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Replying To Royal.Legend: "I see we have a few parrots on the forum now which is greet one of my all time favourite birds, the regional championships were indeed suppose to start before o rourke got involved but it did make its debute during the start of his tenure, o rourke is a very hands on manager and I'm sure as one of its main purposes was to identify talent for the meath senior team that I'm sure o rourke had helped out in setting it up, anyway on the match on Saturday I'm looking forward to seeing what team is picked and hopefully the injuries to walsh Jones keogan have cleared up, I think meath at 11/2 with the bookies is a good value bet as we should be there or there abouts. Hon the royals and keep the faith." Well this Parrot will repeat himself again.
COR had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Regional championships 3 years ago when they were supposed to start or last September when they did start.
Apart from attending the games he had nothing to do with setting it up or running it while it was on going.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 872 - 11/05/2023 10:55:57
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Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 11/05/2023 11:11:39
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Allowing for the caveat of the talent in the county not being up to scratch where is the evidence we are going in the right direction. We are even worse than last year when the county board cut the legs from the management team. We are far worse than 2 years ago and a miles off the level of 3 and 4 years ago. Tony McEntee is an outside manager yes but getting Sligo up to division 3, getting them a Tailteann cup semi final. Giving a better platform and level for their successful under 20 teams to come into. That's clearly getting them in the right direction and helping the long term of Sligo football. How is there any evidence at all Meath are going in the right direction this year. We've played 8 competitive games and only played well in 1 of them. The performances just got worse and worse. Our 2 worst performances were the last 2" I would have criticisms of the current management but the one thing I would give them credit for is taking on a job that no-one wanted.
Regarding what direction we are going in I don't think we are moving in any direction.....last year's performances were just as bad as this years and this has been coming for years.
I think it's unfair for people on here to pick 2 examples (Gallagher and McEntee) and use them as a stick to beat our management with. They took over with teams in division 4, so in a sense, improvement was a given as the only way was up. Just like in a game, momentum over a sustained period is vital. It's much easier to build momentum from the base those guys started at and after 2-3 years a team can really get on a roll.
For the last 10 years any momentum our teams have built up has been well and truly stopped when we ran into a GAA-funded juggernaut in the summer. It's impossible to build up that run of form.
Derry are in a province where the teams operate at a more equal level. Sligo are in a province where they are up against it, but people are judging them on this year when they had the easiest route possible to
their inevitable tanking. If they had got the beating they took from Galway in the first round they wouldn't get a mention. And I say that with full respect to Sligo.
Management did nail their colours to the mast and say they would use a kicking game. They tried it, it didn't work for us, for now I'll assume they are working on something else.
They also get a slagging here for going man v man against Dublin. Again, it didn't work. I'd only have a problem if they did it again next time they played them. Clare didn't exactly park the bus against Kerry last week, yet Colm Collins is rightly praised as a solid inter-county manager. Teams that take a hammering in Munster every year have never been allowed to build the momentum that gets them to the level of a serious contender either.
Regarding the TC, I would be more than hopeful that we can get to the knock-out stages. Our aim should be a semi-final, but that will depend on the draw. There are plenty of teams in this competition of a similar standard to us
and it will be good to see how we measure up against them.
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "I see we have a few parrots on the forum now which is greet one of my all time favourite birds, the regional championships were indeed suppose to start before o rourke got involved but it did make its debute during the start of his tenure, o rourke is a very hands on manager and I'm sure as one of its main purposes was to identify talent for the meath senior team that I'm sure o rourke had helped out in setting it up, anyway on the match on Saturday I'm looking forward to seeing what team is picked and hopefully the injuries to walsh Jones keogan have cleared up, I think meath at 11/2 with the bookies is a good value bet as we should be there or there abouts. Hon the royals and keep the faith." My apologies I hadn't seen the other post before responding. , it will teach me to read on in future instead of hitting reply straight away. :)
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Been thinking over last few days as to how our standards dropped off since the good old days. Leaving obvious things like coaching and underage structures aside i was trying to think of whats so different. Those teams didnt take a bit of abuse from anyone. They were proper hardy men. We used to be much more physical and every club had 1 or 2 players you just didnt want to mess with. That has entirely changed these days from a football only perspective.
Those who also play hurling still have that bit of bite about them. Boylans teams used to be backboned by dual players such as Fay and dowd who loved nothing more than to break a few hurls.
I am very much a Hurling fan rather than a football fan but i would have to wonder as hurling in the county has grown stronger, has this been detrimental to what we can pick for the football? Are some of these players more likely to stick to the hurling.
I would argue if you were to pick both codes and play a football match we might be surprised of the outcome.
I imagine this will be pulled apart.
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Replying To Greenfield: "I would have criticisms of the current management but the one thing I would give them credit for is taking on a job that no-one wanted.
Regarding what direction we are going in I don't think we are moving in any direction.....last year's performances were just as bad as this years and this has been coming for years.
I think it's unfair for people on here to pick 2 examples (Gallagher and McEntee) and use them as a stick to beat our management with. They took over with teams in division 4, so in a sense, improvement was a given as the only way was up. Just like in a game, momentum over a sustained period is vital. It's much easier to build momentum from the base those guys started at and after 2-3 years a team can really get on a roll.
For the last 10 years any momentum our teams have built up has been well and truly stopped when we ran into a GAA-funded juggernaut in the summer. It's impossible to build up that run of form.
Derry are in a province where the teams operate at a more equal level. Sligo are in a province where they are up against it, but people are judging them on this year when they had the easiest route possible to
their inevitable tanking. If they had got the beating they took from Galway in the first round they wouldn't get a mention. And I say that with full respect to Sligo.
Management did nail their colours to the mast and say they would use a kicking game. They tried it, it didn't work for us, for now I'll assume they are working on something else.
They also get a slagging here for going man v man against Dublin. Again, it didn't work. I'd only have a problem if they did it again next time they played them. Clare didn't exactly park the bus against Kerry last week, yet Colm Collins is rightly praised as a solid inter-county manager. Teams that take a hammering in Munster every year have never been allowed to build the momentum that gets them to the level of a serious contender either.
Regarding the TC, I would be more than hopeful that we can get to the knock-out stages. Our aim should be a semi-final, but that will depend on the draw. There are plenty of teams in this competition of a similar standard to us
and it will be good to see how we measure up against them." No one knows who was in for the job. It was kept in house, so you can't say with confidence no one else was in for it. Last years performances were not as bad as this years, and even if they were, the abuse Mcentee received for those performances was vile. Whereas when it is o'rourke, the narrative is that he is 'building things', and 'going in the right direction'. They went man to man against derry and again against Dublin. Again, Clare are in the sam Maguire, they had to beat a much better team that we had to beat, hence why collins gets plaudits.
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Replying To Irish_downunder: "Been thinking over last few days as to how our standards dropped off since the good old days. Leaving obvious things like coaching and underage structures aside i was trying to think of whats so different. Those teams didnt take a bit of abuse from anyone. They were proper hardy men. We used to be much more physical and every club had 1 or 2 players you just didnt want to mess with. That has entirely changed these days from a football only perspective.
Those who also play hurling still have that bit of bite about them. Boylans teams used to be backboned by dual players such as Fay and dowd who loved nothing more than to break a few hurls.
I am very much a Hurling fan rather than a football fan but i would have to wonder as hurling in the county has grown stronger, has this been detrimental to what we can pick for the football? Are some of these players more likely to stick to the hurling.
I would argue if you were to pick both codes and play a football match we might be surprised of the outcome.
I imagine this will be pulled apart." How has hurling in the county grown stronger?
Were in "old" division 3 in NHL & Tier 3 in SHC.
Minor teams cant compete with westmeath or Kildare.
In 2002 we were playing Div 1 hurling.
Your lack of knowledge is gas.
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Replying To Greenfield: "I would have criticisms of the current management but the one thing I would give them credit for is taking on a job that no-one wanted.
Regarding what direction we are going in I don't think we are moving in any direction.....last year's performances were just as bad as this years and this has been coming for years.
I think it's unfair for people on here to pick 2 examples (Gallagher and McEntee) and use them as a stick to beat our management with. They took over with teams in division 4, so in a sense, improvement was a given as the only way was up. Just like in a game, momentum over a sustained period is vital. It's much easier to build momentum from the base those guys started at and after 2-3 years a team can really get on a roll.
For the last 10 years any momentum our teams have built up has been well and truly stopped when we ran into a GAA-funded juggernaut in the summer. It's impossible to build up that run of form.
Derry are in a province where the teams operate at a more equal level. Sligo are in a province where they are up against it, but people are judging them on this year when they had the easiest route possible to
their inevitable tanking. If they had got the beating they took from Galway in the first round they wouldn't get a mention. And I say that with full respect to Sligo.
Management did nail their colours to the mast and say they would use a kicking game. They tried it, it didn't work for us, for now I'll assume they are working on something else.
They also get a slagging here for going man v man against Dublin. Again, it didn't work. I'd only have a problem if they did it again next time they played them. Clare didn't exactly park the bus against Kerry last week, yet Colm Collins is rightly praised as a solid inter-county manager. Teams that take a hammering in Munster every year have never been allowed to build the momentum that gets them to the level of a serious contender either.
Regarding the TC, I would be more than hopeful that we can get to the knock-out stages. Our aim should be a semi-final, but that will depend on the draw. There are plenty of teams in this competition of a similar standard to us
and it will be good to see how we measure up against them." Good analysis, way too much whataboutary, keep focus on ourselves. Comparing Derry and Sligo is apples and oranges. Derry especially have built slowley from a very low level and were allowed to do so without interferance. Meath are attempting to do likewise while retaining Div two status and expected to reach Leinster Final, Derry were under little pressure and have no reaped rewards. Some Meath supporters want it both ways and maybe its possible, however, for me thats short term planning and just results in more of what we have seen for years now
TC gives us games against teams of similar ability, we have struggled against teams in qualifiers never beating a higher ranked side and scraping past a few ranked below us. Despite who is manager could anyone in fairness expect us to be competitive on this years All Ireland series? Looking forward to next three games and hopefully a few moreand as you say interesting to see how we fair out against them.
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Replying To PatrickTopping: "How has hurling in the county grown stronger?
Were in "old" division 3 in NHL & Tier 3 in SHC.
Minor teams cant compete with westmeath or Kildare.
In 2002 we were playing Div 1 hurling.
Your lack of knowledge is gas." Great stuff. We won a shambles of a div 2 league in 2000 which we'd canter through today. That moved us all the way up to Div 1A where we got absolutly pumped in every match bar one against dublin where we got a result as they were useless back then,. I believe the other match was abandoned and we got the result which kept us in.
The only reason we stayed in Div 1A for the next year was they reduced the overall number of teams. WE promptly got spanked and sent down the leagues. So in other Words pure luck of the draw had us playing div 1.
I wasnt referring to Minor teams but rather senior grade which i thought was evident.
In recent years we have had success at senior hurling with the christy ring etc and this has been a constant which is more than can be said for the footy.
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Replying To seadog54: "Good analysis, way too much whataboutary, keep focus on ourselves. Comparing Derry and Sligo is apples and oranges. Derry especially have built slowley from a very low level and were allowed to do so without interferance. Meath are attempting to do likewise while retaining Div two status and expected to reach Leinster Final, Derry were under little pressure and have no reaped rewards. Some Meath supporters want it both ways and maybe its possible, however, for me thats short term planning and just results in more of what we have seen for years now
TC gives us games against teams of similar ability, we have struggled against teams in qualifiers never beating a higher ranked side and scraping past a few ranked below us. Despite who is manager could anyone in fairness expect us to be competitive on this years All Ireland series? Looking forward to next three games and hopefully a few moreand as you say interesting to see how we fair out against them." So then we will win tc ? As we are the highest ranked side.
The excuses are getting pathetic at this stage.
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Replying To Irish_downunder: "Been thinking over last few days as to how our standards dropped off since the good old days. Leaving obvious things like coaching and underage structures aside i was trying to think of whats so different. Those teams didnt take a bit of abuse from anyone. They were proper hardy men. We used to be much more physical and every club had 1 or 2 players you just didnt want to mess with. That has entirely changed these days from a football only perspective.
Those who also play hurling still have that bit of bite about them. Boylans teams used to be backboned by dual players such as Fay and dowd who loved nothing more than to break a few hurls.
I am very much a Hurling fan rather than a football fan but i would have to wonder as hurling in the county has grown stronger, has this been detrimental to what we can pick for the football? Are some of these players more likely to stick to the hurling.
I would argue if you were to pick both codes and play a football match we might be surprised of the outcome.
I imagine this will be pulled apart." The days of proper hardy men are long gone. The rules have changed. Most of the Meath team of the 80s wouldn't get through 70 mins without a red card the way the game is refereed now. On your second point, I don't know of any current dual player playing hurling that would improve the current football panel.
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Replying To contributingtoamelee: "No one knows who was in for the job. It was kept in house, so you can't say with confidence no one else was in for it. Last years performances were not as bad as this years, and even if they were, the abuse Mcentee received for those performances was vile. Whereas when it is o'rourke, the narrative is that he is 'building things', and 'going in the right direction'. They went man to man against derry and again against Dublin. Again, Clare are in the sam Maguire, they had to beat a much better team that we had to beat, hence why collins gets plaudits." I won't agree with you about last year's performances....to me there was no difference to this year, but I agree 100% that the abuse Andy Mc took was out of order. I can't get my head around people abusing someone for giving up their time to do what they can to help.
I don't think I mentioned that we were 'going in the right direction'....I think the best that can be said is that we stayed where we were and hopefully (though maybe not) stopped a spiral that perhaps started with the wake-up call we got in 2019 super 8s and 2020 NFL.
Clare are in the Sam Maguire and good luck to them.....the point I was trying to make was that some here berate managers for being naive for going man to man against Dublin in Leinster when the same judgement is not made against managers in Munster for doing similar against Kerry.
I take your point on the recruitment being kept in-house.
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Replying To Greenfield: "I would have criticisms of the current management but the one thing I would give them credit for is taking on a job that no-one wanted.
Regarding what direction we are going in I don't think we are moving in any direction.....last year's performances were just as bad as this years and this has been coming for years.
I think it's unfair for people on here to pick 2 examples (Gallagher and McEntee) and use them as a stick to beat our management with. They took over with teams in division 4, so in a sense, improvement was a given as the only way was up. Just like in a game, momentum over a sustained period is vital. It's much easier to build momentum from the base those guys started at and after 2-3 years a team can really get on a roll.
For the last 10 years any momentum our teams have built up has been well and truly stopped when we ran into a GAA-funded juggernaut in the summer. It's impossible to build up that run of form.
Derry are in a province where the teams operate at a more equal level. Sligo are in a province where they are up against it, but people are judging them on this year when they had the easiest route possible to
their inevitable tanking. If they had got the beating they took from Galway in the first round they wouldn't get a mention. And I say that with full respect to Sligo.
Management did nail their colours to the mast and say they would use a kicking game. They tried it, it didn't work for us, for now I'll assume they are working on something else.
They also get a slagging here for going man v man against Dublin. Again, it didn't work. I'd only have a problem if they did it again next time they played them. Clare didn't exactly park the bus against Kerry last week, yet Colm Collins is rightly praised as a solid inter-county manager. Teams that take a hammering in Munster every year have never been allowed to build the momentum that gets them to the level of a serious contender either.
Regarding the TC, I would be more than hopeful that we can get to the knock-out stages. Our aim should be a semi-final, but that will depend on the draw. There are plenty of teams in this competition of a similar standard to us
and it will be good to see how we measure up against them." Yes i think you make very fair and balanced points ,especially where same errors are repeated consistently.That is the bit that annoys me most. No learning has taken place in that situation. If we are honest no matter who was manager even Jim Gavin himself he would have a lot of learning to do because of where we are at No disrespect to previous managers over the last 10 years they did the best they could in the circumstances. Yes i think we can do well in TC and thus use it as a building block I just wonder also what the top table are doing now in the push to improve our lot in the long term What are their plans for sucession plans .? Not indeed that i want Colm out now certaintly not ! Gavin was the major benificary of a couple of visionary people on CB ably assisted by Pat Gilroy. To me lack of vision at the top is the real problem in the long term What Colm as manager is trying to do reminds of pulling up weeds .He can see whats overground and pulls up what he can see ,and only sometimes the roots come up as well BUT a lot of roots left behind to come again. The roots have flourished in several years of neglect by the top table. To begin with maybe cb would refrain from just naval gazing. look outwards. have a look at Dublin for example. It didnt just happen itself They made it happen ! Vision and real leadership ! Perhaps clubs could give this some airtime and prepare their delegates for the next AGM. To me the biggest disappointment of all is to see the lack of competition for places at the top table.That tells its own story. However , back to the weeds overground we cant just leave them there and Colm has to be given time to deal with them For his courage in taking a job nobody else wanted he deserves time and that should be flavoured by real support and encouragement The roots the real problem well thats another story altogheter. Plenty will not agree with those views of course ...thats ok......I wont change that view . Its important yes but its still only sport after all.
Furthermore ,i am convinced that sponsorship would be more attractive if a well researched 10 year plan was available where TRAINING and DEVELOPMENT was central to everything to raise standars on and off the field.
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Replying To contributingtoamelee: "No one knows who was in for the job. It was kept in house, so you can't say with confidence no one else was in for it. Last years performances were not as bad as this years, and even if they were, the abuse Mcentee received for those performances was vile. Whereas when it is o'rourke, the narrative is that he is 'building things', and 'going in the right direction'. They went man to man against derry and again against Dublin. Again, Clare are in the sam Maguire, they had to beat a much better team that we had to beat, hence why collins gets plaudits." It's eye opening to see the differences between what some posters said last couple of years to this. The absolute bile that was thrown at Shane mcentee was disgusting, saying he's only on team and capt cause who his farther is (captaincy was decided by the players at that time , don't know if that's still the case) and not a peep out of the same so called supporters when Colm says that he is a huge loss to the team and would have played a big part in Meath years apart from back injury and operation, he also brought back James mcentee (should have been on panel regardless) these so called supporters haven't uttered a word against them this year, but go full on lunatics when Colm's clear lack of having a structured team, a fit team or even a coherent team is pointed out and says everyone who points this out has a agenda. They are the only ones with agendas and they have been shown up for it.
Royallegend this does not include you. Like my good self you only have the good of Meath football at heart, I'd disagree with jinxie too on his views but again it would be difference of opinion we would all be coming from the same place, wanting Meath to be the best, even Brian ffs apart from his obvious dislike of me I'd be confident enough that he wants what's best for Meath going forward. There are some though including the laughable guy and a couple of others who have 0 interest in what's best for the county and only want their man to be hailed as the saviour of Meath football. Colm is a playing legend. But so far there is zero evidence that he can be even a mediocre county manager, hopefully that will change and I'd be delighted to be proven wrong, and happily accept it. However his efforts with u21s were a disaster and same can now be said of seniors, there's a hell of a difference to schools and club football and compromised rules than at the very elite of our games county at u21/20 and senior. And blind loyalty and coming out with bs about how he will save us and put in structures (his ONLY JOB) is to coach the seniors is a joke and while these people have comedic value they are not representative of the vast majority of Meath supporters. Again not toward the genuine ones who believe he may turn this around but to the delusional and unhinged posters
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Those who also play hurling still have that bit of bite about them. Boylans teams used to be backboned by dual players such as Fay and dowd who loved nothing more than to break a few hurls.
I am very much a Hurling fan rather than a football fan but i would have to wonder as hurling in the county has grown stronger, has this been detrimental to what we can pick for the football? Are some of these players more likely to stick to the hurling.
I would argue if you were to pick both codes and play a football match we might be surprised of the outcome.
I imagine this will be pulled apart." Things have changed and to some extent Meath missed the bus. Whatever about fitness we do lack the physicality to compete with the better teams, many of whom have built it up over a number of years. Present team are young and a bit lightweight but will develop over time. The day of the dual player is long gone at least at intercounty level. Players would have to give up all their time and injury risk gets greater. Better to give your best to one code.
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Replying To Greenfield: "I won't agree with you about last year's performances....to me there was no difference to this year, but I agree 100% that the abuse Andy Mc took was out of order. I can't get my head around people abusing someone for giving up their time to do what they can to help.
I don't think I mentioned that we were 'going in the right direction'....I think the best that can be said is that we stayed where we were and hopefully (though maybe not) stopped a spiral that perhaps started with the wake-up call we got in 2019 super 8s and 2020 NFL.
Clare are in the Sam Maguire and good luck to them.....the point I was trying to make was that some here berate managers for being naive for going man to man against Dublin in Leinster when the same judgement is not made against managers in Munster for doing similar against Kerry.
I take your point on the recruitment being kept in-house." My post wasn't aimed at your good self either. We've been around the block plenty
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Furthermore ,i am convinced that sponsorship would be more attractive if a well researched 10 year plan was available where TRAINING and DEVELOPMENT was central to everything to raise standars on and off the field.
o" Really?? You constantly went on about Andy having half his family on the team. And indeed only recently were sneering the same thing. You were one of the worst offenders criticising him.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/05/2023 17:16:57
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Replying To royaldunne: "My post wasn't aimed at your good self either. We've been around the block plenty" RD responding to a post by greenfield who was responding to contributingtoamelee….
States "my post wasn't aimed at your good self"
Has RD already screwed the pooch on his burner account… I suspected CTAM might've been a burner account and the above post absolutely backs up my thoughts…
And he'd the brass balls to accuse me of multiple accounts…
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Replying To royaldunne: "My post wasn't aimed at your good self either. We've been around the block plenty" No worries.
Enjoy the match Saturday. I have no doubt you'll be there.
Just hope these lads do themselves justice over the next few weeks.
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What do people think of donal ogs comments about the tailteann cup been like a grand national for the also rans. Thought it was highly disrespectful for someone who went on a rant about hurling not been treated fairly. Bit hypocritical to say the least
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