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Replying To bobkarlgees: "I agree he is is our best defender. But man marking is not his greatest asset he gives his man to much room by times. He was destroyed by Conor Mcmanus in the league a few years ago in the leagues while trying to man mark. He is at his best when his hands on the ball and going forward." So he's no a good man marker but he's the best one we have!!!!! My head hurts. Every corner back has one player who gets the best of them. McManus caught him in games early in the season during the league Johnny Doyle, Bernard Brogan etc rarely got a sniff off Donal in recent years. Same for a lot of other corner forwards. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 03/02/2017 11:52:59 1951493 Link
Replying To brian: "So he's no a good man marker but he's the best one we have!!!!! My head hurts. Every corner back has one player who gets the best of them. McManus caught him in games early in the season during the league Johnny Doyle, Bernard Brogan etc rarely got a sniff off Donal in recent years. Same for a lot of other corner forwards." As I have said on here many times before, no corner back is a good man marker if he is not getting support from further out the field. If a player out the field is given enough time on the ball, without being pressurised, then the corner forward can make a couple of different runs, and have the ball landed on a plate in front of him. There is very little the defender can do. Refs now are told to pick up on the sly jersey pulls etc that corner backs traditionally used to slow down the corner forward, so they can't rely on that either. Likewise if two or three lads of the opposition are descending in on the full back line, without their men tracking back, then the full back line will be outnumbered and can do very little. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 03/02/2017 13:53:04 1951547 Link
anfearbeag (Meath) -I would agree and add that no matter how good your fullback line is there is little they can do if someone is constantly coming thru the middle unmarked (you may be able to cope with it once or twice in a match but not if it is happening continuously). browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/02/2017 14:20:19 1951561 Link
Replying To srgt_slaughter: "i'm being realistic here, obviously i want us back at the top table but not before we're ready, we have to run before we walk. im thinking more long term than short term here, need to get our own house in order with proper structure through our underage system so that we can constantly compete at the top level. no point staying in div 1 for a year or two to come crashing down through the divisions, that benefits no one" What this structure your on about. Give examples of what Meath need to do. Line them out 1,2,3 etc. This structure stuff always intrigues me. I wait in antispation numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 03/02/2017 17:14:23 1951616 Link
I expect 10 points so I expect and hope that 2 are delivered Sunday and I believe that will happen. Meath by 4 numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 03/02/2017 17:26:16 1951620 Link
Replying To anfearbeag: "As I have said on here many times before, no corner back is a good man marker if he is not getting support from further out the field. If a player out the field is given enough time on the ball, without being pressurised, then the corner forward can make a couple of different runs, and have the ball landed on a plate in front of him. There is very little the defender can do. Refs now are told to pick up on the sly jersey pulls etc that corner backs traditionally used to slow down the corner forward, so they can't rely on that either. Likewise if two or three lads of the opposition are descending in on the full back line, without their men tracking back, then the full back line will be outnumbered and can do very little." Do a Mark O'Reilly and just stand on the toes of the man you are marking. :) ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/02/2017 18:37:58 1951639 Link
* Figure out our best 15 and their best positions * Find a free taker, what ever our other failings within the county, I believe we have enough candidates to act as a free taker, any free within 45 yard line should result in a score (we can carry someone on the team if need). *** Aim to develop a game plan to compete with the Dubs and the top end teams. I know we wont get there in one season. We have never even looked like competing with the big guns in the past 16 years. We have no excuse, Monaghan have done it within this time period with two different teams so there is hope, ok they have never got to the summit but with a bit of luck they may have. Andy Mcentee should forget about league position and focus on developing a style of play to compete with the best. Division 2 is going to be tight this year and I don't see anyone running away with the league or rolling over. Would like to see us tightening up deference and being more economical in front of goal. I know we have some huge issues but If Andy Mcentee can get the best out of this group of players then what more can you ask for? Best of Luck for Sunday. NAIL_BAR (Meath)** - Posts: 457 - 03/02/2017 20:01:11 1951663 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: "I agree he is is our best defender. But man marking is not his greatest asset he gives his man to much room by times. He was destroyed by Conor Mcmanus in the league a few years ago in the leagues while trying to man mark. He is at his best when his hands on the ball and going forward." Think the game you're referring to is the division 3 league final where McManus had a stormer. Just in case you are forgetting, Keoghan didn't play that day because he had college exams ..... LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 03/02/2017 20:02:20 1951664 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Don't think Cavan or Roscommon are as good as you think , futhermore we could hold our own in midtable of division one. Again look at Donegal game only for poor judgement we would have done more than draw." Would you come off it.. hold our own in Division 1? On what basis do you make that assumption? From all our sustained years in Division 1?? From all our All Star players each season?? From our big and consistent wins?? From all those beatings we have given Dublin, Kerry and Mayo year in year out?? Are you actually for real.. Meath have been consistentry shocking in the league for the last 10 year's that teams have gone from Div.4 to Div.1 and back down again and been replaced again by teams doing the same i.e. Monaghan, Cavan, Roscommon, Westmeath. Since this league format (2008) Meath have finished lower half in each season except for 14 and 15 (3rd) For a man who attend's all the games you say you do, your memory is quite poor on form. Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 03/02/2017 21:16:48 1951687 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Think the game you're referring to is the division 3 league final where McManus had a stormer. Just in case you are forgetting, Keoghan didn't play that day because he had college exams ....." Nope the one in Monaghan in the leauge when we lost by about 10 points. Listen I think keoghans is a excellent player excellent defender but sometimes he can give his marker to much time and space to gather the ball. He could be tigher to his man. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 03/02/2017 21:23:16 1951692 Link
Replying To Royalio11: "Would you come off it.. hold our own in Division 1? On what basis do you make that assumption? From all our sustained years in Division 1?? From all our All Star players each season?? From our big and consistent wins?? From all those beatings we have given Dublin, Kerry and Mayo year in year out?? Are you actually for real.. Meath have been consistentry shocking in the league for the last 10 year's that teams have gone from Div.4 to Div.1 and back down again and been replaced again by teams doing the same i.e. Monaghan, Cavan, Roscommon, Westmeath. Since this league format (2008) Meath have finished lower half in each season except for 14 and 15 (3rd) For a man who attend's all the games you say you do, your memory is quite poor on form." Not from one of them. From the fact we have a competent manager, something we didn't have in those previous years , so done quite well considering. So maybe you need to check out our new and improved managent team. Look up Andy mcentee, like a good lad. Niw off you pop. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2017 00:10:07 1951722 Link
Replying To NAIL_BAR: "* Figure out our best 15 and their best positions * Find a free taker, what ever our other failings within the county, I believe we have enough candidates to act as a free taker, any free within 45 yard line should result in a score (we can carry someone on the team if need). *** Aim to develop a game plan to compete with the Dubs and the top end teams. I know we wont get there in one season. We have never even looked like competing with the big guns in the past 16 years. We have no excuse, Monaghan have done it within this time period with two different teams so there is hope, ok they have never got to the summit but with a bit of luck they may have. Andy Mcentee should forget about league position and focus on developing a style of play to compete with the best. Division 2 is going to be tight this year and I don't see anyone running away with the league or rolling over. Would like to see us tightening up deference and being more economical in front of goal. I know we have some huge issues but If Andy Mcentee can get the best out of this group of players then what more can you ask for? Best of Luck for Sunday. " Good post but I would hoping Andy is focusing on the League. And making it more of a priority than the championship. bobkarlgees (Meath)** - Posts: 1263 - 04/02/2017 08:32:05 1951735 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Not from one of them. From the fact we have a competent manager, something we didn't have in those previous years , so done quite well considering. So maybe you need to check out our new and improved managent team. Look up Andy mcentee, like a good lad. Niw off you pop." What a great responce ! Makes so much sense ! Not grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 04/02/2017 08:44:54 1951744 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Not from one of them. From the fact we have a competent manager, something we didn't have in those previous years , so done quite well considering. So maybe you need to check out our new and improved managent team. Look up Andy mcentee, like a good lad. Niw off you pop." Please enlighten me on Andy McEntees senior inter-county management highlights? Can you give me a break down on his National Football League credentials? No you can't, because he is completely unproven at this level. So Royaldunne less pipe talk and more acceptance of the facts as they are. Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 04/02/2017 09:20:25 1951755 Link
Our best player, only modern player who would get into 1999 team and people still complaining about him. Keoghan is a class act. Hes the best man marker in the country. db9 (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 04/02/2017 11:47:25 1951780 Link
Replying To Royalio11: "Please enlighten me on Andy McEntees senior inter-county management highlights? Can you give me a break down on his National Football League credentials? No you can't, because he is completely unproven at this level. So Royaldunne less pipe talk and more acceptance of the facts as they are." Agreed grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 04/02/2017 15:22:46 1951816 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "Agreed" Royaldunne is speechless so he is using his multiple accounts to red thumb Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 04/02/2017 16:15:07 1951823 Link
Replying To Royalio11: "Please enlighten me on Andy McEntees senior inter-county management highlights? Can you give me a break down on his National Football League credentials? No you can't, because he is completely unproven at this level. So Royaldunne less pipe talk and more acceptance of the facts as they are." Well since you don't know Andy pedigree I'll happily educate you. Andy brought Meath minors to both Leinster and all ire final, only loosing out to perhaps the best minor team in decades, beating the likes of Mayo and Tyrone along the way , who you and others seem to think have great young talent coming through from those teams that Andy's team beat. Go figure. Also he brought the 5th favourite team in Dublin senior championship to not only win that but also Leinster and all ire. But sure yourself and grahammc would do a better job since you are such experts . or better still let's bring back mod, I can see the banners now. After all look at his creditials royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2017 17:01:38 1951833 Link
Replying To Royalio11: "Royaldunne is speechless so he is using his multiple accounts to red thumb" ahh ye can't beat a inferiority complex, good lad. Haha. Sorry my friend I not only don't have any other account I don't ever give thumbs down as I find it childish (you probably do) if I disagree I'll post my counter argument, I won't give a nonsense thumbs down. Sorry you better look elsewhere for those who think your posts are nonsense royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2017 17:21:54 1951840 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "What a great responce ! Makes so much sense ! Not" I can't help you if you can't make sense out of clear comment. Sorry. :( royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2017 18:00:28 1951851 Link