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O'Dowd slams pundits who "rip decent people apart"

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Well to be fair I agree that people shouldn't be verbally abusing him at matches.Totally wrong.."
No verbal abuse should be put on anyone, anything personal is totally over board, that been said criticism of performance and tactics is fair game, as they in that position. Never personal though. I am sure mod believed that he was upto the job and that he could do it, it weren't to be though and others should have put a stop to it sooner.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/07/2016 11:39:40    1881649

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No verbal abuse should be put on anyone, anything personal is totally over board, that been said criticism of performance and tactics is fair game, as they in that position. Never personal though. I am sure mod believed that he was upto the job and that he could do it, it weren't to be though and others should have put a stop to it sooner."
or even call micky mouse, cause at this stage even the Disney character would do a better job than mod, luckily I was on far side of grounds. >> your comment on another thread RD. You go on about verbal abuse being wrong, so I wondered what your "luckily I was on the other side of the ground" comment is referring to? It seems to imply that if you were on MOD's side you'd have been making your feelings known?

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 12/07/2016 12:27:07    1881707

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Mod did get away with murder , hood winked the county board into keeping him for 4 years but. no mentor shouldn't be abused - He was shielded by chronicle and national media couldn't be bothered as they clearly could see he wasn't going to deliver .
Anyway why is he only now saying this type of thing now ?maybe if he was more vocal and gritty during his reign the players might of picked it up of him and transferred it to the game , - too late
For anything to matter

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 12/07/2016 12:59:27    1881750

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barneystie , as you yourself have done on many occasions , people blow hot air . In a verbal world its easy to get your merssage across , but in a written world its a lot more difficult . Thus the extreme sentiments from RD .Noting scurrilous meant I reckon

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 12/07/2016 17:42:50    1882019

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "barneystie , as you yourself have done on many occasions , people blow hot air . In a verbal world its easy to get your merssage across , but in a written world its a lot more difficult . Thus the extreme sentiments from RD .Noting scurrilous meant I reckon"
I'm sure RD is capable of speaking for himself...

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 12/07/2016 17:53:25    1882024

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Replying To BarneysTie:  "or even call micky mouse, cause at this stage even the Disney character would do a better job than mod, luckily I was on far side of grounds. >> your comment on another thread RD. You go on about verbal abuse being wrong, so I wondered what your "luckily I was on the other side of the ground" comment is referring to? It seems to imply that if you were on MOD's side you'd have been making your feelings known?"
Let me be very clear, I wrote that on way out of Derry, after driving over 3 hours (I have a longer journey than most) and I was furious about another disaster, that been said, I actually think Micky mouse would have done as good as job, that's not personal, its a critique of his management skills,
And if I was on far side I would have said to him to do the decent thing and step down, again nothing personal, a nice man by all accounts but not cut out to be a ic manager, , anyone could see that. And perhaps if someone had actually said it to him beforehand then maybe it would have helped, in particularly for mod,

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/07/2016 22:06:52    1882186

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "barneystie , as you yourself have done on many occasions , people blow hot air . In a verbal world its easy to get your merssage across , but in a written world its a lot more difficult . Thus the extreme sentiments from RD .Noting scurrilous meant I reckon"
Indeed, as anyone on here would attest to I don't get personal, thanks for for that cus.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/07/2016 22:09:49    1882188

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Indeed, as anyone on here would attest to I don't get personal, thanks for for that cus."
That's cool, I was just curious...

I wonder how quickly things will move. No CB meeting until beginning of August so it'll probably be Oct/Nov before someone is appointed. Surely there's a case to be made for having a 'emergency' (if that's not too strong a word) meeting to get the ball rolling before August.

BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 13/07/2016 08:55:59    1882312

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Maybe MOD was referring to posters on here.

The few in Owenbeg who made it there business to verbally abuse MOD after the full time whistle need to take a good hard luck at themselves and have no place in the GAA. This is not soccer where the solution is to oust the manager to solve all problems. MOD time was up when this year finished, everyone knew that, but these players are getting away very lightly, no bottle and no leadership on the field.

If Jim McGuinness took the Meath job, with Gavin, Boylan and Mickey Harte as selectors we still wouldn't get near a Leinster or All Ireland. We don't have the players. I'd suggest all us experts on here get involved at underage level with our local clubs, put something into Meath football and hopefully we will yield a return in the next 10 years

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 13/07/2016 10:49:02    1882389

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Replying To begining:  "Maybe MOD was referring to posters on here.

The few in Owenbeg who made it there business to verbally abuse MOD after the full time whistle need to take a good hard luck at themselves and have no place in the GAA. This is not soccer where the solution is to oust the manager to solve all problems. MOD time was up when this year finished, everyone knew that, but these players are getting away very lightly, no bottle and no leadership on the field.

If Jim McGuinness took the Meath job, with Gavin, Boylan and Mickey Harte as selectors we still wouldn't get near a Leinster or All Ireland. We don't have the players. I'd suggest all us experts on here get involved at underage level with our local clubs, put something into Meath football and hopefully we will yield a return in the next 10 years"
No one is saying we will win a all Ireland, we are better though than we have been achieving lately, that is all anyone is saying

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/07/2016 11:24:54    1882413

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Replying To begining:  "Maybe MOD was referring to posters on here.

The few in Owenbeg who made it there business to verbally abuse MOD after the full time whistle need to take a good hard luck at themselves and have no place in the GAA. This is not soccer where the solution is to oust the manager to solve all problems. MOD time was up when this year finished, everyone knew that, but these players are getting away very lightly, no bottle and no leadership on the field.

If Jim McGuinness took the Meath job, with Gavin, Boylan and Mickey Harte as selectors we still wouldn't get near a Leinster or All Ireland. We don't have the players. I'd suggest all us experts on here get involved at underage level with our local clubs, put something into Meath football and hopefully we will yield a return in the next 10 years"
I have no time for people dishing out verbal abuse to MOD and the players definitely have to take some responsibility, but it's wholly false to claim a better manager wouldn't get more out of the players at his disposal. A good manager will play his players in their best position, make the right substitutions and get every last drop of skill and talent out of them.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 14/07/2016 10:34:21    1882958

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Replying To begining:  "Maybe MOD was referring to posters on here.

The few in Owenbeg who made it there business to verbally abuse MOD after the full time whistle need to take a good hard luck at themselves and have no place in the GAA. This is not soccer where the solution is to oust the manager to solve all problems. MOD time was up when this year finished, everyone knew that, but these players are getting away very lightly, no bottle and no leadership on the field.

If Jim McGuinness took the Meath job, with Gavin, Boylan and Mickey Harte as selectors we still wouldn't get near a Leinster or All Ireland. We don't have the players. I'd suggest all us experts on here get involved at underage level with our local clubs, put something into Meath football and hopefully we will yield a return in the next 10 years"
I am involved in my local club........

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 14/07/2016 11:43:16    1883008

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It runs a lot deeper than MOD, the rot was setting in after 2010. .Some say a fluke win over Dublin, followed by the louth debacle, the previous Co board switched off at underage. .you reap what you sow

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 15/07/2016 10:43:23    1883694

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We will happily take O Dowd in Kildare if things dont work out with O Neill. think he did a good job with an average meath team. just send him over the bridge in Kilcock and ill meet him there..

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 15/07/2016 11:02:30    1883717

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Replying To 11jm11:  "We will happily take O Dowd in Kildare if things dont work out with O Neill. think he did a good job with an average meath team. just send him over the bridge in Kilcock and ill meet him there.."
Your welcome to him. :).
All you will need to do is get a motion passed at congress reducing game times to 35 mins and Kildare will be all ire champions.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/07/2016 13:20:49    1883811

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Replying To 11jm11:  "We will happily take O Dowd in Kildare if things dont work out with O Neill. think he did a good job with an average meath team. just send him over the bridge in Kilcock and ill meet him there.."
Clearly taking the mickey :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/07/2016 13:58:29    1883842

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Your welcome to him. :).
All you will need to do is get a motion passed at congress reducing game times to 35 mins and Kildare will be all ire champions."
To his credit i dont think too many teams will get within 10 points of dublin like meath did 2 weeks ago. also meath were unlucky v Tyrone in last years championship, could have nicked a result up there against a top top side. and the 1st half v westmeath in 2015 was the best meath performance ive seen in a long long time.

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 15/07/2016 14:57:24    1883880

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Replying To 11jm11:  "To his credit i dont think too many teams will get within 10 points of dublin like meath did 2 weeks ago. also meath were unlucky v Tyrone in last years championship, could have nicked a result up there against a top top side. and the 1st half v westmeath in 2015 was the best meath performance ive seen in a long long time."
But then there is the other displays...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/07/2016 17:39:47    1883986

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The negative comments about the outgoing manager show a lack of understanding about Gaelic Football developments over the last 20 years. Some counties put a massive effort into development at a very young age then and now like Dublin are rewarded. Meath did not except in pockets. Those pockets like Ashbourne, Dunboyne are now Senior Contenders when they were traditionally of a lower grade. Other parts of Meath no longer supply County Players as in the past. The County as a wholw was bound to suffer.
The present CB and team management cannot possibly be to blame for the situation they came into and in fairness put a big effort into trying to turn it.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 15/07/2016 18:59:16    1884024

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Replying To 11jm11:  "We will happily take O Dowd in Kildare if things dont work out with O Neill. think he did a good job with an average meath team. just send him over the bridge in Kilcock and ill meet him there.."
What exactly did he do?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 15/07/2016 20:15:06    1884057

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