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Replying To hurlit:  "7 players from his entire squad
how many of those will start?

its a second team all ireland
does anybody really care?

playing a kilkenny football team in the all ireland semi sums it up really"
1 damo Healy started in semi and he didn't figure in Leinster games

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 28/07/2017 19:03:46    2025083

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the junior team is a development team for the senior team
you are hope to get a few players to push for places on the senior team next year

nothing to do with rivalry some always like to bring into it
it would be nice to win it yes , but lets not get carried away, very few counties take it serious anymore

there was people getting excited over beating a kilkenny football team here a few weeks ago
as a proud football county is this what we have sunk to?
im more excited to see our u17s to be honest

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 416 - 28/07/2017 19:53:30    2025097

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Replying To hurlit:  "the junior team is a development team for the senior team
you are hope to get a few players to push for places on the senior team next year

nothing to do with rivalry some always like to bring into it
it would be nice to win it yes , but lets not get carried away, very few counties take it serious anymore

there was people getting excited over beating a kilkenny football team here a few weeks ago
as a proud football county is this what we have sunk to?
im more excited to see our u17s to be honest"
who was excited to see us beat kilkenny?

do agree with your comment about the u17's though..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 28/07/2017 20:35:42    2025106

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Replying To hurlit:  "the junior team is a development team for the senior team
you are hope to get a few players to push for places on the senior team next year

nothing to do with rivalry some always like to bring into it
it would be nice to win it yes , but lets not get carried away, very few counties take it serious anymore

there was people getting excited over beating a kilkenny football team here a few weeks ago
as a proud football county is this what we have sunk to?
im more excited to see our u17s to be honest"
UI don't know where that thought process is coming from . It's a distinct . Development teams don't have championships . Don belittle the achievement of this group of players .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 01/08/2017 15:54:57    2027451

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Replying To hurlit:  "the junior team is a development team for the senior team
you are hope to get a few players to push for places on the senior team next year

nothing to do with rivalry some always like to bring into it
it would be nice to win it yes , but lets not get carried away, very few counties take it serious anymore

there was people getting excited over beating a kilkenny football team here a few weeks ago
as a proud football county is this what we have sunk to?
im more excited to see our u17s to be honest"
Well the pride didn't only come from winning the Senior . It also came from been competitive at other levels .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 01/08/2017 15:56:54    2027453

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winning at underage/junior inspires a winning mentality and confidence..

anyway who is going and what are the ticket prices?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/08/2017 18:40:07    2028036

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "winning at underage/junior inspires a winning mentality and confidence..

anyway who is going and what are the ticket prices?"
Exactly Ziggy , and it fosters something that is difficult to address on a training field , and that is mental strength and a winning mentality that comes for winning achieving a goal . Because the pressure encountered in the penultimate stages of a competition are unique to those stages . You can train for intensity , volume etc. coming up to a final . But you cannot train for the innate mental pressure of been in that environment ( the fear of underperforming etc. ) . That is why Sport Psychologist / Analysts always hark back to the old saying , "they've been here before , they know what it takes " . so dismissing a winning mentality at any stage in the development of a player is wrong . Because they no matter at what level they have competed or won , have a mental knowledge of the innate mental pressure that is exerted in these situations . (It is also another reason why Sport Psychologists agree that the lack of success of this current May team is a mental thing ..... Which has been proven time and time again . ). People talk about a break through in mindset when it comes to winning , Mayo have not been able to achieve it at the level they require .....
A winning mentality is critical at all levels for Meath to be competitive again . That is why , when I hear PARTICIPANTS on this forum OR OTHER FORUMS , dissing , or downgrading achievements at any level , it gets my goat up .....
Winning is winning ....... No matter at what level ...And it adds so much to the armoury , that it cant be quantified straight away .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 03/08/2017 09:05:54    2028254

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Replying To Meath_True:  "Exactly Ziggy , and it fosters something that is difficult to address on a training field , and that is mental strength and a winning mentality that comes for winning achieving a goal . Because the pressure encountered in the penultimate stages of a competition are unique to those stages . You can train for intensity , volume etc. coming up to a final . But you cannot train for the innate mental pressure of been in that environment ( the fear of underperforming etc. ) . That is why Sport Psychologist / Analysts always hark back to the old saying , "they've been here before , they know what it takes " . so dismissing a winning mentality at any stage in the development of a player is wrong . Because they no matter at what level they have competed or won , have a mental knowledge of the innate mental pressure that is exerted in these situations . (It is also another reason why Sport Psychologists agree that the lack of success of this current May team is a mental thing ..... Which has been proven time and time again . ). People talk about a break through in mindset when it comes to winning , Mayo have not been able to achieve it at the level they require .....
A winning mentality is critical at all levels for Meath to be competitive again . That is why , when I hear PARTICIPANTS on this forum OR OTHER FORUMS , dissing , or downgrading achievements at any level , it gets my goat up .....
Winning is winning ....... No matter at what level ...And it adds so much to the armoury , that it cant be quantified straight away ."
daire rowe was talking about how his generation don't really have that winning mentality because he/they are not used to seeing meath win. he said his father goes on about the great meath teams of the past etc. daire went on to say that it is important that meath find that.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/08/2017 10:51:55    2028300

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Replying To Meath_True:  "Exactly Ziggy , and it fosters something that is difficult to address on a training field , and that is mental strength and a winning mentality that comes for winning achieving a goal . Because the pressure encountered in the penultimate stages of a competition are unique to those stages . You can train for intensity , volume etc. coming up to a final . But you cannot train for the innate mental pressure of been in that environment ( the fear of underperforming etc. ) . That is why Sport Psychologist / Analysts always hark back to the old saying , "they've been here before , they know what it takes " . so dismissing a winning mentality at any stage in the development of a player is wrong . Because they no matter at what level they have competed or won , have a mental knowledge of the innate mental pressure that is exerted in these situations . (It is also another reason why Sport Psychologists agree that the lack of success of this current May team is a mental thing ..... Which has been proven time and time again . ). People talk about a break through in mindset when it comes to winning , Mayo have not been able to achieve it at the level they require .....
A winning mentality is critical at all levels for Meath to be competitive again . That is why , when I hear PARTICIPANTS on this forum OR OTHER FORUMS , dissing , or downgrading achievements at any level , it gets my goat up .....
Winning is winning ....... No matter at what level ...And it adds so much to the armoury , that it cant be quantified straight away ."
yes and say if mayo won the all-ireland in 96,i bet they would have won more since..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/08/2017 10:54:07    2028302

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is kennelly injured? big loss for this team.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/08/2017 19:06:00    2029071

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Well beaten by Kerry, 1-14 to 2-19

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 05/08/2017 16:27:09    2029316

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Hard luck to this group of players who have done exceptionally well this year in winning a provincial title and reaching an All Ireland Final, Kerry sounded the stronger team which given their championship format is no surprise but it sounded that Meath never lay down and kept on battling which are all important attributes, hopefully their experiences of this year will stand them in good stead going forward.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/08/2017 17:09:27    2029326

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Good run this year from Meath. Overall their opposition wasn't great up until the final and that might have worked against them not playing a tough match but in fairness a few lads really stood out. I expect 4/5 to be in training with the seniors next year.
The manager must be kicking himself for dropping Conlon, came on after 20 mins and kicked 4 from play. Would it have affected the overall result if he started, probably not but it's still a sore one. What's ifs and maybes.
Changing the rule to having an under 23/24 team whatever is was is definitely the way to go. Maybe taken more seriously again next year and lads in training a bit sooner. Onwards and upwards for these lads.
Tough run for the lads involved, back to A league Monday and championship during the week. Player welfare and all that.

Keeks (Louth) - Posts: 146 - 05/08/2017 17:34:30    2029332

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poor stuff another reminder where we are at as a football county

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 05/08/2017 17:42:43    2029337

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`thought it was closer than the score suggested. meath missed some good goal opportunities for,but kerry were the better side and their players have a mentality of winning that we just don't have right now. thought conlon was good,he is light,but quick,make great runs and can score. rowe didn't have his best game,but the lads kept going. flanagan was a major disappointment for a player on the senior panel..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2017 17:53:11    2029340

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Replying To Keeks:  "Good run this year from Meath. Overall their opposition wasn't great up until the final and that might have worked against them not playing a tough match but in fairness a few lads really stood out. I expect 4/5 to be in training with the seniors next year.
The manager must be kicking himself for dropping Conlon, came on after 20 mins and kicked 4 from play. Would it have affected the overall result if he started, probably not but it's still a sore one. What's ifs and maybes.
Changing the rule to having an under 23/24 team whatever is was is definitely the way to go. Maybe taken more seriously again next year and lads in training a bit sooner. Onwards and upwards for these lads.
Tough run for the lads involved, back to A league Monday and championship during the week. Player welfare and all that."
conlon was flown back from new york to play,but should have started yeah.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2017 17:54:45    2029343

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Kerry were streets ahead of us today, we were nowhere near their level. Our seniors were a big let dow unfortunately

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 05/08/2017 18:45:41    2029368

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Replying To Richieq:  "Hard luck to this group of players who have done exceptionally well this year in winning a provincial title and reaching an All Ireland Final, Kerry sounded the stronger team which given their championship format is no surprise but it sounded that Meath never lay down and kept on battling which are all important attributes, hopefully their experiences of this year will stand them in good stead going forward."
Indeed, no disappointment in reaching a all ire final after winning Leinster well done to all concerned. Hard luck lads this experience will stand to you in the future. Thanks for the commitment from all concerned you did your county proud

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/08/2017 18:57:01    2029377

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Wouldn't agree with Ziggy ref Flanagan. He controlled mid field and caught great ball. But as usual, he must have been instructed to hold back from.going forward. Covered a lot of ground. Was Meaths best player IMO.

Alf1 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 05/08/2017 20:08:45    2029418

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Replying To Alf1:  "Wouldn't agree with Ziggy ref Flanagan. He controlled mid field and caught great ball. But as usual, he must have been instructed to hold back from.going forward. Covered a lot of ground. Was Meaths best player IMO."
really? don't want to have a go,but thought he was poor. had a good last 20mins or so,but the game was essentially finished by then.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/08/2017 20:24:24    2029426

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