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Replying To royaldunne: "Can I ask jack one question? How do you make out only 5k will go to match? Meath cb have already said there is over 6k sold as of yesterday (so I've heard) not counting season tickets etc, now I expect some of them are dubs living in Meath (the man you answering question to been prime example) are you telling me that not one Meath man or woman will buy a ticket between now and Sunday, and no walk ups?? There was a estimated 5/6 k Meath fans at league final you are saying that the Leinster final will draw same or less??" I'll be pleasantly surprised if more then 10k go to the match. The most we've had at any match this year was about half that. I can't see the fanbase doubling, considering the final is Dublin and the price of tickets. Next year the Leinster Council need to change it. €20 for semi finals and €25 for the final. Still pricey for a foregone conclusion but a step in the right direction.
If the bookies are right and we do indeed get a hammering far less will travel to any future finals against them.
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Replying To Jack_Goff: "I'll be pleasantly surprised if more then 10k go to the match. The most we've had at any match this year was about half that. I can't see the fanbase doubling, considering the final is Dublin and the price of tickets. Next year the Leinster Council need to change it. €20 for semi finals and €25 for the final. Still pricey for a foregone conclusion but a step in the right direction.
If the bookies are right and we do indeed get a hammering far less will travel to any future finals against them." Next year the Gaa need to change it my scrapping the provincials. Simple as that. Play it as a preseason tournament if you wish but its outdated and unfair. Silly the way slme teams have to play 2 and some have to play 4 to reach the super 8's. It all needs to be revamped
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Replying To Jack_Goff: "I'll be pleasantly surprised if more then 10k go to the match. The most we've had at any match this year was about half that. I can't see the fanbase doubling, considering the final is Dublin and the price of tickets. Next year the Leinster Council need to change it. €20 for semi finals and €25 for the final. Still pricey for a foregone conclusion but a step in the right direction.
If the bookies are right and we do indeed get a hammering far less will travel to any future finals against them." Been waiting years for a Leinster final against Dublin.
Happy to pay good money for a seat in croker for this.
No complaints from me!
And to all the supporters who ain't gonna bother showing, as bill shankly used to say - if ye can't support in the bad times, don't bother supporting in the good times
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Replying To bert09: "Been waiting years for a Leinster final against Dublin.
Happy to pay good money for a seat in croker for this.
No complaints from me!
And to all the supporters who ain't gonna bother showing, as bill shankly used to say - if ye can't support in the bad times, don't bother supporting in the good times" There's one message needs to be hammered home, and it's the reverse of the norm.
Take your goals and the points will come.
Kildare created three goal chances and fluffed the lot, even Louth who are buck useless created a couple, so we need to try and engineer goals at all opportunities and finish them when we do.
People say the Dubs can go up a gear when they are six or seven points behind.
Up to this point that is an assumption, it's never been proved, so why not have a go and see if they really can come from a bit behind to win.
It is accepted that the Dubs full back line, and I'd throw in the goalie as well, are susceptible under a high ball, well rain those down on them and go from there, nothing wrong with route one.
Goals Goals Goals lads, and plenty of them.
BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 21/06/2019 16:42:45
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Replying To bert09: "Been waiting years for a Leinster final against Dublin.
Happy to pay good money for a seat in croker for this.
No complaints from me!
And to all the supporters who ain't gonna bother showing, as bill shankly used to say - if ye can't support in the bad times, don't bother supporting in the good times" Well said bert.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/06/2019 17:50:36
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Replying To Jack_Goff: "I'll be pleasantly surprised if more then 10k go to the match. The most we've had at any match this year was about half that. I can't see the fanbase doubling, considering the final is Dublin and the price of tickets. Next year the Leinster Council need to change it. €20 for semi finals and €25 for the final. Still pricey for a foregone conclusion but a step in the right direction.
If the bookies are right and we do indeed get a hammering far less will travel to any future finals against them." In fairness I'm bringing kids & €5 is good. If I end up going to the Christy Ring final tomorrow it could be a dear weekend though.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 21/06/2019 19:42:58
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Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "Yes interesting stuff seadog54" I have read some Meath posters wishing for rain on Sunday, such conditions would certainly not suit our running game as described in this excellent analysis..
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 21/06/2019 19:44:36
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Replying To Young_gael: "Lads, the vigour and the frequency of anti-Meath posts over on the National Forum is startling. It's to be expected out of your Louth's and Westmeath's etc, but its coming from all corners. It seems that people genuinely want Meath not only to lose the game but get battered and humiliated in the process. I agree that some of our posters are bananas and put up mad stuff but nonetheless. It seems that the old siege mentality is returning. Although with Meath it does not seem to be self-imposed rather its imposed by popular opinion in other counties, now Im no expert but surely this is a good omen. The best Meath teams were always reviled. They fed off of the negativity and "anybody but Meath" mentality. If this energy could be channeled in the future to organise Meath teams and their supporters as it did in the past, happy days. In saying that, its disappointing to read that not very many posters have any time or any nice sentiment for us at all even though its a very young and new Meath team, full of nice lads, and they are literally facing up to a blue behemoth. Nothing like the games of Meath/Dublin in the past. Even after nearly two decades of being largely uncompetitive there is still a lot of anti-Meath sentiment." Meath teams of the past were no doubt hated in many counties, however they were also hugely respected, I experience this first hand in the 80/90s when I worked and lived in Cork, nevertheless there was always a mix of fear and respect from the opposition. Think the days of that type of team are long gone and cannot see the seige mentality working these days. As you say we will always get anti Meath posts from some of our neighbours who seem more satisifed when we loose than when their own county wins, in fairness there are not too many of them. The negativity and anti-Meath sentiment coming from the rest is down to the mindless posts from one or two Meath posters who show a poor knowledge of the game and a lack of any modicum of common sence.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 21/06/2019 20:10:11
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Replying To BoynesideBlue: "There's one message needs to be hammered home, and it's the reverse of the norm.
Take your goals and the points will come.
Kildare created three goal chances and fluffed the lot, even Louth who are buck useless created a couple, so we need to try and engineer goals at all opportunities and finish them when we do.
People say the Dubs can go up a gear when they are six or seven points behind.
Up to this point that is an assumption, it's never been proved, so why not have a go and see if they really can come from a bit behind to win.
It is accepted that the Dubs full back line, and I'd throw in the goalie as well, are susceptible under a high ball, well rain those down on them and go from there, nothing wrong with route one.
Goals Goals Goals lads, and plenty of them." Its no assumption, they have recovered from bad starts on many occassions. As you say we will need goals but cannot see us lumping high balls into square. To date we have played a running game dont think that will change on Sunday. Although wet weather may see us having to adapt a different strategy
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 21/06/2019 20:20:36
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Replying To royaldunne: "I see on the main forum Kevin Ross is in corner forwards for junior game. Got to say during last years obc he impressed me but faded during league, hopefully he can regain senior next year. Anyone else we should look out for on Sunday???" Robin Clarke Dul/Bell played v Rosscomon challenge might be worth watching to see how he gets on.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 21/06/2019 23:15:08
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Replying To Jack_Goff: "Are fanbase will remain the same. We've had an average of 5k fans going to home/Croker matches. I wouldn't expect many more to travel on Sunday. These 5k fans have been attending with the knowledge we are miles off Dublin so when it's confirmed it won't change much. If anything our fanbase will increase for the league next year.
But it could be very damaging to the team and they might lose long term motivation. We seen what happened to the last decent meath side after getting a few hidings off you in 2013/15.
We seen what happened to Kildare after you Hammered them in the final. They regressed a lot." In essence, in January the main (and somewhat ambitious targets) for the team taking into consideration last years form was to get promoted, make the Leinster final which provides us with 2 opportunities to make the super 8's
We have over achieved already this year and if by some chance we win on Sunday it may perhaps be the biggest upset in GAA history (Dublin are 50/1 on at present)
Also, after Kildare got a hammering last year they won the play off match and made super 8's so if we manage that we must be able to call that progress and a successful season taking into consideration how last season went
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Good to see the improvement in Meath this season and Div 1 will be a help next year. However at this time they are no where near ready to go out and challenge Dublin. Can't see anything other than a 15 point plus Dub win . Reality is that Meath were very poor against a poor Laois side but got away with that. Young Conan whose father is a Monaghan man won't be scoring 5 points this weekend and will called ashore after 45 minutes. Best a neutral can hope for is that Meath try and stay in the game in the first half.
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Replying To BoynesideBlue: "There's one message needs to be hammered home, and it's the reverse of the norm.
Take your goals and the points will come.
Kildare created three goal chances and fluffed the lot, even Louth who are buck useless created a couple, so we need to try and engineer goals at all opportunities and finish them when we do.
People say the Dubs can go up a gear when they are six or seven points behind.
Up to this point that is an assumption, it's never been proved, so why not have a go and see if they really can come from a bit behind to win.
It is accepted that the Dubs full back line, and I'd throw in the goalie as well, are susceptible under a high ball, well rain those down on them and go from there, nothing wrong with route one.
Goals Goals Goals lads, and plenty of them." Well said, don't know who muffed up that saying and said take your points and the goals will come, I'd think to have any chance we'd need 3 and if we could repeat 2010 and knock in 5 we would win I'd have no doubt, wouldn't be as critical about the Dublin full back line and keeper as you, people keep saying they're susceptible under high balls etc. But I never see it
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Same team. However I think Shane mcentee will start instead of Flanagan
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Watch Paddy Brophys goal near the end.
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BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 22/06/2019 10:45:34
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I think we are going to do it. I cant put my finger why. Dublin are way better in nearly every department. I have positive feelings about this game as it gets closer. Come on the royal county !!!
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "I think we are going to do it. I cant put my finger why. Dublin are way better in nearly every department. I have positive feelings about this game as it gets closer. Come on the royal county !!!" Bob me auld segotia so do I.
I believe there are tablets we can get which may help !
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Replying To BoynesideBlue: "Bob me auld segotia so do I.
I believe there are tablets we can get which may help !" Pass some this way also. Because I smell an upset as well. Fingers crossed. Maybe I'm just crazy......
David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 22/06/2019 17:08:05
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We did it in 1945 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it in 1964 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it in 1975 beat an invincible Dublin team
We did it in 1986 beat an invincible Dublin team
We did it 1996 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it 2010 hammer a Dubin team that would soon become invincible.
Yes the rain probably doesn't suit our team style of play. But we need a local derby dogfight. And thr three lowests scoring leinster finals of the last 45 years were the wettest leinster finals. Its nearly alway dry hot weather for leinster final..The last 3 dreadful wet leinster final eg 1986 , 1994 , 1996. Two of them 1986 and 1996 are not only greatest leinster final victories for Meath in leinster finals ever , but the two biggest shocks in leinster final s ( along with Offaly in 97 ) in last half century.
Rain can lead to low scoring games , dogfights, anf yes Dublin could turn on the style in the rain , their lowest scoring All Ireland win in this decade was a very wet Croker in 2015 v kerry where Dublin scored 0 - 12 to win Sam. It was one of the wettest championship games Dublin played in this decade and possibly lowest scoring Dublin championship game since 2011. Even a great team like Dubin can be effect by wet dirty day.
And while our style of play doesnt suit the rain , in the league v kildare in a dreadul snow storm conditions this Meath team showed the old Meath dogfight never say die spirit. So for me for us to put it up to Dublin and yes even beat them we needed rain and muck. We have now rain and muck. Now all we need is 15 Meath men to play the Meath way v Dublin, we need 15 Meath men in the rain and muck to play like 15 possesed Meath men willing to go through brick walls to get the ball in.the rain and muck.If that happens Dublin will not beat us by double digits , if that happens Meath will put it up to Dublin and if Meath get enough breaks keep Dublin goaless another famous Meath victory v the invincible unbeatable Dubs will.again happen.
Basically a 6th generation of Meath footballers will have beaten an unbeatable invincible Dublin team in Croke Park. Its in our dna , it in our blood, its our heritage, its our tradition and its our culture. Its our past present and future. While every other team throws in the towel v Dublin, Meath are the one county who always shout stop, STOP to Dublin..We have always done it. We will always will do it. Just believe Royals, Believe.
And McEntee seems to be able to motivate his teams to perform in big matchs when they r massive underdogs. He did it with Meath minors in 2012 quarter final v Tyrone and semi final v Mayo. He did it in Dublin senior club championship quater final semi final and final.with Ballyboden. And he has done with Meath seniors in the last two years v Galway , Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal in 3 games. This manager teams always up their game in big matchs v best teams, this current team always ups their game in big matchs v the best teams. Meath football in the past always upped their game v strong opposition. Being an underdog who no one gives a chance, Meath football sucess was built on this notion. We wouldnt want it any other way.
So best of luck to Andy and the boys and to all the great Meath men and women on this forum like Royaldunne, Htaem , Young_Gael, Bert09 , Meath 1977 , Usernameinvalid , bobkarlgees , longroadback , the joeshow, Barney123 , leitrimroyal 99 , overthehill 72 , Reco , Crinigan , thelutch , northsidegaels , seadog54 , greenfield, Royal.legend, Aloblack, redser 123 , southmeathgael and even the bold Jack _Goff and many many more . And when that ball is thrown in 4.00 look to the hill everyone of youse and think two things and two thing only . Firstly think we are going to beat this shower today and secondly think u can never ever right of the royals. Thats what I will be think at 4.00 on 23rd June 2019 in wet rainy Croke Park tomorrow. We might have the odd barney on this forum but there is no doubting we all have an unreal passion for Meath football , we are proud Meath to the core and we all want the best for Meath football. And hopefully tomorrow will join 1991 as one of the greatest sporting days of our lifes. Believe Royals Believe.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "We did it in 1945 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it in 1964 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it in 1975 beat an invincible Dublin team
We did it in 1986 beat an invincible Dublin team
We did it 1996 beat an unbeatable Dublin team
We did it 2010 hammer a Dubin team that would soon become invincible.
Yes the rain probably doesn't suit our team style of play. But we need a local derby dogfight. And thr three lowests scoring leinster finals of the last 45 years were the wettest leinster finals. Its nearly alway dry hot weather for leinster final..The last 3 dreadful wet leinster final eg 1986 , 1994 , 1996. Two of them 1986 and 1996 are not only greatest leinster final victories for Meath in leinster finals ever , but the two biggest shocks in leinster final s ( along with Offaly in 97 ) in last half century.
Rain can lead to low scoring games , dogfights, anf yes Dublin could turn on the style in the rain , their lowest scoring All Ireland win in this decade was a very wet Croker in 2015 v kerry where Dublin scored 0 - 12 to win Sam. It was one of the wettest championship games Dublin played in this decade and possibly lowest scoring Dublin championship game since 2011. Even a great team like Dubin can be effect by wet dirty day.
And while our style of play doesnt suit the rain , in the league v kildare in a dreadul snow storm conditions this Meath team showed the old Meath dogfight never say die spirit. So for me for us to put it up to Dublin and yes even beat them we needed rain and muck. We have now rain and muck. Now all we need is 15 Meath men to play the Meath way v Dublin, we need 15 Meath men in the rain and muck to play like 15 possesed Meath men willing to go through brick walls to get the ball in.the rain and muck.If that happens Dublin will not beat us by double digits , if that happens Meath will put it up to Dublin and if Meath get enough breaks keep Dublin goaless another famous Meath victory v the invincible unbeatable Dubs will.again happen.
Basically a 6th generation of Meath footballers will have beaten an unbeatable invincible Dublin team in Croke Park. Its in our dna , it in our blood, its our heritage, its our tradition and its our culture. Its our past present and future. While every other team throws in the towel v Dublin, Meath are the one county who always shout stop, STOP to Dublin..We have always done it. We will always will do it. Just believe Royals, Believe.
And McEntee seems to be able to motivate his teams to perform in big matchs when they r massive underdogs. He did it with Meath minors in 2012 quarter final v Tyrone and semi final v Mayo. He did it in Dublin senior club championship quater final semi final and final.with Ballyboden. And he has done with Meath seniors in the last two years v Galway , Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal in 3 games. This manager teams always up their game in big matchs v best teams, this current team always ups their game in big matchs v the best teams. Meath football in the past always upped their game v strong opposition. Being an underdog who no one gives a chance, Meath football sucess was built on this notion. We wouldnt want it any other way.
So best of luck to Andy and the boys and to all the great Meath men and women on this forum like Royaldunne, Htaem , Young_Gael, Bert09 , Meath 1977 , Usernameinvalid , bobkarlgees , longroadback , the joeshow, Barney123 , leitrimroyal 99 , overthehill 72 , Reco , Crinigan , thelutch , northsidegaels , seadog54 , greenfield, Royal.legend, Aloblack, redser 123 , southmeathgael and even the bold Jack _Goff and many many more . And when that ball is thrown in 4.00 look to the hill everyone of youse and think two things and two thing only . Firstly think we are going to beat this shower today and secondly think u can never ever right of the royals. Thats what I will be think at 4.00 on 23rd June 2019 in wet rainy Croke Park tomorrow. We might have the odd barney on this forum but there is no doubting we all have an unreal passion for Meath football , we are proud Meath to the core and we all want the best for Meath football. And hopefully tomorrow will join 1991 as one of the greatest sporting days of our lifes. Believe Royals Believe." Great post, it's put me in good form this evening. I cant wait to hit the road tomorrow, no matter what happens and what people say about the provincials it's great to be back in a Leinster Final and its been a (nerve-racking) pleasure following this Meath team this season! I'm absolutely buzzing with adrenaline, you'd think I was togging out myself. In spite of the disagreements during the week between us here, and us vs. the world over on the national forum, we are where we are and I cant bloody wait to see my team take on the blue monster. Tomorrow we come together as Meath supporters to celebrate a fabled fixture, I hope it lives up to its legendary reputation, regardless of the result. Damn the begrudgers.
Up the Royals.
Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 589 - 22/06/2019 19:55:50
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