles, instructions etc wont help a player come championship time, the 4th of June is coming quickly, Andy gets one shot to make this a successful first year, we need everyone fit and solely focused on Meath, nothing else. Yes its unfortunate but this is how the games have gone, dubs Donegal mayo all do similar, we either have ambition as a county or we don't, the days of togging out for club one day and county the next day / week are over. Its what has happened, is it right? Of course not, but it is necessary. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2017 07:54:49 1982405 Link
Disappointing I must say. They should have been released to the clubs, it turned this round of the league into a damp squid. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 25/04/2017 09:08:33 1982423 Link
I could be wrong but it certainly seems that the county lads have played more league football this year than in previous years. Clubs have to supply top 5/8 lists to county board for the first week of May so I'd say they plan on starting the championship according to the planner. Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 25/04/2017 09:26:08 1982430 Link
meath players were doing something saturday evening. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/04/2017 09:46:52 1982439 Link
They had a game amongst themselves in Dunboyne on Saturday evening hence why a lot of lads didn't play with their clubs Meathmaster (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 25/04/2017 10:29:14 1982457 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "While this is annoying for clubs, (at least the club player still gets to play) its understandable, different systems, styles, instructions etc wont help a player come championship time, the 4th of June is coming quickly, Andy gets one shot to make this a successful first year, we need everyone fit and solely focused on Meath, nothing else. Yes its unfortunate but this is how the games have gone, dubs Donegal mayo all do similar, we either have ambition as a county or we don't, the days of togging out for club one day and county the next day / week are over. Its what has happened, is it right? Of course not, but it is necessary." That is utter nonsense, of the highest order. You are suggesting that players of inter-county standard can't play different systems/levels over a period of a few weeks. I agree that Andy needs time with his players to have them in the best shape possible for early June but he should be able to factor club activity into their schedule and still get the best out of them. What was wrong with playing their training game on Wednesday and leave them off with their clubs at the weekend, especially the lads who are on the fringes. You mention that because the likes of Dublin and Donegal are doing it then so should we but you forget that we've been doing it for years too and it's not working. We need to get back to basics, a professional approach with a sense of an understanding of the bigger picture. GoalsWinGames (Meath) - Posts: 303 - 25/04/2017 11:44:54 1982492 Link
Its easier to for a County Manager to tell the County Players not to play with their clubs , it means that there's less management on the players required . In essence its back to everyone looking after their own corner .Less games means less of a chance of injury , so that the only management required is what happens to the County players on County Duty . In truth any decent Club Manager would have to Juggle more Management balls than County Managers especially when the County has first shout . ....... Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 25/04/2017 13:25:33 1982520 Link
Replying To Royal_Gunner: "I could be wrong but it certainly seems that the county lads have played more league football this year than in previous years. Clubs have to supply top 5/8 lists to county board for the first week of May so I'd say they plan on starting the championship according to the planner." Indeed you are wrong browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 25/04/2017 13:46:50 1982532 Link
Replying To browncows: "Indeed you are wrong" Offering no explanation to why this poster is wrong just a smug indication that you somehow have access to all previous club league campaigns and what county players have participated in them. Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 25/04/2017 15:00:10 1982557 Link
Anyone know yet what players were dropped? Is that perhaps why Douglas was playing for Trim? As I see Lowndes and Fiachra Ward we're both playing for dunboyne and tones respectively, two of the more likely lads to have been cut TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 25/04/2017 15:26:43 1982561 Link