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New Meath jersey

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Replying To royaldunne:  "That's what the call nail on the head.
At the moment we are a risk for any company, and cannot expect sponsorship of the top 8 counties, its a gamble, now if Andy manages to get us into division one and last 8 of championship for next 3 years, this will have been a steal for new sponsor, and in 3 years we can look for 250k per year at least. But to use the auld adage , we are where we are."
I see the football jerseys are now at reduced price on O'Neill's website, hurling jerseys still normal price, hope we don't see different designs for both codes I would rather one design covering all county teams

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/12/2016 00:32:40    1940739

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I'd expect to see the current jersey with the just the change of sponsor.
I think we did that previously when Comer came in first.

Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 18/12/2016 15:20:34    1940805

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Replying To Royal_Gunner:  "I'd expect to see the current jersey with the just the change of sponsor.
I think we did that previously when Comer came in first."
No we got a new Jersey for 2009 with menolly homes on it, dark green with 3 stripes on the sleeves and a couple of yellow lines on the bottom, but for 2010 when comer cane in we had another completely new Jersey. Predominantly yellow sleeves and a larger yellow design at the bottom.
Same thing with Dublin in 2009, new Jersey for just that year and new sponsor brought a new Jersey.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6343 - 18/12/2016 15:52:02    1940812

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Replying To Royal_Gunner:  "I'd expect to see the current jersey with the just the change of sponsor.
I think we did that previously when Comer came in first."
From a commercial point of view the new sponsor will want a completely different design from the current jersey.

If the design stays the same everyone will be wearing Tayto Park jerseys to Meath games this year, new design will mean more jerseys sales and increased exposure for the new sponsor. If the design stays the same Tayto Park will likely get more exposure than the new sponsor which isn't fair considering the amount of money being put in.

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 19/12/2016 09:00:55    1940897

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Replying To Richieq:  "I see the football jerseys are now at reduced price on O'Neill's website, hurling jerseys still normal price, hope we don't see different designs for both codes I would rather one design covering all county teams"
I'd imagine if they do change the design on the Jersey they will likely change the hurling jersey also

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 19/12/2016 12:04:28    1940933

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A sponsor (promoting a speciality product) is only really concerned with having their brand name on the kit the players (not supporters) are wearing, particularly TV coverage and media/newspaper photos. I see no real need to change a design which is fresh and is generally liked. If it ain't broke don't fix it. They are more than welcome to tweak the current design now or go for a complete redesign in future years if they so wish. I associate the previous sponsor more with the darker green jersey (old design) than the current one. As a performance and results-based supporter, I'm happy with just my hat (timeless)!

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 19/12/2016 14:32:05    1940964

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You can be sure they'll release a new jersey in the spring. If they just put the new sponsor on the old jersey nobody would buy it, and jersey sales to the public are a major part of sponsorship. It's like buying thousands of walking billboards for your company. I can't find any examples here of a sponsor changing but the jersey staying the same: http://www.prideinthejersey.com/jerseysindex.html

If the football jersey changes, so will the hurling, it's always been that way. As an aside, one thing that puzzles me slightly is the fact the hurling jerseys have the 7 stars on the back for the football All Irelands won. While I don't buy the idea that having 7 stars on the jersey inspires the footballers or makes them feel a connection to past glory, I certainly don't buy the idea that it belongs on the hurling jersey.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 19/12/2016 18:34:35    1941016

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CB, yes some sponsors would benefit from walking billboards, but others not so much. It depends on what products or services they are marketing and to whom. Are they (mass-market) products and services the average joe consumes, e.g. crisps, car/home/business insurance (AIG), mobile phone contracts (02) or something far more niche/specialised like products for the agri industry.

A brand new jersey design will no doubt sell more initially, than just a change in sponsor only, but that would be more to the benefit of Meath GAA, O'Neills and retailers; so will probably happen :). As an expanding international company, the new sponsor obviously wants to raise their profile, both nationally and internationally. So hopefully getting more and more TV coverage on RTE and Sky over the next few years (if promoted to D1 and getting to the business end of the championship annually) is what makes a sponsorship deal productive for them. They are obviously hoping like all of us that we are about to enter a whole new positive era over the coming years. The AndyMc and feel good factor will help sales of a newly sponsored jersey whether it is the current one or an all-new design, especially if the league campaign goes well.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 19/12/2016 21:14:59    1941042

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Emailed o Neil's no word on there end on jersey still waiting on county board to get back to them

MeathOnHill16 (Meath) - Posts: 226 - 03/01/2017 16:33:11    1942821

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Replying To MeathOnHill16:  "Emailed o Neil's no word on there end on jersey still waiting on county board to get back to them"
I was up in O'Neill's store in Walkinstown yesterday and last year's jersey reduced to €25 for anyone who is interested in picking it up. Wouldn't be a jersey-buyer myself at this stage but it was the nicest one they've had in a while. I hope they keep it simple. And knowing O'Neill's they will (not renowned for drastic changes - see 'new' Westmeath jersey for example.)

I really liked the 'interim' shirt they had when they switched from Menolly to Comer - the one with the yellow sleeves. Though I think I'm in the minority on that one.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 03/01/2017 17:35:00    1942833

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Is there any speculation on Meath GAA joining Masita as they are based in Meath and they have nice gear.
As a Mayo man it be nice to other jerseys makers coming to keep O'Neills on their toes.

footie16 (Mayo) - Posts: 222 - 03/01/2017 17:50:59    1942840

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Replying To footie16:  "Is there any speculation on Meath GAA joining Masita as they are based in Meath and they have nice gear.
As a Mayo man it be nice to other jerseys makers coming to keep O'Neills on their toes."
Nice idea but Masita jerseys are not that great.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 04/01/2017 09:39:11    1942966

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Personally I'd love to see a few international companies coming in. O'Neill's have had it far too easy for too long & this is reflected in a lot of their business dealings...

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 04/01/2017 23:32:41    1943148

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International brands is not going to happen according to the GAA rules.
Only Azzurri, KC Sport, Kukri, Masita can compete against O'Neills and Masita are well capable as they have lovely gear.

footie16 (Mayo) - Posts: 222 - 05/01/2017 10:27:56    1943181

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Replying To footie16:  "International brands is not going to happen according to the GAA rules.
Only Azzurri, KC Sport, Kukri, Masita can compete against O'Neills and Masita are well capable as they have lovely gear."
Remember when Kerry pulled the stroke and had Adidas then 'Millfield'. Cute hoors...

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 05/01/2017 11:51:59    1943196

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Replying To footie16:  "International brands is not going to happen according to the GAA rules.
Only Azzurri, KC Sport, Kukri, Masita can compete against O'Neills and Masita are well capable as they have lovely gear."
Prohibition of international brands is a joke.

Why is this a rule?

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 05/01/2017 12:19:07    1943200

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Replying To bert09:  "Prohibition of international brands is a joke.

Why is this a rule?"
Probably because it would be another way for Dublin to accumulate even more sponsorship money. I can see where the GAA are coming from on this one.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 05/01/2017 12:42:29    1943204

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Replying To GlasgowRoyal:  "Probably because it would be another way for Dublin to accumulate even more sponsorship money. I can see where the GAA are coming from on this one."
If any EU based company was interested in entering the market, it would be fairly easy for them to get this rule changed. Its completely against the EU's freedom of trade laws - you can't discriminate against a company from any other EU country.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 05/01/2017 13:32:10    1943228

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Replying To GlasgowRoyal:  "Probably because it would be another way for Dublin to accumulate even more sponsorship money. I can see where the GAA are coming from on this one."
That would be somewhat applicable if this rule was new, but it's been around for years - probably as long as the GAA itself. I think that the rule is/was the jerseys had to be made in Ireland, so I think that's how Kerry got around it back in 97/98 (whenever they used Adidas) because I think there was a factory down that part of the world.

I seems a bit antiquated at this point. I'm surprised a big intl company hasn't made a really strong effort to break into the market. But maybe they've crunched the numbers and it wouldn't pay them except in the case of Dublin and possibly Mayo/Kerry/Kilkenny.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 05/01/2017 14:39:24    1943253

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Replying To anfearbeag:  "If any EU based company was interested in entering the market, it would be fairly easy for them to get this rule changed. Its completely against the EU's freedom of trade laws - you can't discriminate against a company from any other EU country."
I take your point and they could take the GAA to task on the rule, but I don't think any team would be under any obligation to take them on board and, as suggested in the thread that followed this one, given the way football has gone recently, an international company would probably only be interested in the likes of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry. I think it's good to have Irish companies making the jerseys of those partaking in Irish sports.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 05/01/2017 17:22:17    1943295

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