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Looks like good weather in the home of football for the final, a sunny day of 21 degrees forecast for Dublin 3, prefect fare for good football. ;)
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/08/2018 17:46:14
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Replying To Dubh_linn: "Listen,
It's absolutely par for the course at this stage.
The begrudgery will continue from the same misery guts and a few new muppets who hide behind false county identities.
Doesn't matter what rubbish they pedal ,they don't matter,they're irrelevant.
I'm looking forward to Sunday and would much prefer to be in the final than sitting around whinging like this lot.
They'll be at it again on Sunday and Monday and it still won't matter." You're not speaking any sense. It's very fair to point out that the capital city council and three county councils have made a province out of Dublin. The composition of provinces have changed before and it they change again. Dialogue needs to begin in Dublin on the composition of the split that is respectful of varied traditions and history.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 30/08/2018 17:57:56
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Replying To TheHermit: "Never mind them lads - the usual cohort of Dub posters going out of their way to put the boot into Kerry even when they have an All-Ireland final to look forward to! Says it all about them.
The arrogance and self-importance they show on here is nauseating at this stage and to see the tripe they're now continually posting (and being allowed post) just because they've experienced a few years of unprecedented and extraordinary success.
They think what they have done in 8 years means they can degrade and dismiss Kerry's great history and tradition which has been built up over 120 years. It's really irritating to hear this guff constantly posted by them on the back of a few All-Ireland titles.
At least, like I said, they are not representative of the actual Dublin fans you meet at League games etc.
For the record I had no intention in getting involved in this discussion on the final, until I saw the slurry username was posting.
And that's the last I'll be saying on this thread anyway. The only posting I will be doing on here come Sunday or Monday will be on how our minors got on on Sunday.
To the real Tyrone and Dublin fans out there I hope ye enjoy Sunday." Dublin success not going down well in Kerry!
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 30/08/2018 18:19:25
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Heard Charlie Redmond on with Ray Darcy today, he was saying the poor Dubs have to train on some oul sandy pitch and they have no heat in the dressing rooms, pull the other one Charlie, he also said Tyrone were second best, Freudian slip and more fuel for the Red hands on Sunday.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 30/08/2018 18:39:53
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Replying To dubdec99: "So really TheHermit, it's just one poster that easily got under your skin?" I replied to Mr Hermit some hours ago, it was pretty tasty but obviously the censor didn't approve.
Suffice to say I disagreed with said hermit in the strongest term.
Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 30/08/2018 19:18:07
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Replying To Condorman: "I replied to Mr Hermit some hours ago, it was pretty tasty but obviously the censor didn't approve.
Suffice to say I disagreed with said hermit in the strongest term." I've had comprehensive responses censored as well. I'm not the only one so! It's been a poor decade in fairness. Sure, ye can only play the opposition in front of ye.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 30/08/2018 19:38:36
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tyrone have fronted up and named their team early...not afraid to put their gameplan out there either..with meyler and brennan not starting they are obviously going for keeping it tight early on with brennan and meyler to be unleashed later in the game...dublin obviously afraid to play their hand first..tyrone's selection gives them so many variables and has a really good balance about it...it appears they will be setting up in the same way as they did in the league game in 2017..great stuff
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 30/08/2018 23:32:38
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All falling neatly into place for tyrone..Whelan expressing concerns about complacency amongst dubs fans..claiming it won't affect players but of course it seeps through to the players..then Mickey reveals his battle with cancer..shrewd timing along with documentary this week on tg4 which Tyrone pushed to be broadcast this week.how can none of this have an impact on officials commentators and deep into the Dublin mindset..compare this to the lack of interaction with the media in the Dublin camp...yes all coming together nicely
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 31/08/2018 10:26:52
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Replying To mayotyroneman: "All falling neatly into place for tyrone..Whelan expressing concerns about complacency amongst dubs fans..claiming it won't affect players but of course it seeps through to the players..then Mickey reveals his battle with cancer..shrewd timing along with documentary this week on tg4 which Tyrone pushed to be broadcast this week.how can none of this have an impact on officials commentators and deep into the Dublin mindset..compare this to the lack of interaction with the media in the Dublin camp...yes all coming together nicely" Delighted for you , its great when its all coming together nicely , roll on sunday.
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 31/08/2018 11:01:57
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I'm finding it fairly interesting seeing the massive belief emanating from Tyrone. Part of me is thinking Jesus could they really do this. Could they ruffle the Dubs feathers enough to stop the 4 in a row. It's a one off sporting occasion so anything is possible however then my head starts to think about things more clearly and I come up with the following:
- Form guide: Dublin have coasted to the final versus Tyrone suffering two defeats. A far from magical semi-final performance to get them past Monaghan most recently.
- Strength and depth: No contesting here that Dublin have a lot more at their disposal than Tyrone. To be able to spring game changers off the bench is key and Gavin certainly has a wealth of options at his disposal if the game isn't going Dublin's way.
- Experience: Going for 4 in a row this Dublin side expect to be involve in the September showpiece each year and won't be phased in the slightest on Sunday, regardless of the inevitable early onslaught of big hits and crowd rousing play from Tyrone.
- Gavin v Harte: Two great managers without a doubt. I feel a lot of people are getting a bit too swayed by the "Mickey Harte" factor. An unbelievable achievement winning the three All Ireland's in the noughties, namely the last two when underdogs. Talk of him always springing something new tactically on final day is all well and good but let's not forget the squad of players he had at his disposal back then compared to what he has with his current crop. There is only so much he can do. Also in Jim Gavin we have a tactically astute and ruthless manager who is well able to make calls in the heat of battle. Big difference is when Jim Gavin turns to his bench on Sunday he will have more to throw into the mix.
- Hunger: Tyrone will undoubtedly be chomping at the bit for this one. Rank outsiders and they will relish this tag aiming to stuff it down the throats of everyone in the country. The one thing I previously doubted about Dublin when going for the 3 in a row was whether the hunger was there and I think this current Dublin crop have answered that question. They are relentless. They have faced Mayo in 3 finals since 2013 including a replay in 2016. They are used to facing counties with unbelievable hunger and desire to get over the line. They will not be phased by the emotion of it and will not allow themselves to be sidetracked from their main aim.
- Prediction: I think Tyrone will rattle Dublin for a large period and perhaps take an early lead which will see the crowd get behind them and Dublin facing a few big questions. I think Dublin will reel them in and slowly turn the screw as they do so well. Come 50 minutes I expect the bench to be utilised and Dublin to start to take control with Tyrone having expended a lot of energy in staying in the game to that point. I expect Dublin to have at least two clear scores between the sides come full time and win by 4 points minimum.
Looking forward to Sunday in a big way now. Nerves are starting to kick in and loving the usual pre match videos etc flying around on whatsapp.
TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 31/08/2018 11:10:19
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Replying To legendzxix: "I've had comprehensive responses censored as well. I'm not the only one so! It's been a poor decade in fairness. Sure, ye can only play the opposition in front of ye." Its been a fantastic decade in fairness , unlike previous decades when to win an All Ireland sometimes all that was required was to win 3 games . Sure , "ye can only play the opposition in front of ye."
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 31/08/2018 11:12:29
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Replying To superbluedub: "Its been a fantastic decade in fairness , unlike previous decades when to win an All Ireland sometimes all that was required was to win 3 games . Sure , "ye can only play the opposition in front of ye."" I spoke to a Kerry man after the semi, I was surprised to see that one had travelled up to watch the minors. A happy man but with a sadness in him. I said are you happy to see the Kerry las get into another minor final? He was he said but then looked at me and my heart strings took a nudge, he goes on to say, do you know its been a very long time ago when Kerry seniors where not at the semi final stage of the All Ireland. My heart began to bleed for the man, I felt his pain but could see he was worried about the future lack of semi final spots. I said something to him in order to confirm his fears...…."The super 8's will cause Kerry a lot of harm. No more handy routes to the latter stages eh fella".
cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 31/08/2018 11:51:02
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Replying To superbluedub: "Its been a fantastic decade in fairness , unlike previous decades when to win an All Ireland sometimes all that was required was to win 3 games . Sure , "ye can only play the opposition in front of ye."" Yeah and play one game against 15 hurlers to win a provincial championship and earn a AI semi final spot. Hard won Sams alright.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/08/2018 12:04:48
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Replying To mayotyroneman: "All falling neatly into place for tyrone..Whelan expressing concerns about complacency amongst dubs fans..claiming it won't affect players but of course it seeps through to the players..then Mickey reveals his battle with cancer..shrewd timing along with documentary this week on tg4 which Tyrone pushed to be broadcast this week.how can none of this have an impact on officials commentators and deep into the Dublin mindset..compare this to the lack of interaction with the media in the Dublin camp...yes all coming together nicely" I would say keeping the head down and staying away from the media was the way the go but to each is own I suppose. Will take a lot more than Mickey saying, thankfully, he's cancer free to get into minds of our lads, nice straw clutching again just like up in Omagh when you said Tyrone will definitely best us.....I think you need to stop giving your lads the dreaded kiss of death, actually, keep it up and it's working a treat so far :-)
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/08/2018 12:38:41
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Replying To mayotyroneman: "tyrone have fronted up and named their team early...not afraid to put their gameplan out there either..with meyler and brennan not starting they are obviously going for keeping it tight early on with brennan and meyler to be unleashed later in the game...dublin obviously afraid to play their hand first..tyrone's selection gives them so many variables and has a really good balance about it...it appears they will be setting up in the same way as they did in the league game in 2017..great stuff" Lol Yeah, obviously.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/08/2018 12:40:55
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Heard Charlie Redmond on with Ray Darcy today, he was saying the poor Dubs have to train on some oul sandy pitch and they have no heat in the dressing rooms, pull the other one Charlie, he also said Tyrone were second best, Freudian slip and more fuel for the Red hands on Sunday." He also said discounting Tyrone would be delusional of Dublin, probably best waiting to read everything he said before making a fool of yourself....again
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/08/2018 12:42:51
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Replying To Dubsfan28: "I would say keeping the head down and staying away from the media was the way the go but to each is own I suppose. Will take a lot more than Mickey saying, thankfully, he's cancer free to get into minds of our lads, nice straw clutching again just like up in Omagh when you said Tyrone will definitely best us.....I think you need to stop giving your lads the dreaded kiss of death, actually, keep it up and it's working a treat so far :-)" *Tyrone would
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 31/08/2018 12:43:51
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Replying To TrueBlue35: "I'm finding it fairly interesting seeing the massive belief emanating from Tyrone. Part of me is thinking Jesus could they really do this. Could they ruffle the Dubs feathers enough to stop the 4 in a row. It's a one off sporting occasion so anything is possible however then my head starts to think about things more clearly and I come up with the following:
- Form guide: Dublin have coasted to the final versus Tyrone suffering two defeats. A far from magical semi-final performance to get them past Monaghan most recently.
- Strength and depth: No contesting here that Dublin have a lot more at their disposal than Tyrone. To be able to spring game changers off the bench is key and Gavin certainly has a wealth of options at his disposal if the game isn't going Dublin's way.
- Experience: Going for 4 in a row this Dublin side expect to be involve in the September showpiece each year and won't be phased in the slightest on Sunday, regardless of the inevitable early onslaught of big hits and crowd rousing play from Tyrone.
- Gavin v Harte: Two great managers without a doubt. I feel a lot of people are getting a bit too swayed by the "Mickey Harte" factor. An unbelievable achievement winning the three All Ireland's in the noughties, namely the last two when underdogs. Talk of him always springing something new tactically on final day is all well and good but let's not forget the squad of players he had at his disposal back then compared to what he has with his current crop. There is only so much he can do. Also in Jim Gavin we have a tactically astute and ruthless manager who is well able to make calls in the heat of battle. Big difference is when Jim Gavin turns to his bench on Sunday he will have more to throw into the mix.
- Hunger: Tyrone will undoubtedly be chomping at the bit for this one. Rank outsiders and they will relish this tag aiming to stuff it down the throats of everyone in the country. The one thing I previously doubted about Dublin when going for the 3 in a row was whether the hunger was there and I think this current Dublin crop have answered that question. They are relentless. They have faced Mayo in 3 finals since 2013 including a replay in 2016. They are used to facing counties with unbelievable hunger and desire to get over the line. They will not be phased by the emotion of it and will not allow themselves to be sidetracked from their main aim.
- Prediction: I think Tyrone will rattle Dublin for a large period and perhaps take an early lead which will see the crowd get behind them and Dublin facing a few big questions. I think Dublin will reel them in and slowly turn the screw as they do so well. Come 50 minutes I expect the bench to be utilised and Dublin to start to take control with Tyrone having expended a lot of energy in staying in the game to that point. I expect Dublin to have at least two clear scores between the sides come full time and win by 4 points minimum.
Looking forward to Sunday in a big way now. Nerves are starting to kick in and loving the usual pre match videos etc flying around on whatsapp." Agree 100% with this post. All the scenarios in my head where Tyrone really cause Dublin bother, and in the end the Dubs win out each time.
People say Tyrone should go hell for leather on Sunday. The best place team in the land at that chaos and one-on-one stuff is Mayo and Dublin handled them - last year especially I thought was a huge indicator of the hunger of the Dubs versus that manic play from Mayo. It was a great final that could have gone either way, barely a sniff between them. Tyrone just aren't good enough at that style of football, so will play what they know - and Dublin know how to beat that in the end.
Dublin by at least 4 points.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 31/08/2018 12:48:53
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As a neutral ....
Tyrone 3-9 Dublin 1-14
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 31/08/2018 13:05:48
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So, is this a first for an All Ireland final, if the experts, pundits, and ex players are to be believed, Tyrone are travelling to Dublin on Sunday simply as a damage limitation exercise, hoping to put a gloss on the scoreboard, has this ever happened before?
brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 31/08/2018 13:34:03
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