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With Liam Silke and Cillian Mc Daid returning from abroad for next season as well as the emergence of Kieren Molloy and Paddy Tallys departure i am looking forward already to next season..

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 14/08/2018 19:24:07    2133367

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Come back Mayo all is forgiven was exactly what I was thinking after watching two terrible semi finals at the weekend. 3 poor teams in Galway, Tyrone and Monaghan and Dublin being their poorest since 2010. Galway were pathetic, didn't even try to put it up to Dublin in the second half. Tyrone fell over the line against a poor Monaghan performance. And the Tyrone posters slagging Mayo off is laughable. Mayo have put it up to Dublin more than any other team in the last 8 years. All while playing watchable football. Tyrone have lost to Dublin multiple times in that period playing unwatchable football."
'Unwatchable' yet you watched it

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 14/08/2018 19:25:54    2133368

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Replying To Dec82:  "Thats a fair point and no i wasnt at it but i understand your point. As a Galway supporter who goes to the games, do you enjoy watching them? Im just curios because watching Clare in 15 and 16 was hard work."
Some points you made certainly have merit in terms of the thread. Anyone who did not enjoy the last two finals from an excitement and intensity perspective i would question. In terms of me as a fan who goes to games I go because i follow our lads through thick and thin. As enjoying watching us yes sometimes I have moments whereby I think we can be much more offensive orientated but then when I go to games watching other teams as a neutral I still see plenty of lateral play and defensive structures.
I think the Galway footballers get a bit of a hard time from some Galway folk partly because of the hurlers doing well and the general feeling that hurling is well ahead for entertainment. I go to plenty of hurling games and understand this situation to some degree although don't agree with it. For the record Clare may from your perspective have been uneasy on the eye in '15 and '16 buy certainly play front press hurling now and unlucky not to be the final. Some turnaround.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2018 19:38:28    2133372

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Replying To Dec82:  "Thats a fair point and no i wasnt at it but i understand your point. As a Galway supporter who goes to the games, do you enjoy watching them? Im just curios because watching Clare in 15 and 16 was hard work."
Being honest there are times when I go to matches not involving Galway and as much lateral play and defensive structure as anything we have produced. I follow our boys thick and thin and very few counties for example have a Shane Walsh type of player who can excite the crowd. Maybe he does not do it as often as Michael Donnellan of yesteryear but the current context of the way game has evolved does not help this type of player. Of course at times I would prefer us to be more offensive but the reality of what happened against Tipp in '16 is still biting. One of the reasons Mayo were very effective was a full press half back line (possibly our weakest line currently) but with Liam Silke and Cilian McDaid due back I expect us to have a better box to box type half back line in years to come.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 14/08/2018 20:37:59    2133384

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I hope Mayo come roaring back next year. They are the only team that gives Dublin a game. Yet they are probably the one challenger to Dublin's throne who face the most criticism and ridicule.

Dublin coast past the rest of the teams they play. They hammered Roscommon with an understrength team.

Tyrone might prove everyone wrong and put it up to them in the final. I'm sure Harte has a trick or two up his sleeve.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 14/08/2018 20:45:35    2133386

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Replying To Dec82:  "I dont think tere poor. 2017 final mayo forwards scored 10 points from play, Dubs scored 1 - 10 from play. Teres not much in that because each set of backs are evenly matched. Like another poster said earlier i think tere lacking a quality inside forward but i wouldn't say tere poor."
Tere? Come back to me when you learn to spell.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 14/08/2018 21:09:20    2133392

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Replying To Condorman:  "Tere? Come back to me when you learn to spell."
I dont think they're poor. 2017 final mayo forwards scored 10 points from play, Dubs scored 1 - 10 from play. Theres not much in that because each set of backs are evenly matched. Like another poster said earlier i think they're lacking a quality inside forward but i wouldn't say they're poor.

Cant believe i posted using incorrect grammer, good job there's people like you in the world. Up there on your high horses keeping the rest of us in line. Fairplay buddy.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 14/08/2018 22:03:33    2133406

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Replying To Condorman:  "No its not.
Are you saying Mayo forwards are good?"
We have a good freetaker and one good forward in his mid 30s. Should be getting more from the other forwards but hard to see their confidence improving when our plan is to give the ball to Andy or win a free for Cillian to convert.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 14/08/2018 22:12:25    2133409

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Some points you made certainly have merit in terms of the thread. Anyone who did not enjoy the last two finals from an excitement and intensity perspective i would question. In terms of me as a fan who goes to games I go because i follow our lads through thick and thin. As enjoying watching us yes sometimes I have moments whereby I think we can be much more offensive orientated but then when I go to games watching other teams as a neutral I still see plenty of lateral play and defensive structures.
I think the Galway footballers get a bit of a hard time from some Galway folk partly because of the hurlers doing well and the general feeling that hurling is well ahead for entertainment. I go to plenty of hurling games and understand this situation to some degree although don't agree with it. For the record Clare may from your perspective have been uneasy on the eye in '15 and '16 buy certainly play front press hurling now and unlucky not to be the final. Some turnaround."
Galway deserved to get to the final, better team over 2 days but we made serious progress which i am happy with. I've been saying for years that we had the hurlers just needed good management and hopefully we can kick on.
I think football can be just as entertaining if played more freely, im not against a team having good defensive plans in place but its gone way over the top. Galway have some of the best forwards in the country, thats why i asked if you enjoyed watching them because it must be frustrating.
I hope them lads coming back add something new to your arsenal because its a shame not seeing Comer and Walsh cut loose.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 14/08/2018 23:23:42    2133431

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Replying To Belclare1:  "With Liam Silke and Cillian Mc Daid returning from abroad for next season as well as the emergence of Kieren Molloy and Paddy Tallys departure i am looking forward already to next season.."
has tally addition not brought the team on leaps and bounds?..was he involved last year?..i remember a very grim kerry tie....all i know is shane walsh deserves to be on a good team and at the business end of the championship..

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2018 00:29:18    2133443

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "'Unwatchable' yet you watched it"
You know what I mean.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 15/08/2018 00:42:43    2133448

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We have a good freetaker and one good forward in his mid 30s. Should be getting more from the other forwards but hard to see their confidence improving when our plan is to give the ball to Andy or win a free for Cillian to convert."
The younger lads like Loftus haven't got a proper look in under Rochford too. I hope he goes and they get someone like McGuinness in who might get them over the line before it's too late.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 15/08/2018 01:02:26    2133450

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Said in jest meant in earnest , interesting I've heard more postitives about Mayo in last couple of days than when they were actually playing, I'm reminded of the lad who's injured and every time his team loses his stock goes threw the roof , of course I'm writing prior to the final but I have to say none of the teams looking to dethrone Dublin are within an arses roar of Mayo at there best , they were monster unlucky with injuries this year and truth be told in need of a rest , the championship needs them to comeback in 2019 regardless of who's champions , championship needs quality and only a fool would argue Mayo in full flow don't have it"
I never thought I would say it, but I miss them and they are missed both on and off the pitch. So yeah come back all is definitely forgiven

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 15/08/2018 02:39:11    2133459

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "The younger lads like Loftus haven't got a proper look in under Rochford too. I hope he goes and they get someone like McGuinness in who might get them over the line before it's too late."
What's a 'proper' look in? Loftus has had a few chances and hasn't really impressed. Maybe that's because the senior team isn't encouraging forwards to take on more shooting chances. Loftus is still young but for me very much a confidence player. Misses two or three chances then drops the head and becomes shot shy. Arguably the settled forwards haven't had much look in either. Cillian, Diarmuid, Jason, Kevin and Aidan are well capable should all be contributing more from play but tactics doesn't seem to allow this. McGuinness won't take the job, prefers a professional soccer coaching job.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 15/08/2018 11:45:37    2133532

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Replying To arock:  "I never thought I would say it, but I miss them and they are missed both on and off the pitch. So yeah come back all is definitely forgiven"
Out of interest what have we to be sorry for/been forgiven for?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 15/08/2018 11:55:44    2133537

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "What's a 'proper' look in? Loftus has had a few chances and hasn't really impressed. Maybe that's because the senior team isn't encouraging forwards to take on more shooting chances. Loftus is still young but for me very much a confidence player. Misses two or three chances then drops the head and becomes shot shy. Arguably the settled forwards haven't had much look in either. Cillian, Diarmuid, Jason, Kevin and Aidan are well capable should all be contributing more from play but tactics doesn't seem to allow this. McGuinness won't take the job, prefers a professional soccer coaching job."
McGuinness announced on live TV after the the Mayo/Kildare game that the chance of this Mayo team winning an all-ireland was gone. Horan was sitting right beside him .Riveting stuff, in a way!!

Jimmy would hardly be cynical enough to take 'the Mayo job', just a few short weeks after announcing their demise to a live, albeit largely subscribed, TV audience.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3425 - 15/08/2018 12:20:09    2133544

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Rockford staying is a huge relief to JD, COC and a couple of others who are hanging on to the jersey. Mayo will be in the Super 8's, as will Galway next season, will be mighty stuff. Mayo forgiven for throwing GPS? Nice gesture.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 15/08/2018 12:39:34    2133556

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "You know what I mean."
I do. The hint is in your name.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 15/08/2018 13:13:49    2133572

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Out of interest what have we to be sorry for/been forgiven for?"
Throwing Global Positioning Systems at our players for starters

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/08/2018 13:15:56    2133574

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Dublin fans pining for Mayo is definitely one of the more patronising things I've read on here.

Ultimately the past is the past and Mayo were not good enough this specific year to compete. Dublin would have swatted them aside especially with the injuries and the fact that some of the older players are finally beginning to show their age.

Mayo may be back next year but father time remains undefeated and the arrow is currently pointing slightly downwards for this Mayo side rather than upwards. They are probably going to be entering a period of transition over the next few years. They may be able to summon up one more good run in 2019 and that wouldn't surprise me but realistically I would not even make them favourites for Connacht next year.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2216 - 15/08/2018 13:31:34    2133584

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