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Replying To Meathmaster:  "Cortown and Clonard not on this weekend because of Adam Flanagans involvement with the Meath team"
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Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 10/06/2017 12:29:21    1997551

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Does anybody actually believe there will be a full round of championship involving meath players played 2 weeks before a leinster final should meath beat Kildare ??

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 14/06/2017 10:30:21    1999456

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Replying To sam1996:  "Does anybody actually believe there will be a full round of championship involving meath players played 2 weeks before a leinster final should meath beat Kildare ??"
leinster final is the 16th of july so yes there should be....their better off playing full blooded competititve games than just training

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 14/06/2017 10:59:32    1999477

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Replying To sam1996:  "Does anybody actually believe there will be a full round of championship involving meath players played 2 weeks before a leinster final should meath beat Kildare ??"
Can't see Andy Mc wanting the games to go ahead if we win Saturday but they should.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 14/06/2017 11:16:07    1999491

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Replying To sam1996:  "Does anybody actually believe there will be a full round of championship involving meath players played 2 weeks before a leinster final should meath beat Kildare ??"
If they don't go ahead then there has to be serious questions as to why they were fixed in the first place. I realise we are top of the class when it comes to being inept in organising gaa in Meath but surely prior to fixtures being released the Meath management were informed and now that fixtures are made of Meath win they must go ahead or the integrity (whats left of it) of the fixtures committee is completely shattered. On a side note Fixtures being made with 10 days notice is in itself unfair given that planner had round 2 for June 10 and round 3 for July 22nd. Lads would have factored in those dates around holidays etc

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 14/06/2017 13:36:52    1999572

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Replying To Analyst:  "If they don't go ahead then there has to be serious questions as to why they were fixed in the first place. I realise we are top of the class when it comes to being inept in organising gaa in Meath but surely prior to fixtures being released the Meath management were informed and now that fixtures are made of Meath win they must go ahead or the integrity (whats left of it) of the fixtures committee is completely shattered. On a side note Fixtures being made with 10 days notice is in itself unfair given that planner had round 2 for June 10 and round 3 for July 22nd. Lads would have factored in those dates around holidays etc"
yes I agree with what you are saying surely it had be run by meath management before being released. I just cant see how management will risk the likes of graham reilly 2/3 weeks before a leister final. If they are pulled it is a disgrace after being released but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Also it is completely unfair to be fixing games with less than 2 weeks notice when there was no indication of this on planner. I know plenty of lads who have holidays booked in these weeks who either have to change them last minute or miss out on championship they have trained all year for.

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 14/06/2017 13:50:14    1999580

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Replying To Analyst:  "If they don't go ahead then there has to be serious questions as to why they were fixed in the first place. I realise we are top of the class when it comes to being inept in organising gaa in Meath but surely prior to fixtures being released the Meath management were informed and now that fixtures are made of Meath win they must go ahead or the integrity (whats left of it) of the fixtures committee is completely shattered. On a side note Fixtures being made with 10 days notice is in itself unfair given that planner had round 2 for June 10 and round 3 for July 22nd. Lads would have factored in those dates around holidays etc"
Its an absolute joke!! Holidays will have been factored in definitely regarding the planner, If every team started to put in objections to playing the matches due to pre-planned holidays it would be interesting to see what happened.....and it something that I think the clubs should do as well. Unless Clubs in the county actually made a serious objection then the fixtures committee will continue to mix and match every year and it will continue to be a shambles.

Personally I dont see why it cant be all cup competitions run off in Feb/March, then League straight through from say end of April through to mid June and then championship played on a weekly/fortnightly basis from August onwards when teams have all players available for a continuous period of time to plan and prepare with. It also means that form will count for something from start to finish unlike at the minute where most teams will be running completely differently from Fixture 1 in April/May to Fixture 3 in August!!

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 14/06/2017 14:02:55    1999588

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Replying To Analyst:  "If they don't go ahead then there has to be serious questions as to why they were fixed in the first place. I realise we are top of the class when it comes to being inept in organising gaa in Meath but surely prior to fixtures being released the Meath management were informed and now that fixtures are made of Meath win they must go ahead or the integrity (whats left of it) of the fixtures committee is completely shattered. On a side note Fixtures being made with 10 days notice is in itself unfair given that planner had round 2 for June 10 and round 3 for July 22nd. Lads would have factored in those dates around holidays etc"
agreed our championship always suffers at this time of year and these rounds need to be played

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 14/06/2017 14:04:51    1999589

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Replying To ratlag:  "Its an absolute joke!! Holidays will have been factored in definitely regarding the planner, If every team started to put in objections to playing the matches due to pre-planned holidays it would be interesting to see what happened.....and it something that I think the clubs should do as well. Unless Clubs in the county actually made a serious objection then the fixtures committee will continue to mix and match every year and it will continue to be a shambles.

Personally I dont see why it cant be all cup competitions run off in Feb/March, then League straight through from say end of April through to mid June and then championship played on a weekly/fortnightly basis from August onwards when teams have all players available for a continuous period of time to plan and prepare with. It also means that form will count for something from start to finish unlike at the minute where most teams will be running completely differently from Fixture 1 in April/May to Fixture 3 in August!!"
Suppose the fact that it takes 17 dates to run SFC and SHC means that you can't do as you say as even from mid august to end October is only 10 weekends.

It's 4 weeks from Saturday till Leinster final so I expect championship will go ahead once meath win

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 14/06/2017 16:59:07    1999662

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Replying To Brownepat:  "Suppose the fact that it takes 17 dates to run SFC and SHC means that you can't do as you say as even from mid august to end October is only 10 weekends.

It's 4 weeks from Saturday till Leinster final so I expect championship will go ahead once meath win"
SFC would only take 7 weeks to run off if my maths are correct (4 group games, 1/4 finals. semi final and final)!! SHC can be done over the summer months once the Meath Hurlers have finished their campaign, only 2 dual players and their Club games could be put on in these 3 week gaps between Meath football rounds without it affecting the Senior Football training I don't think it says anywhere that they MUST be run off at the same time is there??

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 14/06/2017 17:19:49    1999672

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Replying To ratlag:  "SFC would only take 7 weeks to run off if my maths are correct (4 group games, 1/4 finals. semi final and final)!! SHC can be done over the summer months once the Meath Hurlers have finished their campaign, only 2 dual players and their Club games could be put on in these 3 week gaps between Meath football rounds without it affecting the Senior Football training I don't think it says anywhere that they MUST be run off at the same time is there??"
9 dates for football 8 for hurling. Adds up to 17. Not mad into hurling myself but feck them into the summer along with football and hurling leagues don't seem to solve anything

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 14/06/2017 18:52:11    1999701

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Making complete joke of club championship. Planner my a.se just get it out of the way.but doubt if Meath win we see senior championship. Juniors on other hand can play away except clonard got one representative. Not dig at clonard so don't go ape there.exams holidays life in general means nothing to these people.we seem to b employing Dublin's midweek game strategy if I was sponsoring a championship I'd b asking questions not to big crowds on wed even in pairc tailteann for these matches.no value there

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 14/06/2017 19:12:30    1999705

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This is why we have the CPA now. What is the point of playing a round of championship in June. How can anyone on a county panel truly focus and give 100% in a championship match for club if (hopefully) in a leinster final. A total rethink needed

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 343 - 15/06/2017 07:56:51    1999798

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "9 dates for football 8 for hurling. Adds up to 17. Not mad into hurling myself but feck them into the summer along with football and hurling leagues don't seem to solve anything"
Its not fecking the hurlers into the middle of Summer for the sake of it, its playing it off while they would otherwise be doing very little else after the Meath Senior team have finished their respective competition!! If it was the other way around I would say play the football over the summer months and the hurling in August!!

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 15/06/2017 08:05:30    1999800

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Replying To Reco:  "Making complete joke of club championship. Planner my a.se just get it out of the way.but doubt if Meath win we see senior championship. Juniors on other hand can play away except clonard got one representative. Not dig at clonard so don't go ape there.exams holidays life in general means nothing to these people.we seem to b employing Dublin's midweek game strategy if I was sponsoring a championship I'd b asking questions not to big crowds on wed even in pairc tailteann for these matches.no value there"
complete disregard for the ordinary player, i know lads who have cancelled holidays because they have brought championship forward, and before someone says they shouldnt be making plans like that they were following the planner set out in january hardly fair on them at all

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 15/06/2017 08:40:25    1999810

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Replying To srgt_slaughter:  "complete disregard for the ordinary player, i know lads who have cancelled holidays because they have brought championship forward, and before someone says they shouldnt be making plans like that they were following the planner set out in january hardly fair on them at all"
Exactly no championship for next week July was next date so lads I know booked week away now there team will suffer for it.they rang co board but they just said tough luck have get on with it.clubs don't matter to them.maddening stuff for players and managers to deal with.

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 15/06/2017 13:23:02    1999923

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It is an absolute disgrace that the County Board have thrown these fixtures in here with 3 weeks notice. Last Jan/Feb they released a master fixture planner which had this weekend free of any football championship. Now, with little notice, they have thrown these fixtures in with no regard for club players. Many club players would have highlighted this time to plan holidays with family/friends. Now the county board have put these club players in a no win situation in which the only outcome is one where they are the bad guy.
Go on the holiday - you let down your friends, teammates, club.
Change your holiday/don't go and play the match - you let down your partner, kids, family, friends.

Along with this stress that they have now put on these players, there is also a financial aspect to this with the cost of changing flights, cancelling holidays, missing a day or two of accommodation. Who foots that bill?
It shows a complete disrespect towards the very club players they are elected to serve.

I fully understand that fixture planning must be a nightmare and that the master planner will change but surely throwing important fixtures, like championship, in with only 3 weeks cannot be allowed, and is not acceptable. Highlight potential championship weekends on the master planner at the start and then if they don't materialise then at least the players/clubs were aware that and could have planned holidays for another time.

If these fixtures go ahead it is a disgrace.

royal96 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 15/06/2017 13:24:46    1999926

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Replying To ratlag:  "Its not fecking the hurlers into the middle of Summer for the sake of it, its playing it off while they would otherwise be doing very little else after the Meath Senior team have finished their respective competition!! If it was the other way around I would say play the football over the summer months and the hurling in August!!"
then how do you accomadte those who are on the football panel who play hurling? likes of toher, burke, mcmahon and mcgill?

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 15/06/2017 15:22:42    1999984

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Replying To srgt_slaughter:  "then how do you accomadte those who are on the football panel who play hurling? likes of toher, burke, mcmahon and mcgill?"
With the number of dual players being so low it would be easier to accommodate the game for their clubs between the Senior Football fixtures, example if the hurling championship was all fixed for next weekend there would be no issues at all re County footballers playing (shouldn't be anyway) If it was a case that Meath were to lose against Kildare and enter the qualifiers in 2 weeks then their teams matches could be fixed for the Thurs/Friday of next week giving time before the football. I know it still isn't ideal on the dual players, but my point is that all fixtures would be st and wouldn't be getting chopped and changed around due to the county team of the same codes progress. The point I'm trying to make is that for the CLUB players, they would then have DEFINITE dates as to when the championship will be getting played and won't be affected by County games and can book holidays etc without having to worry about missing a game that's thrown in at 2 weeks notice. There would still be a 2 week gap at the end of July/begining of August for dual club players to take holidays, dual county players are in the same position they are in at the minute anyway with the football championship layout regardless

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 15/06/2017 17:04:33    2000031

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Replying To royal96:  "It is an absolute disgrace that the County Board have thrown these fixtures in here with 3 weeks notice. Last Jan/Feb they released a master fixture planner which had this weekend free of any football championship. Now, with little notice, they have thrown these fixtures in with no regard for club players. Many club players would have highlighted this time to plan holidays with family/friends. Now the county board have put these club players in a no win situation in which the only outcome is one where they are the bad guy.
Go on the holiday - you let down your friends, teammates, club.
Change your holiday/don't go and play the match - you let down your partner, kids, family, friends.

Along with this stress that they have now put on these players, there is also a financial aspect to this with the cost of changing flights, cancelling holidays, missing a day or two of accommodation. Who foots that bill?
It shows a complete disrespect towards the very club players they are elected to serve.

I fully understand that fixture planning must be a nightmare and that the master planner will change but surely throwing important fixtures, like championship, in with only 3 weeks cannot be allowed, and is not acceptable. Highlight potential championship weekends on the master planner at the start and then if they don't materialise then at least the players/clubs were aware that and could have planned holidays for another time.

If these fixtures go ahead it is a disgrace."
Agree with you but now after fixing games it will be another farce if eat win and they then call them off......does the word foresight or the term "planning" mean anything. ....

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 15/06/2017 17:18:34    2000042

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