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Imagine policing it at club level with one referee! Go to any 7s competition to see how interchange subs work in practice, its a mess.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 19:34:24 2048738 Link 0 |
yep she's a bit of a Paul Galvin type player but with better fashion sense....
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 20/09/2017 19:46:03 2048744 Link 1 |
your going to lose older players out the other side as they'll start slowing or get more injury prone. Mayo had about 17-18 of the requisite standard on Sunday that's the most they've ever had. unlikely to ever have 21/22. The system needs to be changed back no reason why felllas can't last 70 min centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 22/09/2017 17:36:46 2049408 Link 0 |
Burned of Mayo 2 Years ago with MDMA and Mcmenamon coming on.Last year with MDMA and Costello It depends what do you want do you want make it realistic for Mayo/Cork/Meath/Roscommon/Galway/Kildare/Ulster teams to compete or do you want Dublin and Kerry to completely dominate. Dublin win 4of last 7 U21s. Kerry won last 4 minor the 2 of them are likely to have way more depth than anyone else going forward centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 22/09/2017 17:51:52 2049414 Link 0 |
Maybe it's time to revert back to the 3 subs rule, at the moment if a team is losing by 1 or 2 points near full time they can throw on a few subs if they haven't already used them and the ref adds on an extra 20 seconds per sub on top of the added time, gives the losing team more time to get level, also the kick out rule has to be reverted, in the past if a wide happens the kick outs were taken from the edge of the small square, if a score happens the resulting kick out was taken from the 13m line, this more or less stopped the short kick outs. If your team uses the short kick outs you love it, if you are the opposing team you hate it, as for the neutrals most I would say hate it, the mark was meant to encourage long kick outs but in honestly it only happens a few times in a game, go back to the old rules of kick outs and 3 subs, it worked for over 100 years there was no need to change it (6 subs is too much) riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 23/09/2017 23:11:00 2049779 Link 0 |
Used it be only one sub allowed going back 40 odd years ago? And ya I'd totally agree with you going back to 3 subs and the old kickouts as well, also the black card is not fit for purpose, a sin bin would be away better and wouldn't be hard to administer in fairness also take the time keeping off the reff and bring in a buzzer. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/09/2017 23:56:25 2049787 Link 0 |
Just a point about going potentially going back to 3 subs. Firstly, while I accept that having 6 subs suits the likes of Dublin or Kerry more than a lot of other counties, because of the depth of their panels currently, the 6 subs rule helps in a lot of other ways too. Take Mayo for example, two of their best players all year were Boyle and Moran, but they were both taken off in almost every game they played, simply because of fatigue or miles on the legs or whatever way you want to put it. There is no doubting however that Mayo are a much better team because they can use these players for even 45 or 50 minutes. If Rochford knew he could only use three subs per game, could he have afforded to tie two of them up knowing they would have to be used to replace Andy Moran and Boyle in every game, or would the effect be that the older players would have to be sacrificed from the team to make sure he would have full use of his bench in case of injuries, tactical switches etc. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 24/09/2017 13:55:12 2049872 Link 1 |
You've missed the point completely. Where is anyone advocating only handicapping Dublin?
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 24/09/2017 15:28:13 2049894 Link 0 |
Unless it's for an obvious injury, I'd also ban all time-wasting substitutions in the last 5 minutes and added time. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 24/09/2017 15:35:53 2049897 Link 0 |
very good idea
valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 24/09/2017 20:08:27 2050004 Link 0 |
Someone should bring a motion at congress to return back to 3 subs. centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 06/09/2018 19:05:39 2139921 Link 1 |
Someone should bring a motion at congress to return back to 3 subs. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 06/09/2018 19:57:12 2139942 Link 0 |
Yep, lets change absolutely everything so Dublin can't win. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 06/09/2018 21:10:29 2139953 Link 4 |
no lets just change it back to the way it used to be (3 subs)
centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 06/09/2018 21:41:11 2139960 Link 0 |
it helps the weaker teams because the likes of the Dubs cant say to lads. run yourselves into the ground for 40-50 minutes. then we'll bring on 6 fresh lads of the same standard. almost every other county will struggle to have 15 good enough, so when they go down into their bench there is a big drop off in standard creating a bigger mismatch in the DUbs in the last quarter. on Sunday if it was 3 substitutions that would have meant they only had 2 left after Cian OSullivan went off centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 06/09/2018 21:57:14 2139970 Link 5 |
There are some utterly ridiculous statements on this thread. One person reckons banning time wasting sub's in the last 5 mins. Who decides what's tactical and what's just timewasting? 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 06/09/2018 22:34:57 2139978 Link 0 |
Having 3 subs (including black cards) would effectively mean you'd have to hold off on making substitutes in case of injuries or black cards - there should also be a 10 min limit on blood subs/ concussion subs also. That would force teams to kick the ball and do a lot less running. Dublin would probably still win because they are fitter and the best kick passing team around but at least we would see less handpassing and blanket defenses. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1139 - 06/09/2018 23:16:29 2139990 Link 0 |
The logic of your post is a bit difficult to follow
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/09/2018 23:25:54 2139993 Link 0 |
"allowing teams to have 6 subs clearly plays into the hands of the Dubs." what utter nonsense. More anti-dub nonsense. Yeah lets split them in four, take their hard earned money off them, kick them out of Leinster, ban them from Gaelic football for ten years and allow the rest to catch up blah blah blah and now reduce the number of subs to three. I got an even better idea how about allowing Dublin NO subs and the rest say ten? and you know what? it will make no difference. Sport is unfair - these arguments are so sadly deluded! they cannot tell the difference between unfair and unequal. Unequal is an acceptance the runner A is faster than runner B and allowing runner B start 10 secs before A is not making them equal it is NOT even a race! Unfair is different and that is what you focus on. Reducing subs to 3 is mindless, pointless and will make a sterile game even more sterile. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 07/09/2018 00:01:32 2140000 Link 1 |
As opposed to the 2004 motto; "Let's absolutely change everything to ensure Dublin win absolutely everything"
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5020 - 07/09/2018 03:39:07 2140008 Link 0 |