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Meath v Derry

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Actually that's not much different to yesterday, bloody bookies _ I was expecting at least 7/2 maybe hoping 4/1"
After today I wouldn't touch 4-1 , I want Meath to win more than anything but if I was a neutral I think its a year or so too early in Andy's reign to get promoted

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 05/02/2017 21:04:29    1952401

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "After today I wouldn't touch 4-1 , I want Meath to win more than anything but if I was a neutral I think its a year or so too early in Andy's reign to get promoted"
With the draws today, a win next week would even things out. But who knows. One game at a time. Derry is all that matters niw.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2017 21:59:35    1952454

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Here Royals, next weekends game is a four pointer for both sides. Derry were terrible today, Clare should have left Celtic Park with a minimum 8 point victory. In all honesty Derry will be lucky to escape the drop this year. We have a lot of new young talented players onboard this year but very inexperienced at this level. We have no midfield which is unusual for a Derry side renowned for their strong midfield. Clare cleaned us out in the middle sector today. We have no pace and are playing a very defensive game which is isolating our forwards.

However, if we are struggling to get a draw with Clare at home I don't see us getting a result in Navan.

See you next weekend.

OakGael (Derry) - Posts: 293 - 05/02/2017 22:07:24    1952457

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Call me crazy but could we not operate a sweeper system to play in front of full back to help cut out supply

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 05/02/2017 22:08:16    1952460

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Right you can't make a silk purse out of a sow ear. Meath are looking poorer now than they did under Mick O Dowd, look what happened Laois at the weekend and Meath could only draw with them. Meath were terrible yesterday, but a lot of results went against expectation so there is still plenty of hope. But Meath need a midfield, cant expect the backs to stop the ball coming in when there is no one out the field to stop it. Cant expect forwards to score when there is no one to pass it into them. If you look at yesterdays game once the first ten minutes of madness was over Meath actually drew with Kildare on the score board anyway. So that is a small positive. Meath need a result against Derry but to do that they need to be able to win around mid field and I am guessing Biggy wouldn't be available on for this game due to his All Ireland Final with his club. ( Hopefully that will be a successful outing). So this is going to be a very difficult task.

anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 06/02/2017 10:28:11    1952591

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Bring Back Micko all is forgiven. Promotion hopes which should have been only goal this year are out the window.

An_Oifigeach (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 06/02/2017 11:11:05    1952614

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Replying To OakGael:  "Here Royals, next weekends game is a four pointer for both sides. Derry were terrible today, Clare should have left Celtic Park with a minimum 8 point victory. In all honesty Derry will be lucky to escape the drop this year. We have a lot of new young talented players onboard this year but very inexperienced at this level. We have no midfield which is unusual for a Derry side renowned for their strong midfield. Clare cleaned us out in the middle sector today. We have no pace and are playing a very defensive game which is isolating our forwards.

However, if we are struggling to get a draw with Clare at home I don't see us getting a result in Navan.

See you next weekend."
It sounds like the teams are very evenly matched- you could have written much the same things about the current Meath team!

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 06/02/2017 11:17:52    1952622

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It's a sweeper we need we just need our 6 to hold his position Kildare looked like the bad a sweeper in position but they didn't Eoin Doyle just didn't follow Reilly he held his 6 covered space and then he pushed up when Meath attacked at midfield and that's when Meath needed to kick it in he was brought out to pick up and it meant Meath had 2 on 2 inside.

Meath909 (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 06/02/2017 11:27:36    1952627

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The top focus has to be Midfield area. That's obvious. We so see if we can get some breaking ball winners in that area Wallace is not, Shane Mc Antee is not, Power is not. These cant start the next day. The middle 8 the 3 half forwards 3 half backs and the two midfielders needs to looked at closely.
I will have a stab at it.

Conor Downey Bryan Menton Alan Forde

Cian O'Brien Adam Flanagan

Bobby O'Brien Graham Reilly Cillian O'Sullivan

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 06/02/2017 11:49:08    1952644

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Replying To OakGael:  "Here Royals, next weekends game is a four pointer for both sides. Derry were terrible today, Clare should have left Celtic Park with a minimum 8 point victory. In all honesty Derry will be lucky to escape the drop this year. We have a lot of new young talented players onboard this year but very inexperienced at this level. We have no midfield which is unusual for a Derry side renowned for their strong midfield. Clare cleaned us out in the middle sector today. We have no pace and are playing a very defensive game which is isolating our forwards.

However, if we are struggling to get a draw with Clare at home I don't see us getting a result in Navan.

See you next weekend."
We seem to be in similar position, big game for both

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 06/02/2017 13:28:42    1952707

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Oh God. What a disappointing game it turned out to be yesterday. Heading to Navan I felt optimistic and genuinely a little excited for the first time in a long time.
I don't think I have ever seen a worse meath team in my life. So much talk about this player could make a difference or this other lad is no help. Not only were we dominated at midfield, but we also couldn't win any so called dirty ball. Kildare played nice football and tore Meath apart. So Derry next Sunday and the one positive is that it is on inew Navan, because we struggle away from home. Gillespie, Rooney and Shane o Rourke are a massive loss. People say Rourke couldn't do the training so why not treat him like a Paul Mcgrath figure.

atta (Meath) - Posts: 698 - 06/02/2017 14:39:18    1952758

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Meath need a Seamus Kenny like player more than ever now, to secure a good share of breaking and dirty ball around midfield.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 06/02/2017 15:52:44    1952823

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Forget about Kildare, we can do nothing about it. It's all about getting a win on Sunday, if we should win everything is back on the table, however a loss and relegation is on the table, I'll be honest I had wins against Derry Kildare and Down as been certain ( well as near to it as possible) also I had Clare away as a win, and to win one the other homes games, 10 points and see where that takes us. Now one of those is gone this game is now must win or we could end up at best on 6 , that may not be good enough. So let's pack out

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/02/2017 15:55:48    1952826

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Who should we play full forward in this game?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 06/02/2017 16:16:56    1952843

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Replying To GlasagusOr:  "Meath need a Seamus Kenny like player more than ever now, to secure a good share of breaking and dirty ball around midfield."
Glasagus Or absolutely agree; but why could Andy not see that yesterday ?especially when it was clear that Menton would only punch with one hand repeatedly. Kildare picked up every one of those punched balls. Who was assigned that job for us ? I could always see Kenny doing that job effectively. As some other poster said here what was Wallace doing yesterday?
Maybe ANDY thinks it is more helpful to argue with the ref. and linesman than watch for play patterns and act swiftly. No it is not too early to question this stupid and highly questionable behaviour by a manager. You do not have to be loyal to stupidity. Then i suppose we have to remember Andy is learning as he goes also. He had a lot to learn from yesterday.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1226 - 06/02/2017 16:21:37    1952847

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Replying To anto_meath:  "Right you can't make a silk purse out of a sow ear. Meath are looking poorer now than they did under Mick O Dowd, look what happened Laois at the weekend and Meath could only draw with them. Meath were terrible yesterday, but a lot of results went against expectation so there is still plenty of hope. But Meath need a midfield, cant expect the backs to stop the ball coming in when there is no one out the field to stop it. Cant expect forwards to score when there is no one to pass it into them. If you look at yesterdays game once the first ten minutes of madness was over Meath actually drew with Kildare on the score board anyway. So that is a small positive. Meath need a result against Derry but to do that they need to be able to win around mid field and I am guessing Biggy wouldn't be available on for this game due to his All Ireland Final with his club. ( Hopefully that will be a successful outing). So this is going to be a very difficult task."
I see your points,but where do we find a midfield at this stage? We have Derry on Sunday.The best midfielders in Meath are Harry Rooney,Shane O'Rourke,Conor Nash and Ronan Jones.
we don't have a full forward and in general when players look up to pass there is nobody there to pass too.I would play D.Tobin at midfield but he is injured.We are stuck with Menton out of position and either O'Brien or flanagan.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 06/02/2017 16:26:12    1952853

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Who should we play full forward in this game?"
Cian Ward or Jamie queeney ????? . Ha ha . maye Paddy o rourke . I think he plays there for Skyrne. Other option is to put in a fast player like O Coileain or Downey and bring them out to collect ball and help out our young midfielders

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 06/02/2017 17:17:38    1952889

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It will take a good performance to beat Derry considering we are coming off two brutal performances against Louth and Kildare. We can't assume we will beat them because they may not be strong at the moment. We rarely beat northern teams as we don't adjust to their tactics. Andy needs to play a sweeper next weekend to shore up the defence.

Meathmen (Meath) - Posts: 73 - 06/02/2017 17:28:44    1952893

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I see your points,but where do we find a midfield at this stage? We have Derry on Sunday.The best midfielders in Meath are Harry Rooney,Shane O'Rourke,Conor Nash and Ronan Jones.
we don't have a full forward and in general when players look up to pass there is nobody there to pass too.I would play D.Tobin at midfield but he is injured.We are stuck with Menton out of position and either O'Brien or flanagan."
Unfortunately ziggy32001 that is a major problem, look at the club scene there is no stand out mid fielder in the county nor as there been for some time. Its very unfair on poor Menton expecting him to play midfield. We are robbing the half back line of someone who would be an addition and not really getting any benefit from him at midfield. I think Keogan, Menton and Ford should be the half backs, Midfield G Reilly, Flanagan (If fit). Half forwards, O'Sullivan, Paddy Kennelly, McMahon. I would also start F Ward as Full Forward. Ye I know its not great but I do think it would be better than what was on display yesterday.

anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 06/02/2017 17:28:48    1952894

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "1.Hannigan
2.Keoghan
3.McGill
4.Burke
5.Downey
6.Menton
7.Forde
8.Flanagan
9.O'Brien
10.O'Sullivan
11.Bobby O'Brien
12.Biggy
13.Wallace
14.Newman
15.Lenihan"
How many more times do we need to see McGill get roasted by a full forward before we try someone else? I'd suggest put Menton there and start Flanagan midfield

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 06/02/2017 18:04:01    1952913

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