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The Andy Mc Factor - Tailteann Cup

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Replying To Meathfor@life:  "Strong team announced what's the story with Walsh is his season done? It's a real pity that he's out would have been good to see him playing would have got great confidence playing"
Yes, it's a pity but hopefully he'll be back for next years league as we will be hoping for another step up from this team then.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 224 - 23/06/2023 11:14:45    2488597

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Replying To Meathfor@life:  "Strong team announced what's the story with Walsh is his season done? It's a real pity that he's out would have been good to see him playing would have got great confidence playing"
I wonder will Daithi McGowan start this time. He gets named on every team announced but never seems to start.

kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 321 - 23/06/2023 12:16:53    2488625

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "Yes, it's a pity but hopefully he'll be back for next years league as we will be hoping for another step up from this team then."
Yeah hopefully we can go on and win this now and really start to push on next year

Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 23/06/2023 15:19:58    2488685

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Replying To kingofclubs:  "I wonder will Daithi McGowan start this time. He gets named on every team announced but never seems to start."
He deserves to start after his sub appearance the last day really starting to improve now

Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 23/06/2023 15:20:44    2488686

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Who should partner Conor Gray in midfield Jack Flynn or Ronan Jones? Thought Jack flynn was very good the last day and Jones might add something from the bench.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 23/06/2023 19:16:47    2488722

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A good solid team named. It feels like there's a real competition for places now in some positions around midfield and the half forward like. Good to see Jones back and McGowan has impressed in the last two games he deserves the start. Flynn is a good impact off the bench. It's a toss of a coin between himself and McGowan to start. The defence has a very settled look about it. I'm looking forward to see this team in Croke Park. There's a bit of freshness around them and that has come from winning matches albeit not at the level we need to be. We can only beat what's in front of us and we should get the win on Sunday.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 1996 - 23/06/2023 21:41:45    2488730

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Who should partner Conor Gray in midfield Jack Flynn or Ronan Jones? Thought Jack flynn was very good the last day and Jones might add something from the bench."
Jones for me is better player u could put Jones possibly as a 3rd midfielder from forward line though

Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 24/06/2023 11:44:51    2488768

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Replying To Ed2010:  "Dessie Farrell last month: we got caught out after playing div 2 teams all year and we weren't ready today playing a div 1 team. That's Dublin!!.it is all well and good getting a bit of confidence in this thing but as preparation for competing in Sam next year (hopefully), it won't do us much good imo, bar the little bit of confidence. Wether that's enough let's see."
Dublin and Meath are in very different positions. It definitely was a negative thing for Dublin to be in division 2 this year as they obviously would have been competitive in division 1 and would have got to test their players against other strong teams. The changes in the structure of the championship has been good for them in this regard in letting get up to speed a bit in the group games.
Say had Meath got to the main competition this year they would have probably been in with 2 division 1 teams and one other team. I would have expected us to be hammered when playing the division 1 teams (that's what usually happened us in recent years and probably would have been worse with such a new team and a management team finding their feet). We may have been competitive in the other game. Getting bad beatings is bad for morale. I don't think you get much from playing better teams unless you are somewhat competitive. This year I think, with a new management and so many championship newcomers, being in the Tailteann may in hindsight prove not the worst thing.
It would have been better had some of our games been a bit more competitive (in terms of developing players testing yourself in competitive games is ideal) but for the development of the new players probably was better than the alternative of getting 2 bad beatings. If we could win the Tailteann cup (or even get to the final) you would hope it could help create a good vibe amongst this group of players.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 24/06/2023 11:54:26    2488772

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Who should partner Conor Gray in midfield Jack Flynn or Ronan Jones? Thought Jack flynn was very good the last day and Jones might add something from the bench."
Good problem to have, all good options in an area we have struggled in recent years. The competition will drive standards which can only be good for Meath football.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 14:56:56    2488807

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Dublin and Meath are in very different positions. It definitely was a negative thing for Dublin to be in division 2 this year as they obviously would have been competitive in division 1 and would have got to test their players against other strong teams. The changes in the structure of the championship has been good for them in this regard in letting get up to speed a bit in the group games.
Say had Meath got to the main competition this year they would have probably been in with 2 division 1 teams and one other team. I would have expected us to be hammered when playing the division 1 teams (that's what usually happened us in recent years and probably would have been worse with such a new team and a management team finding their feet). We may have been competitive in the other game. Getting bad beatings is bad for morale. I don't think you get much from playing better teams unless you are somewhat competitive. This year I think, with a new management and so many championship newcomers, being in the Tailteann may in hindsight prove not the worst thing.
It would have been better had some of our games been a bit more competitive (in terms of developing players testing yourself in competitive games is ideal) but for the development of the new players probably was better than the alternative of getting 2 bad beatings. If we could win the Tailteann cup (or even get to the final) you would hope it could help create a good vibe amongst this group of players."
Seem's to be a positive vibe in camp with Colm giving the credit to players for driving standards. Have handed championship starts to several players, which is not the norm for one season. Can only be a positive going forward I think TC has served its purpose for Meath, hopefully we get to final and another day out in CP. These young lads deserve a good crowd tomorrow after a difficult year. Antrim go in as underdogs and expect them to push us hard, they have a big target man and not afraid to pump in the long ball, however, CP should suit us and if defence continues to improve we can make final.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 15:15:25    2488810

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All along I said that getting to the last 4 would be a good acheivement for this group considering where they were in April/May. This is progress. Well done to all.

However if Im honest now, I feel like this squad should press on and win the cup altogether. It's just that the games were won easier (exception: Down) than they ought to have been and that tells me that this team has potentially a far higher ceiling than I would have said two or three months back. In fact I would nearly say that the biggest issue earlier in the year could have been nerves and confidence, and that corner seems to have been turned, hence the results. Ar least I think that is the case.

On the confidence and the nervous energy in the Meath team; Andy McEntee will be well aware of this fragility and if Antrim can put out a tidy ship, which they will, and bring some fire - they could ask questions... I would be highly surprised if they dont play very deep and put serious squeeze between the tramlines and between the halfway line and the 21 when Meath are in possession. Thats where Antrim can affect the game; get turnovers, force the Meath players into hasty decisions, force shots from distance etc, in that scenario Meath are very average. They may even give away frees in this area as they know Meath havent confident free takers.

Its obviously easier said than done but I dont see how an Antrim team that is on a good run, used to Ulster football, with a very cute manager who knows their opposition wont be very well organised on the day.

In saying all of that - I think it could take time but Meath should prevail. The other outcome I see is that Antrim dont face up; if that happens Meath will win easily.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 589 - 24/06/2023 19:18:40    2488888

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After the league I wasn't sorry to see Meath playing in the Tailtean Cup , young team New management I believed it would give everyone a chance to win games and improve as a unit .
If it has done this then Meath must win today and win with a bit in hand the McEntee factor should only drive some Meath players on even more .
Antrim have had a few decent results this yea but this is still a team that Westmeath bey by 32 points in the league only a matter of weeks ago .
I'll be disappointed if we don't win comfortably best of luck to Colm and all the players Meath by 5+

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 268 - 25/06/2023 09:01:52    2489001

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Bonjour. Just back from our wee trip to Paris with my beautiful wife and I see my fan club talked about me all week :). I'm flattered.
Couple of things Gallagher said b4 he was rightfully removed that Derry had to be playing in div 1 to improve and get better. But sure no according to some on here (or multiples of one account ) you have to be playing the likes of Wexford and Waterford to be able to compete with Armagh , Donegal cork Kildare. Ok ???
Anyway off to Croke park today expecting a win against a team who are well beneath our standard of players. And I mean no disrespect to them in saying that, who's players have came out and said that the players literally love their manager, so they will go above and beyond for him particularly against his native county. But that will only get you so far, and our players are better , now hopefully our biggest drawback this year is starting to sort itself out. The defection of two members to ladies and split their time hopefully will make no difference at this late stage but going forward has to be one or the other.
On that note best wishes to Colm donal and all involved today. The only way this will be a success is the prize of winning it otherwise we , I fear will be in it again next year.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2023 09:10:29    2489003

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Who should partner Conor Gray in midfield Jack Flynn or Ronan Jones? Thought Jack flynn was very good the last day and Jones might add something from the bench."
Jones has been our best player since the league and was one of the only players to show a bit of fight when the team was struggling he shouldn't be dropped if he's fit

Royal.1 (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 25/06/2023 12:12:46    2489059

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Seated and ready to go. Looking through teams not one Antrim player has played for his county in Croke park. Vast majority of ours have. That must count for something. ? Some like keoghan harnan jones O'Sullivan, Morris mcentee etc have played here numerous times. I can't see anything other than an extremely comfortable win. Antrim for all them having a good target man and good manager have little else and tbh I think they May freeze in this game. They are in bonus territory we have to win this bloody thing to ensure we NEVER in it again.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2023 12:51:32    2489065

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Replying To Royal.1:  "Jones has been our best player since the league and was one of the only players to show a bit of fight when the team was struggling he shouldn't be dropped if he's fit"
Agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2023 13:30:23    2489082

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On another note very poor crowd here so far let's hope more come in. . Don't think this competition will catch on. Regardless of who is in it. Disappointed

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2023 13:47:45    2489088

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Costello Morris lynch harnan all excellent some of the subs were questionable mcentee was just getting into the game. 3rd quarter was decisive. Well done to Antrim on their performance and to Andy mcentee showing what a class manger he is, to take such a lowly ranked team to push Meath all the way in year one shows what a incredible manager he is.
I actually got excited for first time in the now often called tiddlywinks cup, so maybe not all bad .
Looking forward to the final and a chance to make absolutely sure we are not in this next year. Down will be a different animal. (They I think will beat Laois ) but we have a chance to win it out now. So let's do that.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2023 15:46:19    2489130

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A win is a win and we're in a final but we should've destroyed them when we got 6 or 7 up. It was 2 on 2 in our FF line every time, if we'd used the head a bit more would've won by 10. Feel like we've some really good athletes and conditioning improving but need to improve game management and know how on the field. FB line was in major trouble until Keogan went back. Still hard to tell where we're at. Final against probably Down will tell.

NYRoyal (USA) - Posts: 28 - 25/06/2023 15:53:24    2489134

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We have the makings of a team for this level, all be it BUT somehow we nearly managed to lose it. McEntee, who by the way was playing brilliantly at full forward and Aaron Lynch were taken off far to early. Their replacements never got into the game. We also need a fullback badly as well.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 25/06/2023 15:57:56    2489135

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