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Expectations for league?

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Replying To brian:  "With the right set of results we also could've gone up too, thats why people are saying it
Its neither here nor there anyways as we didn't do the business ourselves."
We never really looked like promotion though and luckily Laois had a player sent off,otherwise we would be in dv3 as we speak.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/01/2017 15:09:26    1948969

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Replying To brian:  "With the right set of results we also could've gone up too, thats why people are saying it
Its neither here nor there anyways as we didn't do the business ourselves."
But with the right set of results last year we would of won the All Ireland. It was clear by the third game we were not in a promotion fight.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 26/01/2017 15:27:21    1948974

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Replying To Foley91:  "Have to say that I have rarely seen Meath play well in Navan. I dont know why this is but I dont see playing in navan as being any great advantage to Meath and other teams never fear coming here. i remember years ago and this could be well before some on the lads on here were around but meath use to play games in kells and seemed to like it. i think this was when Navan was being renovated.

As a matter of interest where will meath play when navan is being renovated"
Ahh kells was a great spot. I remember the raffle for a turkey at HT, as league games were played prior to Christmas. Great memories

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/01/2017 17:12:21    1949011

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I expect us to be far more competitive and in with a shot at promotion.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 26/01/2017 17:47:47    1949026

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Expectations? I would expect to be promoted. If not, I will take stock then.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/01/2017 18:14:25    1949036

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In the report by the infrastructure committee 3 or 4 years ago it said the following (phase 1 was installing barriers in the terrace):

Phase 2 of Páirc Tailteann should be the development of the end terraces to ensure we maintain capacity when the main works take place at the venue. The timing of this phase is dependent on the finances and the costs of the earlier works.

Phase 3 of Páirc Tailteann should be the provision of facilities such as two dressing rooms. Showers, medical/physio room and broadcasting facilities on the Northern Terrace (opposite the stand). This will minimise dimunition to capacity when work on the main stand is being carried out and will be part of the finished stadium.

Phase 4 of Páirc Tailteann should be the replacement of the existing stand with a modern one built to the highest standards.

So from the looks of it they don't plan to use any alternative grounds in the meantime, since they'll always have a large capacity available to them in the terrace. It won't be enough for Leinster Championship games but should do for league matches and club games.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 26/01/2017 18:50:42    1949046

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "In the report by the infrastructure committee 3 or 4 years ago it said the following (phase 1 was installing barriers in the terrace):

Phase 2 of Páirc Tailteann should be the development of the end terraces to ensure we maintain capacity when the main works take place at the venue. The timing of this phase is dependent on the finances and the costs of the earlier works.

Phase 3 of Páirc Tailteann should be the provision of facilities such as two dressing rooms. Showers, medical/physio room and broadcasting facilities on the Northern Terrace (opposite the stand). This will minimise dimunition to capacity when work on the main stand is being carried out and will be part of the finished stadium.

Phase 4 of Páirc Tailteann should be the replacement of the existing stand with a modern one built to the highest standards.

So from the looks of it they don't plan to use any alternative grounds in the meantime, since they'll always have a large capacity available to them in the terrace. It won't be enough for Leinster Championship games but should do for league matches and club games."
fair poins mate but i think the plans are they'll rotate the ground 90 degrees so the whole place will need to be redone.

Being from Kells and growing up an era when Meath played home matches in the town i never understood why matches went back to Pairc Tailteann. I remember sitting on the wall in the Park and having the teams come flying up the hill from the dressing room and coming through the crowds to get to the pitch. Fairly unique setting all told.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 27/01/2017 09:00:51    1949130

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Replying To brian:  "
Replying To CastleBravo:  "In the report by the infrastructure committee 3 or 4 years ago it said the following (phase 1 was installing barriers in the terrace):

Phase 2 of Páirc Tailteann should be the development of the end terraces to ensure we maintain capacity when the main works take place at the venue. The timing of this phase is dependent on the finances and the costs of the earlier works.

Phase 3 of Páirc Tailteann should be the provision of facilities such as two dressing rooms. Showers, medical/physio room and broadcasting facilities on the Northern Terrace (opposite the stand). This will minimise dimunition to capacity when work on the main stand is being carried out and will be part of the finished stadium.

Phase 4 of Páirc Tailteann should be the replacement of the existing stand with a modern one built to the highest standards.

So from the looks of it they don't plan to use any alternative grounds in the meantime, since they'll always have a large capacity available to them in the terrace. It won't be enough for Leinster Championship games but should do for league matches and club games."
fair poins mate but i think the plans are they'll rotate the ground 90 degrees so the whole place will need to be redone.

Being from Kells and growing up an era when Meath played home matches in the town i never understood why matches went back to Pairc Tailteann. I remember sitting on the wall in the Park and having the teams come flying up the hill from the dressing room and coming through the crowds to get to the pitch. Fairly unique setting all told."
My point was somewhat lost in the nostalgia there lads. I'm not for one minute suggesting that we play our matches in Kells.
I raised the issue to highlight how bad our teams are in Navan and what can be done to improve or performances.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 27/01/2017 12:07:06    1949175

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Home advantage in the league is massive so this year affords an opportunity to push for promotion as we have 4 matches at home. The first match against Kildare is a real 4 pointer in that a win sets us on the right path but a defeat immediately switches the mood and atmosphere in a negative way. Kildare are at a very similiar stage to ourselves and will also be hoping to start off with a win. I think its imperative that we win our first match and I'm sure the management team will be looking for a performance full of fire and passion on front of the home crowd and hopefully we will get the win and start off the campaign on a positive note and start thinking about promotion rather than already fearing the dreaded drop !!

Royal_Rover (Meath) - Posts: 72 - 27/01/2017 12:28:03    1949182

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Its going to be interesting to see how we start the league against Kildare. Looking at the O'byrne cup it wouldn't exactly inspire any confidence that we can turns things around (even taking into account the O'Byrne is only warm up games). I hope I am wrong, but at the moment I am wondering where the scores are going to come from. So there is a lot work to do, if we are to beat Kildare.
Its hard to know but I think promotion is beyond us at this stage. I am think a mid table finish maybe. I think we are missing players that can dig it out of the fire when things get tough. Which will be needed if we are gain promotion. Solid performances ,the team playing to a plan,a few new players making a break though would be good enough. For this year.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 27/01/2017 15:18:45    1949234

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I don't think Meath are going anywhere fast and I worry for potential banana skins.

Before after the season in division 3. Meath couldnt buy a win on the road - this hasnt changed.

No fire power up front.

No midfield.

Pourus defence.

I get more disillusioned each year. A good teams needs some sort of strong areas. Meath has none.

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 27/01/2017 20:28:19    1949328

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "for me we just don't have enough in the inside forward line to gain promotion imo.Be great if some player proved me wrong."
That's it ziggy, we do have good players up front but we haven't had a consistent marquee forward probably since Geraghty retired. I'm hoping McEntee can get more out of what we do have though.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 27/01/2017 22:40:49    1949354

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Another feature similar to last year is disjointed play. Too many turnovers in possession and this will not be good enough against the big teams. Kildare are still a decent outfit and it will be hard to break down their defence. A loss in round one leaves us playing catch up and I don't see points being earned on the road.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 27/01/2017 23:59:21    1949362

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Replying To Htaem:  "That's it ziggy, we do have good players up front but we haven't had a consistent marquee forward probably since Geraghty retired. I'm hoping McEntee can get more out of what we do have though."
Bray,Sheridan,Ward were they not marquee forwards. If we had them now......

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 28/01/2017 06:47:57    1949371

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Replying To Htaem:  "That's it ziggy, we do have good players up front but we haven't had a consistent marquee forward probably since Geraghty retired. I'm hoping McEntee can get more out of what we do have though."
Bit harsh on stephen bray every bit as good as geraghty on his day! And never caused as much bother as him

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 28/01/2017 07:50:37    1949373

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I suppose in fairness it is too early to say where we might end up. So far no improvement from last few years in fact pathetic. However, maybe 10%of excuses may be valid poor talent pool,too early in year as still team building.Andy not afraid to admit he is not happy at present .Might be better able to answer where we may finish in league after Kildare Match ,assuning no more players like Rooney,S o Rourke walk away ,and Flanagan makes a successful return from injury. To make that call now well it would be a miracle if we were promoted....but we live in hope.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 28/01/2017 09:19:14    1949377

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Replying To nobull456:  "I suppose in fairness it is too early to say where we might end up. So far no improvement from last few years in fact pathetic. However, maybe 10%of excuses may be valid poor talent pool,too early in year as still team building.Andy not afraid to admit he is not happy at present .Might be better able to answer where we may finish in league after Kildare Match ,assuning no more players like Rooney,S o Rourke walk away ,and Flanagan makes a successful return from injury. To make that call now well it would be a miracle if we were promoted....but we live in hope."
no improvement? We haven't had a proper game yet! Plus SOR didn't walk away,he has being crippled by injury and can only train twice a week.Give him a break..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/01/2017 11:20:14    1949389

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I've been told the lads are playing a challenge against Tipp this evening. Bit surprising with the game next week, hopefully no injuries.

Meathgaa5 (Meath) - Posts: 339 - 28/01/2017 12:40:53    1949404

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "no improvement? We haven't had a proper game yet! Plus SOR didn't walk away,he has being crippled by injury and can only train twice a week.Give him a break.."
Expected to see players giving everything during these trial matches. Did not see that....but then maybe some players are not prepared to go that far to get the jersey. Thats ok better to find that out now than later. No excuses accepted now! Shane o Rourke injury may be a factor to some extent maybe, but putting his career path first is ok also.Who could blame him? All emerging players are lucky to have a role model in Donal K...., commitment never in question...never looks for excuses. Ah well ,who knows maybe next match all players will give it everything and thus wear the jersey with pride? Mistakes accepted but lack of effort definately not.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 28/01/2017 12:55:22    1949406

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Replying To nobull456:  "Expected to see players giving everything during these trial matches. Did not see that....but then maybe some players are not prepared to go that far to get the jersey. Thats ok better to find that out now than later. No excuses accepted now! Shane o Rourke injury may be a factor to some extent maybe, but putting his career path first is ok also.Who could blame him? All emerging players are lucky to have a role model in Donal K...., commitment never in question...never looks for excuses. Ah well ,who knows maybe next match all players will give it everything and thus wear the jersey with pride? Mistakes accepted but lack of effort definately not."
The players have been giving it everything.The only match were it looked like they weren't was Louth.But they had a heavy weeks of training surely you can't be that blind?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/01/2017 14:04:05    1949417

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