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Killyon Navan - Killyon by 6 - Navan nothing to play for but pride. Killyon flying and should top group Longwood Kildalkey - Longwood by 2- Kildalkey missing Ducksy badly, 2 healy's are back for longwood Trim Kilmessan - Kilmessan by 3, but Trim will go down fighting although struggling at the minute, Toher Heffernan Douglas can beat anyone if on form Kiltale Athboy - Kiltale by 25 - Turkey Shoot, Clann na nGael worst senior team in years against the best around at the minute Dunboyne Dunderry - Dunboyne by 2 - Will be closer than people think, dunboyne not the team they were Boardsmill Blackhall - Blackhall by 10 - blackhall will have a big say in championship yet. overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 01/09/2016 14:34:58 1909149 Link
Replying To oldsam_newsam: "There is no need a quarter final in the SHC. Top 2 teams from each group should qualify for the semi final. Ant more is overkill." Overkill, so to win a hurling championship, ya have to play 7 matches. How many matches to win senior football championship? Bugsy (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 01/09/2016 20:53:55 1909301 Link
Replying To Bugsy: "Overkill, so to win a hurling championship, ya have to play 7 matches. How many matches to win senior football championship?" I would reckon 8 to complete SFC - barring draws. But we have 18 teams in the senior football championship and most people agree that it should be reduced to maximum 16 teams. Only 12 teams in SHC with 2 groups - ideally setup for a qualification for semis scenario, I think it used to be straight to semis after group stages - it would be great if they went back to that. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 01/09/2016 23:15:30 1909344 Link
Its a bit mad really 20 clubs 12 0f them senior glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1108 - 02/09/2016 08:09:38 1909361 Link
Replying To glenny: "Its a bit mad really 20 clubs 12 0f them senior" 10 team senior hurling championship is way forward... with only top 2 qualifying for semi finals.. and get rid of the quarter finals. (make championship 2 weeks shorter so could plan it out better) every game would be competitive and real championship feel to it... now at the minute its shadow boxing until september... and in Kiltale's case, October!! and realistically... what are Clann na nGael Boardsmill and Dunderry getting out of playing senior.. You might say Dunderry are going well, but they're not, they beat Athboy and Boardsmill in a very weak group.. Navan would beat these 3 teams and they're in a relegation play off due to lob sided groups. The intermediate championship would be so much better if they were in it too.. As it is, Na Fianna, Kilskyre Moylagh drumree ratoath and wolfe tones play against poor teams, some of them 2nd teams, and its not benefiting them either. The 2nd teams (with exception of Kiltale) are not competitive at Intermediate. comes down to county board... who really dont care about improving hurling in meath. and the club reps of athboy boardsmill etc would be too proud to accept to go down to intermediate... but it would benefit them no end. overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 02/09/2016 08:56:21 1909366 Link
Replying To overthehill72: "10 team senior hurling championship is way forward... with only top 2 qualifying for semi finals.. and get rid of the quarter finals. (make championship 2 weeks shorter so could plan it out better) every game would be competitive and real championship feel to it... now at the minute its shadow boxing until september... and in Kiltale's case, October!! and realistically... what are Clann na nGael Boardsmill and Dunderry getting out of playing senior.. You might say Dunderry are going well, but they're not, they beat Athboy and Boardsmill in a very weak group.. Navan would beat these 3 teams and they're in a relegation play off due to lob sided groups. The intermediate championship would be so much better if they were in it too.. As it is, Na Fianna, Kilskyre Moylagh drumree ratoath and wolfe tones play against poor teams, some of them 2nd teams, and its not benefiting them either. The 2nd teams (with exception of Kiltale) are not competitive at Intermediate. comes down to county board... who really dont care about improving hurling in meath. and the club reps of athboy boardsmill etc would be too proud to accept to go down to intermediate... but it would benefit them no end." 5 in a group still takes same length of time to play it out so 10 would only save a week. 8 would be plenty 5 dates to finish not 8 as it is Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/09/2016 13:18:06 1909451 Link
Replying To Brownepat: "5 in a group still takes same length of time to play it out so 10 would only save a week. 8 would be plenty 5 dates to finish not 8 as it is" 5 in a group saves 1 round during the groups stages.. but by getting rid of the quarter finals ... it saves more time also overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 02/09/2016 13:23:09 1909455 Link
Why are hurling people wanting less games of hurling championship?? Why don't clubs get their own house in order and improve underage structures thus leading to them producing a better senior team down the line which would make Senior hurling championship more competitive. We have 18 senior football teams and after 6 rounds we still have 9 left. Restructuring of football championship needed more so than hurling. Also scrap B-League football, that's taking up too many weekends/evenings. Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 02/09/2016 14:20:40 1909471 Link
Replying To Redsalltheway: "Why are hurling people wanting less games of hurling championship?? Why don't clubs get their own house in order and improve underage structures thus leading to them producing a better senior team down the line which would make Senior hurling championship more competitive. We have 18 senior football teams and after 6 rounds we still have 9 left. Restructuring of football championship needed more so than hurling. Also scrap B-League football, that's taking up too many weekends/evenings." Well said. With the exception of Kiltale and Na Fianna no club has been consistent with underage teams the last 5-10 years. Some clubs showing total neglect, Kilmessan and O'Mahoneys who dominated the underage in Meath for years struggle to field, has either club one player on the minor and 21 finals coming up? Kildalkey, Dunderry, Kilyon, Athboy all making great strides at juvenile level but could be a few years before we see a return in our club championship. I agree more games is the way forward, but they must be meaningful games in order to keep clubs and players interested. begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 02/09/2016 16:18:44 1909511 Link
Replying To begining: "Well said. With the exception of Kiltale and Na Fianna no club has been consistent with underage teams the last 5-10 years. Some clubs showing total neglect, Kilmessan and O'Mahoneys who dominated the underage in Meath for years struggle to field, has either club one player on the minor and 21 finals coming up? Kildalkey, Dunderry, Kilyon, Athboy all making great strides at juvenile level but could be a few years before we see a return in our club championship. I agree more games is the way forward, but they must be meaningful games in order to keep clubs and players interested." Navan have 1 player Dermot McKenna on the u21 team plays wing back for Navan Gaa2242 (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 02/09/2016 18:25:54 1909535 Link
Kilmessan @9/1 is a great bet. Everyone says Kilmessan are an old team with no one coming up but with the full team they have at the moment they wont be stopped, very weak team in that Killyon game missing 4 starting fowards. Trim will be a big game for them, very strong and physical team and will continue to fight right the way to end. But Kilmessan by 3 and to claim top spot. meathlad_98 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 02/09/2016 21:52:54 1909563 Link
Would agree to a level with previous posts A few teams will remain senior only because of poor groups Dunderry athboy boardsmill and nom are poor standard and a big gap between theses teams and senior challengers I know dunderry could still qualify if they beat dunboyne who seem to be in turmoil, but if they do it will end horribly for them in QF against big teams Kiltale are favorites but have not been tested at all yet and I think kilmessan or kilyon will do that Trim would be limited with heavy reliability on toher and Douglas. So my QF are Kiltale blackhall, dunboyne Kilyon, kildalkey, kilmessan umpireview (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 03/09/2016 08:02:57 1909590 Link
Replying To begining: "Well said. With the exception of Kiltale and Na Fianna no club has been consistent with underage teams the last 5-10 years. Some clubs showing total neglect, Kilmessan and O'Mahoneys who dominated the underage in Meath for years struggle to field, has either club one player on the minor and 21 finals coming up? Kildalkey, Dunderry, Kilyon, Athboy all making great strides at juvenile level but could be a few years before we see a return in our club championship. I agree more games is the way forward, but they must be meaningful games in order to keep clubs and players interested." You obviously haven't heard of trim winning countless under 11. 12. 13. 14. Plus 2 minor championships minor B and A in successive years plus an U21. So. To say kiltale and na fianna have dominated underage is incorrect. Trim have qualified for all Ireland feille u14 for 4 successive years twice in the last 11 years. Na fianna have only reaceantly become strong underage and it is great to see. lordofthecrack (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 03/09/2016 20:23:02 1909739 Link
You say that teams like Dunderry Boardsmill and NOM are a poor standard senior teams but then again I looked at blackhall Gaels tonight against Boardsmill and for a team that people are saying can have a big day in the championship, Boardsmill really put it up to them tonight with only the minimum in it in the end and saying that blackhall did not play poorly and Boardsmill could have put it up to any team apart from kilt ale. Also Dunderry have the chance on Monday to beat dunboyne and gain a quarter final spot and there won't be a major shock if they do as dunderry have a fire power team in the spine of the team and can cause dunboyne problems. HairLikeSheep (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 03/09/2016 21:00:58 1909755 Link
As hurling people we all strive for the same thing and that is getting your club to the top level and trying to stay there all be it hard for the smaller clubs who have smaller panels and mostly dual players who are asked to play way to many games in a short period of time all because the County Board can't organise fixtures. Every young lad playing wants to play senior hurling it's all they have to look forward to and aspire to so you can't tell these lads you should only try to be a junior or intermediate player I hate the way people keep knocking the smaller or weaker clubs who have worked as hard as anyone to get senior or stay senior Hurlguest (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 03/09/2016 22:38:53 1909778 Link
No point being at top level if you have not an earthly chance of winning anything other than a couple of moral victorys over other no hopers like yourself so you can sit back at year end and say we did not get relegated we had a great year. 60% of the hurling clubs are in zSHC nearly as lob sided as the all Ireland football championship. Just over 34% of football clubs in Meath are senior which is also to many,by the way. If the same logic was used there be less than seven in SHC which surprisingly is about right. ..kiltale kilmessan kildalkey killyon trim and maybe dunboyne on other years and Blackhall on present form Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 04/09/2016 10:02:18 1909827 Link
Dunderry cause dunboyne problem's? Are you mad! Monkeycatcher (Meath) - Posts: 155 - 04/09/2016 22:00:10 1910015 Link
Was a big win for trim yesterday considering they had 1 or two lads injured, Was not expecting them to keep it pucked out to killmessian after watching them last weekend when they handed the game to killyon. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 05/09/2016 09:18:58 1910078 Link
Replying To Hurlguest: "As hurling people we all strive for the same thing and that is getting your club to the top level and trying to stay there all be it hard for the smaller clubs who have smaller panels and mostly dual players who are asked to play way to many games in a short period of time all because the County Board can't organise fixtures. Every young lad playing wants to play senior hurling it's all they have to look forward to and aspire to so you can't tell these lads you should only try to be a junior or intermediate player I hate the way people keep knocking the smaller or weaker clubs who have worked as hard as anyone to get senior or stay senior" I agree with you. Guys posting nonsense have played very little themselves and I see the same with football posts -then they have they cheek to tell everyone that this affects our county teams (guys who never got near county standard themselves and who are experts!!). Everyone should strive to play at the highest grade and for some small club it may be huge success to even play at senior level.-ignore the be-grudgers and keep playing. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 05/09/2016 10:30:47 1910112 Link
Replying To Irish_downunder: "Was a big win for trim yesterday considering they had 1 or two lads injured, Was not expecting them to keep it pucked out to killmessian after watching them last weekend when they handed the game to killyon." Great win for Trim alright but they will need to be careful as a club to manage the next few weeks as the fixtures in hurling and football will come thick and fast. They will be expected to win their two quarter finals but it will be after this that things will get ropey. Good position to be in but it will be very difficult for them to win either competition especially with Kiltale in hurling and Colmcilles, Ballinabrackey etc in football just concentrating on the one code. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 05/09/2016 10:45:59 1910123 Link