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Meath V Kildare

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Replying To royal69er:  "1 Yes at times we were poor as were Kildare, did ya not notice the conditions ?? 2. The game has changed its not 1991, Cillian was immense today making interceptions in the backs, winning dirty ball in midfield & scoring a monster point. 3 yes Kildare lauded midfield in FIRST half, how come they didnt do the same in 2nd ?? 4. Its a reflection of how far we have come since the days of coughing up 8 & 9 point leads that people were happy coming out of pt. As a SUPPORTER, ( you might want to look up that word), I want to see improvement in the team & this year I've seen plenty of it. We need to keep that up against Clare on the 16th. HON THE ROYALS"
Great post sums it up today's game perfectly

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 03/03/2019 21:24:57    2169897

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Some aspects of our performance were disappointing but when you look at how bad the weather was and how good would we be if we improved on our shot taking and other little basic things that can be put right fairly quickly. A more worrying thing would be if the players didn't have any belief and just accepted the loss today or to just to stay in Division 2. There is a real fight and confidence in their own ability within this Meath team and that showed today.

Really sad to hear of Kane's injury, great to see him in a Meath jersey after great displays with Simonstown and has impressed so far in the Meath jersey. Him and James McEntee offer us something none of our other half backs do. Think Harnan should get his position.

Clare will be a tough opposition but I believe our backs should be good enough to stop their great forwards. Hopefully our forwards will be on form in front of the posts so we can get the win.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 03/03/2019 21:49:27    2169913

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Replying To Barney123:  "Some aspects of our performance were disappointing but when you look at how bad the weather was and how good would we be if we improved on our shot taking and other little basic things that can be put right fairly quickly. A more worrying thing would be if the players didn't have any belief and just accepted the loss today or to just to stay in Division 2. There is a real fight and confidence in their own ability within this Meath team and that showed today.

Really sad to hear of Kane's injury, great to see him in a Meath jersey after great displays with Simonstown and has impressed so far in the Meath jersey. Him and James McEntee offer us something none of our other half backs do. Think Harnan should get his position.

Clare will be a tough opposition but I believe our backs should be good enough to stop their great forwards. Hopefully our forwards will be on form in front of the posts so we can get the win."
Yes Clare will be tough but show the determination and work rate of today and it's winnable, Clare need points for a different reason and this will be a tough challenge, we need to finish on more than 10 points as if Donegal were to reach 10 (their maximum) and we finished on 10 they would pip us on the head to head so we need 3 points from our last two games to be sure of promotion, very achievable but given that both Clare and Fermanagh will have something to play for in both games we can expect very tough challenges. Fermanagh have the head to head advantage over Donegal if they finished level on points and if the three of us finished level our score advantage is superior, to simplify it let's just win our lady two games and go up in style.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 03/03/2019 22:20:39    2169923

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What is Kane's injury? Is it bad? He's been a great addition to the squad. Hope it's nothing long term.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 03/03/2019 22:27:11    2169924

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Replying To nobull456:  "I was at the same match.....Eventhough we won i was disappointed . Two poor teams... Yes Meath were better in the last 15 mins after being clueless in the first half. The penalty was fully deserved,well taken , but put a shine on our fight back qualities .Kildare had enough possesion to win even after the penalty...Our midfield poor. Our full forwards never in situ when needed at the end of attack from defence. There is no blind optimism on the basis of this display from this supporter."
I know where you are coming from but i think you are being a bit harsh on both teams if i am honest.

The conditions played a big part in that game and it turned the game into a bit of a dog fight.

There were plenty of things you could be critical of in terms of Meath's performance and some of them may well come back to haunt us later on in the year but to be fair to them they battled hard and kept going until the end.

It would have been a bad game to lose but the penalty came about because Meath put themselves into that position and therefore made their own luck and thats what the good teams do.

Kildare will be disappointed to lose and overall I was not overly impressed with them but on a different day with different conditions they may prove a handful for many teams.

We have put ourselves in a very strong position with regard promotion and a win for us against Clare next and Donegal will have to win against Cork otherwise we are promoted with a game to spare. If both of us win, Donegal will have to beat Kildare in their last game and hope we lose to Fermanagh.

A loss for both Meath and Fermangh in one of their last two games and two Donegal wins would leave all 3 teams on 10 points and then head to head goes out the window and the points difference we have should also see us through.

However if we want to really compete in Division 1 next year then we should be looking to beat both Clare and Fermanagh and i think we should.

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 03/03/2019 22:34:17    2169929

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a win against Fermanagh should be enough for promotion

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 03/03/2019 22:42:47    2169930

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Really enjoyed that win, in those conditions it was a real dog fight. Have showed heart in last 2 games in Navan to win. Some of the complaints about missing chances are ott, the conditions, especially in the second half were so bad today. The conditions played into Kildare's hand in the second half regarding the way they tried to sit back on their lead.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 03/03/2019 22:52:36    2169933

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Replying To Foley91:  "Against popular opinion I'm with nobull on this. Meath were very poor at times and pass and shot selection was well below whats required. I'm not sure what o'sullivans role is. He's all over the place and on a wet day carried the ball for too long. We were wide open in the first half and our full back ok were exposed one on one. Kildare lauded the midfield in the first half. It's a reflection of how far we've fallen that we are dancing out of navan in March after a win over a poor kildare team on the way down."
Hold on. where you in navan when we lost by 8 points to cavan four years ago ? Where you in croke park when we lost to westmeath? Or at the last two times we got slaughtered against kildare? I am guessed yes to most or all above. Of course we have fallen. Sure everyone knows it.... but we ground out a result and we 100% desevered it. I am sure Galway and Tyrone had some poor performances in div 2 battles but they don't dwell it's all about results. That said we are far from promoted yet. Poor enough performance today but we still won. Meath NEVER do anything simple it's always been the case. Sure only last night I watched Meath v Louth 97 on YouTube and I and still not sure how we won that game.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 03/03/2019 22:59:40    2169935

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Every team has something to play for in 2 weeks. Teams battling for promotion or to avoid relegation. If Meath lose to Kildare we know then we have to beat Fermanagh to get promoted and if Cork beat Donegal we know beating Clare or Fermanagh will be enough. Personally I'd like a Fermanagh v Meath final.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/03/2019 01:20:30    2169959

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Am I the only one who thought Cillian O Sullivan had a very poor game? Lost a crazy amount of ball in the tackle

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 04/03/2019 06:51:49    2169966

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Fantastic to win like we did yesterday in Terrible conditions . To be honest we should have won by a good bit more we were completely on top in the second half. All our backs were on top and gave 100% the big change again was the subs. Reilly Kane , Harnan and Dardis gave that extra bit of pace. Probably one of the best performances i have seen by COS his energy and drive was immense . Only a few things i was not to happy about was obviously the 2 bad injuries. You cant be anything but delighted after yesterdays win though we have our hunger well and truly back. I could barely walk back to the car after the game with the heavy snow so i was amazed how they played so well in it. This game was like the 97 games never die right til the end games you wouldn't see in the championship since the back door was invented.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 04/03/2019 07:44:17    2169971

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It was an awful day for a game - and I think this was reflected in the standard of both teams - but looking at the highlights of the other games last night that were held over the weekend I don't think there was a huge difference!
What I do think there has been a big improvement in is the mental side - yesterday was one of those games that would have slipped away in recent years!
Clare on the 16th - I think it will be a really tough game - It is Clares last home game and they are looking at relegation if they lose. There isn't a huge amount to choose between all the teams in Division 2 . With Michael Murphy back for Donegal - I think they will win both their remaining fixtures and finish on 10 points. So both our final two games are important! A win against Clare is a must and I think we have the squad and mental strength to do it!!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 04/03/2019 08:34:52    2169976

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I left the forum years ago but on reading some of the reviews of the game i felt it was time to come back and give my view.
Conditions were horrific and both teams are to be commended for actually putting up a decent performance. Yes Meath made mistakes but at least this year they are learning from their mistakes.
They defended well in the last two minutes as they failed to do it against Tyrone last year. Meath have found some e new decent players Campion Brennan Ryan Gallagher kane etd. They have a Solid back line and individual forwards who can be brilliant but need to become more team players and have to be more consistent
Management have improved . Half time substitutes made a big difference yesterday and previous examples have also worked o sullivan o reilly v Tipperary. Also half time team talk worked yesterday as Meath never allowed any Kildare player settle on the ball in second half which resulted in a lot of turnovers.
Tactics and Fitness has definitely improved penalty and chance that Kildare keeper made a good save from were created by our fullback and half back. Meath players going to end while kildare were falling all over the place with cramp and injuries.
So not getting carried away but all anyone can ask is for improvement and people trying their best to teh end and thats what supporters are getting.
If and a big if they keep improving then a great season will be promotion and super 8's
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belladon (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 04/03/2019 08:37:45    2169977

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Replying To Richieq:  "Yes Clare will be tough but show the determination and work rate of today and it's winnable, Clare need points for a different reason and this will be a tough challenge, we need to finish on more than 10 points as if Donegal were to reach 10 (their maximum) and we finished on 10 they would pip us on the head to head so we need 3 points from our last two games to be sure of promotion, very achievable but given that both Clare and Fermanagh will have something to play for in both games we can expect very tough challenges. Fermanagh have the head to head advantage over Donegal if they finished level on points and if the three of us finished level our score advantage is superior, to simplify it let's just win our lady two games and go up in style."
Well, that was a bitterly cold day in Navan yesterday. Fair play to all the supporters from both sides that made it. I thought that this was a game that Kildare will be kicking themselves that they lost as they were much more efficient in front of goal in the first half.
Kildare's defensive tactics were a bit on the edge but I thought that Ben Brennan's 2 points early in the second half were the boost the Meath team needed to keep pushing on. Not sure if Kildare were time wasting a bit with the injuries but they seemed to be trying to contain the game instead of going for it.
For me Ben Brennan was probably man of the match with crucial scores with Cillian O'Sullivan getting huge work in also. But the crucial intervention for me was from Graham Reilly who sent in a pin point pass to Conor McGill which resulted in the penalty.
Overall, neither team excelled but they were very difficult conditions and it's great to see a Meath team again that is prepared to fight until the end of the game. If we play Kildare again in the summer we can expect a backlash as they have a lot of young players coming through and are probably a bit further on in development even though we snatched this one.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 04/03/2019 08:43:29    2169978

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Ok Ok everyone needs to relax. My point is we should not build this up. I would be happy had this happened in Donegal or against a top 5 team but Kildare are no great shakes. We don't want to be ambushed down in Ennis and really the players need to stay grounded. There are 2 huge matches left.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 04/03/2019 09:54:09    2169995

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "Am I the only one who thought Cillian O Sullivan had a very poor game? Lost a crazy amount of ball in the tackle"
Wouldn't say he had a poor game but he continues to loose handy ball way to often this happens in every game with him .

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 266 - 04/03/2019 09:56:45    2169997

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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST:  "I know where you are coming from but i think you are being a bit harsh on both teams if i am honest.

The conditions played a big part in that game and it turned the game into a bit of a dog fight.

There were plenty of things you could be critical of in terms of Meath's performance and some of them may well come back to haunt us later on in the year but to be fair to them they battled hard and kept going until the end.

It would have been a bad game to lose but the penalty came about because Meath put themselves into that position and therefore made their own luck and thats what the good teams do.

Kildare will be disappointed to lose and overall I was not overly impressed with them but on a different day with different conditions they may prove a handful for many teams.

We have put ourselves in a very strong position with regard promotion and a win for us against Clare next and Donegal will have to win against Cork otherwise we are promoted with a game to spare. If both of us win, Donegal will have to beat Kildare in their last game and hope we lose to Fermanagh.

A loss for both Meath and Fermangh in one of their last two games and two Donegal wins would leave all 3 teams on 10 points and then head to head goes out the window and the points difference we have should also see us through.

However if we want to really compete in Division 1 next year then we should be looking to beat both Clare and Fermanagh and i think we should."
The Clare game seems the vital one. If Meath win and Fermanagh lose next day out then the points difference may prove important. If Meath and Fermanagh both win then I think Fermanagh will be guaranteed promotion before the game in Navan.
Either was a win for Meath in Ennis is the important part.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 04/03/2019 10:07:03    2170005

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Congrats to Meath on a fantastic win. Division One is now in the Royals hands.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 04/03/2019 11:14:03    2170036

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It's important we beat Kildare but equally as important Fermanagh beat Armagh. Armagh switched the venue to Crossmaglen so they are trying everything in their power to win it. If cork or Kildare can beat donegal either that would be huge.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/03/2019 11:25:03    2170040

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Well, that was a bitterly cold day in Navan yesterday. Fair play to all the supporters from both sides that made it. I thought that this was a game that Kildare will be kicking themselves that they lost as they were much more efficient in front of goal in the first half.
Kildare's defensive tactics were a bit on the edge but I thought that Ben Brennan's 2 points early in the second half were the boost the Meath team needed to keep pushing on. Not sure if Kildare were time wasting a bit with the injuries but they seemed to be trying to contain the game instead of going for it.
For me Ben Brennan was probably man of the match with crucial scores with Cillian O'Sullivan getting huge work in also. But the crucial intervention for me was from Graham Reilly who sent in a pin point pass to Conor McGill which resulted in the penalty.
Overall, neither team excelled but they were very difficult conditions and it's great to see a Meath team again that is prepared to fight until the end of the game. If we play Kildare again in the summer we can expect a backlash as they have a lot of young players coming through and are probably a bit further on in development even though we snatched this one."
We won't play Kildare in Leinster. Dublin will beat them handily if they over come Longford. If we play Dublin we'll be lucky to get within 10 points. The gap may be closing but it's still a huge gap.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/03/2019 11:29:37    2170043

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