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How can Meath beat Dublin in Leinster?

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Replying To OLLIE: "2010 was a great year for Biggy. He scored four points against Louth in the Leinster final. He will be up for this match with him living close to the Louth border." True, I think apart from the travesty of the end of that game the one thing that stands out for that year is he was done out of either ypoty or at least a all star, its a pity , he had a fantastic year throughout even against dubs he destroyed them, even though people forget this and say he doesn't play well v dubs, I think regardless of what happened it shouldn't have done him out of that all star , royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/05/2016 21:40:53 1859627 Link
Yes but Louth are sure to give Biggy attention.To be fair he got a hard time of it in a league match a few years ago with little help from the ref ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 29/05/2016 09:11:31 1859641 Link
RD That was 2010,Biggy hasn't truely performed in big games since.The whole team played well that particular day ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 29/05/2016 09:12:33 1859642 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "True, I think apart from the travesty of the end of that game the one thing that stands out for that year is he was done out of either ypoty or at least a all star, its a pity , he had a fantastic year throughout even against dubs he destroyed them, even though people forget this and say he doesn't play well v dubs, I think regardless of what happened it shouldn't have done him out of that all star ," Yes I agree. Biggy was fantastic that year and he deserved an All Star. John Galvin is another player who should of won an All Star that same year. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 29/05/2016 10:02:40 1859649 Link
RD- Maybe we should start a petition so that we could get you an All Star. I do not take All Stars too seriously!-some good players never got one and some average enough ones have received one in the past. If your county does not do well you are highly unlikely to receive one irrespective of how good you are and there are exceptions to most things. You win matches but you do not win an All Star-it is given out by someone /'group of experts' who think that they know better than everyone else. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 29/05/2016 14:24:04 1859705 Link
Replying To browncows: "RD- Maybe we should start a petition so that we could get you an All Star. I do not take All Stars too seriously!-some good players never got one and some average enough ones have received one in the past. If your county does not do well you are highly unlikely to receive one irrespective of how good you are and there are exceptions to most things. You win matches but you do not win an All Star-it is given out by someone /'group of experts' who think that they know better than everyone else." I don't pay much attention to them these days either, but I hadn't read one pundit or jurno who didn't say he would get one, he was something like 2/7 on for it, but hierarchy felt it shouldn't happen as the way Meath won Leinster. Ziggy in 11 he was injured. Since then? Well played v well v Tyrone twice in championship also brought us back into Armagh game, plus was by far best player v Westmeath and we wouldn't have lost that game only for him been black carded, he was destroying Westmeath, yes a few poor performance v dubs, but that been said he was only Meath player double marked by them last twice we played. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/05/2016 17:22:30 1859751 Link
Anyway I'm actually in croke park as I write tgis waiting on the boss, hopefully first of many times this year royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/05/2016 17:24:43 1859754 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "I don't pay much attention to them these days either, but I hadn't read one pundit or jurno who didn't say he would get one, he was something like 2/7 on for it, but hierarchy felt it shouldn't happen as the way Meath won Leinster. Ziggy in 11 he was injured. Since then? Well played v well v Tyrone twice in championship also brought us back into Armagh game, plus was by far best player v Westmeath and we wouldn't have lost that game only for him been black carded, he was destroying Westmeath, yes a few poor performance v dubs, but that been said he was only Meath player double marked by them last twice we played." RD Armagh and Westmeath are not top sides.Played well v Tyrone? When, in a league game? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 29/05/2016 19:35:26 1859785 Link
Was laughing to myself reading yesterdays Indo and how Dublin had played a match themselves in Nolan park last Saturday, at 7.00pm Planning doesn't get any more specific than that, and that's got nothing to do with funds or population either! Bearing in mind this is a game they're 1/100 to win. It's up to us to chase them. The minors reminded us yes but jesus our seniors done it for 15 years or so too! Their golden age won't always be there either, who knows ours may come again. Short term wise, the only feasible one I've heard is Andy Mac :-) dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 02/06/2016 11:24:01 1860828 Link
Oh and the Tommy Lyons article during the week was spot on. No point in being in denial about it, he's right. dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 02/06/2016 11:43:12 1860831 Link
Replying To dunboynelad: "Was laughing to myself reading yesterdays Indo and how Dublin had played a match themselves in Nolan park last Saturday, at 7.00pm Planning doesn't get any more specific than that, and that's got nothing to do with funds or population either! Bearing in mind this is a game they're 1/100 to win. It's up to us to chase them. The minors reminded us yes but jesus our seniors done it for 15 years or so too! Their golden age won't always be there either, who knows ours may come again. Short term wise, the only feasible one I've heard is Andy Mac :-)" Who wouldn't love going into a game as underdogs with odds like that against them? Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 02/06/2016 12:55:16 1860863 Link
Hopefully Meath get access (and use the chance) to a run out in Parnell Park before Louth match, Newman need to be familiar with his surroundings for free kicks. Saw somewhere he has about a 67% success rate with frees, need to up that stat by 10 15%. We will need every one to count for rest of season. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 02/06/2016 15:28:59 1860916 Link
Interesting article as usual from Jim McGuinness http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-the-five-game-plans-needed-to-beat-dublin-1.2674747 dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 07/06/2016 10:50:39 1862663 Link
I've said it a million time by now.You can not drop off on Dublins kick outs.You must press up and put pressure on.In Mickos first year we gave Dublin a game and what did we do? We pushed up on their kick outs.In our 16 point drubbing,for some reason we stood back and allowed Dublin to do what they wanted. You need hardworking forwards who will track back.This has been a serious problem for Meath.You must work as hard as Dublin do.To give yourself a chance the workrate has too be high all of the time.When I watched the Meath minors play Dublin,they played to a good plan,everyone knew what they were doing,but they played with belief,courage and as a team. This Meath senior team have good players,but they seem to be lacking in a lot of must have areas of the game.A strong manager would not accept missing traits like this. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 11:35:38 1862697 Link
In relation to the kick-outs, you cannot drop off and give a team such easy primary possession. Jim McGuinness in his Times article outlined how Dublin pushed up on Laois at the weekend. Its very clever and effective. "On the Laois kick-out, they occasionally had three full forwards not marking their men but rather holding position 15 metres apart and three half forwards doing the same thing. James McCarthy then pushed up to play on the right side of the middle of the park so they had three full forwards, three half forwards and three midfielders. The corner back pushed up into the half-back position so they went 3-3-3-3 and then two at the back. That meant no short kick-out for Laois; they had to go long and McCarthy, Brian Fenton and Michael Darragh Macauley dominated across the line. So they have added that to their repertoire as well. " GoalsWinGames (Meath) - Posts: 303 - 07/06/2016 12:09:59 1862731 Link
It is quite obvious that if you want to beat a good team like Dublin, you do not give them easy possession like free kick outs. You require pace all over the pitch with a high work rate and good use of your possession while taking your scoring chances. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 07/06/2016 15:24:48 1862885 Link
Replying To browncows: "It is quite obvious that if you want to beat a good team like Dublin, you do not give them easy possession like free kick outs. You require pace all over the pitch with a high work rate and good use of your possession while taking your scoring chances." Step one, beat Louth seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 07/06/2016 20:33:52 1863162 Link
We could be starting up a 'How Can Meath Beat Derry in the Qualifiers' thread shortly enough if we're not careful, all talk of beating Dublin should be reserved for whenever we're actually playing Dublin. As for MOD, I'd hope he started thinking of a plan to stop Dublin back in 2012 when he got the job and had a serious revision of that plan in 2014. Every manager in the province with a bit of ambition should be working out a plan from the get go, no half assed, last minute stuff. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 07/06/2016 21:01:58 1863196 Link
I keep saying it--if we can somehow stem the flow of chewing gum to Jim Gavin's mouth we should be able to give the dubs a game. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 07/06/2016 21:54:28 1863257 Link
Replying To browncows: "It is quite obvious that if you want to beat a good team like Dublin, you do not give them easy possession like free kick outs. You require pace all over the pitch with a high work rate and good use of your possession while taking your scoring chances." Very easy answer How do Meath with their current squad of players beat Dublin. I will post an opinion but that was a lazy answer applicable to any team playing Dublin Frederick (Louth) - Posts: 479 - 08/06/2016 18:52:59 1863812 Link