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In fairness..... All everybody did was give out about Sheridan, Farrell and quenney when they were around. Everybody said they were finished cause they were massively underperforming. And Carroll can't win his own ball by the way. I guarantee ya couldn't get a team from around the club scene to beat that starting Meath team, what a silly remark to make just to try and back up ur opinion. southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 30/06/2016 13:19:51 1874230 Link 3 |
That is very true..they were called to slow and not fit enough for croke park in the big wide open places.
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 30/06/2016 14:14:42 1874266 Link 3 |
To be honest I think MOD was right to gte rid of the deadwood.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/06/2016 14:46:07 1874281 Link 1 |
But the current team are not fit enough either? Of that there is no doubt, every fact points to this, wrecked after 50 mins, loosing big leads, as htaem said we have only outscored Wicklow, Wexford and Carlow in second half since mod arrived. The fitness levels of likes of ward Farrell and even Sheridan were better under eob than what mod has brought to the table. As for game itself? All been equal we should win, but nothing is equal under mod, guaranteed to loose second half, so will need to be at least 5/6 up at ht , and if things are tight we will see more debuts as mod will want to build up his excuses and a reason to get another year to further bring Meath football down. Hard to be optimistic but I will go and support the county and the players, who have to be pitied trying to perform under such incompetents. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/06/2016 14:54:01 1874292 Link 0 |
All of that older brigade were long finished. The only one who I felt still had something to offer was Cian Ward but his style of play didn't seem to sit well with the management. What we lost with those players was leadership but it's up to other lads to step up to the plate. We've seen this already with Keogan, Tobin, Harnan, Burke and even young O'Sullivan. It's now time for the likes of O'Rourke, Biggy, Newman, Tormey and Wallace among others to take responsibility. MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 498 - 30/06/2016 14:56:50 1874295 Link 0 |
Kev Reilly on twitter after the game.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/06/2016 15:52:52 1874334 Link 1 |
The fitness thing with Meath is a bit of a enigma alright RD..i really dont know were we stand! When i went to the O'byrne cup games in January they were flying and looked like they could play 140 mins of football ..two weeks later during the league they look dead on there feet after 20 mins!
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 30/06/2016 17:10:42 1874390 Link 3 |
Yes but when other teams get fitter we stay the same.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/06/2016 17:29:02 1874398 Link 1 |
Why is that would you say Ziggy? i am very curious about this also if i am honest,there is always level of fitness achieved by all players and all teams!
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 30/06/2016 18:06:12 1874411 Link 3 |
That's great...I don't want Meath to be semi final material I want them to win the bloody thing outright.
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 30/06/2016 18:09:42 1874413 Link 1 |
They are overtrained
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 30/06/2016 18:11:35 1874415 Link 1 |
It seems to be me that they are overtrained when it comes to fitness work.Been like this for the last 4 years.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/06/2016 18:21:10 1874420 Link 1 |
I would be fairly confident that a good few of the players made themselves unavailable would make themselves available to a new manager.
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 30/06/2016 19:01:32 1874435 Link 2 |
Regarding the fitness, are they putting too much emphasis on speed in training and not building up stamina, no other team seems to fade as dramatically as us seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 30/06/2016 19:31:00 1874442 Link 3 |
Cannot see the logic in this, we have struggled against all opposition over last number of years, how can he say we are semi-finalist material?
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2149 - 30/06/2016 19:35:28 1874443 Link 3 |
No your right experience is a bad thing. The more we keep throwing on lads in big important games the better we will become. The man has had 4 years to build a team.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 30/06/2016 19:41:12 1874444 Link 0 |
Southmeathgael quote: 'I guarantee ya couldn't get a team from around the club scene to beat that starting Meath team, what a silly remark to make just to try and back up ur opinion'. You were replying to Forglory. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 30/06/2016 20:37:08 1874455 Link 3 |
In fairness to mod fitness has been a huge issue for meath footballers for years now. In 2010, with the exception of laois replay & dubs game we folded in the 2nd half of nearly every game we played league & championship. while i'm not a fan of mod the players have to take some of the blame.A lot of players are too young & inexperienced but theres an attitude & arrogance in SOME players that would lead you to believe they'd won it all. Contrast that with the dublin players ( breaks my heart saying this) who are genuinely honest footballers. thats what we're missing honesty. Saw a meath training session a few years ago before a championship game which they lost & was shocked at the attitude displayed by nearly every player, was all about fancy flicks & laughing & joking. you wouldnt see it at the goal challenge.
royal69er (Meath) - Posts: 96 - 30/06/2016 22:52:14 1874485 Link 0 |
Its such a strange thing, like yourself in January I was really pleased with the fitness of the team, come league and we dead on our feet, it gets worse in championship, over trained? Or is it wrongly trained? Surely someone within Meath has seen this? What is needed is stamina and endurance training, if we had both I think we would be in division 1 , which would seriously help our cause
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/07/2016 10:16:03 1874545 Link 1 |
Lads will everybody moaning about the older lads being cleared out ever cop on. Does anybody any this not remember Joe's last game when he was centre forward? We lost the game and he got absolutely torn to shreds on this about how he's too old and not up to the pace anymore etc. Ward and Farrell got similar treatment. The only player I had any problem with getting dropped was Peader Byrne thought he was a great bit of stuff, but Damian Carroll had to go. Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 01/07/2016 10:44:30 1874559 Link 0 |