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Replying To fredflint:  "Have to say, am I the only one that expected the Gaels to do better than that? They got trashed by a team in 2nd gear. This is a team full of current and former county players and the rest all having played at some grade underage with Cavan. Maybe it is a sad reflection on the state of football here now but I expected a better show than that if I'm honest."
Fredflint maybe you would copy and paste your post where you said that.
While your at it copy and paste your posts after the 3 Ulster club championship games the Gaels were involved in.
It's easy to post after a defeat.
Where you posts after they won!?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 27/11/2017 14:33:13    2063784

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "It's doubful if Cavan Gaels would have beaten any of the teams Slaughtneil played to reach the Ulster final. Kilcoo, Omagh and Kilcar were real tests.

Though it was good that a Cavan club at least reached the Final. Too long of a wait. Cavan Gaels have a league final next weekend, down for Sunday i see. Crosselough and killygarry on Friday."
they wouldn't of bet any of the 5 teams on the other side of the draw. Omagh, Scotstown, Kilcar, Kilcoo and Slaughtnei

gowna02 (Cavan) - Posts: 91 - 27/11/2017 14:42:27    2063788

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Replying To gowna02:  "they wouldn't of bet any of the 5 teams on the other side of the draw. Omagh, Scotstown, Kilcar, Kilcoo and Slaughtnei"
They weren't on the other side of the draw.
That's like saying Mayo would come out of Ulster.

The Gaels have had a great season considering the position they were in last year fighting relegation.

They knuckled down with the help of Jason , went unbeaten so far in Cavan although well beaten by the Ulster champions and potential all Ireland champions. There no shame in that.

Johnston and Lyng (until injured) had a great year. Not bad for 2 lads who 7 years ago were told by VA that they were finished.

Declan And Kevin Meehan and Nial Smith also played out of their skin this year.
Not bad for 3 lads that were told by TH they weren't good enough especially when worse was persevered with.

There at least 7/8 Gaels lads good enough for county panel IF interested.
Time will tell.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 27/11/2017 15:07:26    2063792

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Just flicking through all the threads to make sure that Terry Hyland is mentioned negatively...................ah, there it is. On to the next one.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 27/11/2017 15:24:39    2063794

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Fredflint maybe you would copy and paste your post where you said that.
While your at it copy and paste your posts after the 3 Ulster club championship games the Gaels were involved in.
It's easy to post after a defeat.
Where you posts after they won!?"
You misunderstand. I think Gaels underachieved and I would have thought they would have done better. I was optomistic they would put it up to Slaughtneil. Maybe the standard is not as good as I had hoped.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1250 - 27/11/2017 17:21:31    2063807

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "They weren't on the other side of the draw.
That's like saying Mayo would come out of Ulster.

The Gaels have had a great season considering the position they were in last year fighting relegation.

They knuckled down with the help of Jason , went unbeaten so far in Cavan although well beaten by the Ulster champions and potential all Ireland champions. There no shame in that.

Johnston and Lyng (until injured) had a great year. Not bad for 2 lads who 7 years ago were told by VA that they were finished.

Declan And Kevin Meehan and Nial Smith also played out of their skin this year.
Not bad for 3 lads that were told by TH they weren't good enough especially when worse was persevered with.

There at least 7/8 Gaels lads good enough for county panel IF interested.
Time will tell."
Did Terry Hyland stop the three boys playing last year too even though he wasn't the manager?

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1250 - 27/11/2017 19:04:29    2063824

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Did Terry not play Niall Smith and he got a bad injury? The other two were not playing as well as they are now. As for Val Lyng wasn't really part of his cull and injuries had taken their toll on him. Johnson wasn't dropped because of ability but because of attitude. Same with the other senior players he dropped. I'm not saying he was correct but that was his opinion.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 27/11/2017 21:03:31    2063838

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Replying To sammaguire1:  "wheres tom smith now"
Sammymaguire Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels

Well we had a bad day at the office against Slaughneil.
But sure we did not get the rub of the Green that the Derry got.
a few of the referees decisions which were marginal went against .
The heavy pitch did not suit us and the more physical Derry type of play did not suit the Cavan Gaels lightweight forwards who relay on high speed skill which requires a dry ball and good underfoot conditions.
While the above mentioned facts and by reason of the low standard of competition at senior level in Cavan the Gaels were ill prepared for a Ulster final at the end of November

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3215 - 27/11/2017 22:24:09    2063844

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Replying To tomsmith:  "inaroundthehouse.
Tomsmith here

Great to see you coming out in support of our County representatives in Ulster football.
It is correct to say that aheavy pitch will not suit the lovely Gaels footballers but hopefully we will pull through
Lets all get behing them this year"
Good lord!

Tom it's closed season now, get yourself off somewhere for a couple of weeks, have a couple of pina colada's by the pool and clear the head. I hear Lanzarote is nice at this time of year!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 28/11/2017 07:51:20    2063856

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "They weren't on the other side of the draw.
That's like saying Mayo would come out of Ulster.

The Gaels have had a great season considering the position they were in last year fighting relegation.

They knuckled down with the help of Jason , went unbeaten so far in Cavan although well beaten by the Ulster champions and potential all Ireland champions. There no shame in that.

Johnston and Lyng (until injured) had a great year. Not bad for 2 lads who 7 years ago were told by VA that they were finished.

Declan And Kevin Meehan and Nial Smith also played out of their skin this year.
Not bad for 3 lads that were told by TH they weren't good enough especially when worse was persevered with.

There at least 7/8 Gaels lads good enough for county panel IF interested.
Time will tell."
Inaroundthehouse: would say you that VA on his own told both people you named in your post that their inter county career was over. It just might be nice to get your facts right for a change. Would you name the 7 or 8 gaels players that are good enough for the county please. As I have not seen any games from any club since the 3rd of September I am curious to know who they are. Thank you in advance.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4496 - 28/11/2017 09:27:18    2063862

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Sammymaguire Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels

Well we had a bad day at the office against Slaughneil.
But sure we did not get the rub of the Green that the Derry got.
a few of the referees decisions which were marginal went against .
The heavy pitch did not suit us and the more physical Derry type of play did not suit the Cavan Gaels lightweight forwards who relay on high speed skill which requires a dry ball and good underfoot conditions.
While the above mentioned facts and by reason of the low standard of competition at senior level in Cavan the Gaels were ill prepared for a Ulster final at the end of November"
would the bad conditions underfoot not have taken more off a toll of the big physical lumps from derrry? Would the wet ball not have hindered the derry teams hoof it and catch it system? you say the gaels were ill prepared for the ulster final..which obviously points towards a bad attitude or bad management??

Are you calling for paddy gumley to be called into the cavan set up as he's currently excelling at a higher level than any player in cavan at the moment?

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1368 - 28/11/2017 09:39:36    2063863

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Hard luck to the Gaels, beaten by a much better team end of. But they tried to make a game of it when it would have been easier to drop the heads. They are a good team and well balanced but I don't think they have an outstanding player. Slaughtneil were excellent and their 3 players in particular Rogers, McKaigue and Bradley were a level above anything the Gaels have. Put those 3 players in the Gaels team and it would be a very different story. Thought POC was excellent in the middle of the field second half. I don't think any Gaels player really played badly, they were just up against a different class of team. They had no time on the ball- as soon as they got it they were put under serious pressure. It's been a good year for them. They now know where the bar is really at. Whether they can develop as a team and take it up a notch is the million dollar question. If they can and in turn other clubs in the county do likewise it would be very good for Cavan football.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 28/11/2017 13:58:10    2063897

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Inaroundthehouse: would say you that VA on his own told both people you named in your post that their inter county career was over. It just might be nice to get your facts right for a change. Would you name the 7 or 8 gaels players that are good enough for the county please. As I have not seen any games from any club since the 3rd of September I am curious to know who they are. Thank you in advance."
Paul o Connor
Nial Murray
Stephen Murray
Seanie Johnston
Kevin Meehan
Barry Fortune
Paul Graham
Maloney Derham.
Are all good enough to be on the panel given their displays all year through the championship

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 28/11/2017 15:24:07    2063904

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Paul Graham was asked in at the start of the year but didn't want to commit. Meehan and Maloney Derham solid players and worth another run. Though there is lots of half backs around the County panel.

Johnston looking to get into Club management next year. He has been mentioned for the Killinkere and Cornafean jobs.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 1871 - 28/11/2017 16:52:21    2063915

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Paul o Connor Nial Murray Stephen Murray Seanie Johnston Kevin Meehan Barry Fortune Paul Graham Maloney Derham. Are all good enough to be on the panel given their displays all year through the championship
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - 28/11/2017 15:24:07 2063

Paul O'Connor get's injured very easy but has been part of the panel despite him spending most of his time recovering. Robert Maloney Durham left the panel to look after his education future and from what I hear has been called to the Barr and is heading for England I alway's said he was an honest player so we agree with him. Niall Murray like Paul O'Connor suffers a lot with injury as does his brother can we afford to carry all these injured players. Not too sure which of the Meehans Kevin is one has discipline issues the other is a very nice tidy player you can depend on. Seanie one cannot question his ability as a player can they. You did not mention Flynn surprised at that for he is a far better goalie than Cassidy. I cannot really comment on others as I am recovering from a major operation and missed all games since the 3rd of September.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4496 - 28/11/2017 19:25:28    2063930

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Paul o Connor
Nial Murray
Stephen Murray
Seanie Johnston
Kevin Meehan
Barry Fortune
Paul Graham
Maloney Derham.
Are all good enough to be on the panel given their displays all year through the championship"
Hopefully Terry Hyland will let Mattie call them in this year.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1250 - 28/11/2017 21:52:18    2063937

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Replying To fredflint:  "Hopefully Terry Hyland will let Mattie call them in this year."
Paul O' Connor? ??Where you at the county final or the Ulster club final? Not near good enough for county football in my opinion. The ONLY Cavan Gaels player id have in there is Kevin Meehan. The rest of the names have been tried and tested.

mystic meg (Cavan) - Posts: 228 - 28/11/2017 22:07:41    2063941

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Replying To mystic meg:  "Paul O' Connor? ??Where you at the county final or the Ulster club final? Not near good enough for county football in my opinion. The ONLY Cavan Gaels player id have in there is Kevin Meehan. The rest of the names have been tried and tested."
Paul lay down after contact on Sunday and the game barely started. Doesn't have the strength for county football.

marita (None) - Posts: 464 - 28/11/2017 23:06:30    2063949

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Replying To marita:  "Paul lay down after contact on Sunday and the game barely started. Doesn't have the strength for county football."
Tomsmith here a proud Cavan gaels supporter

It is very easy to be critical of the Cavan gaels team after Sundays game.
You can say this and that but lets face iyt the Gaels were up against a great Derry championship team.
I could name about half a dozen Cavan senior teams which would have been kicked of the field ion Sunday. While defeated the Gaels team did us proud with a good display and as I a have said only for afew split decisions that went against us coupled with the underfoot conditions we could have stole the game.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3215 - 29/11/2017 09:05:12    2063960

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Replying To mystic meg:  "Paul O' Connor? ??Where you at the county final or the Ulster club final? Not near good enough for county football in my opinion. The ONLY Cavan Gaels player id have in there is Kevin Meehan. The rest of the names have been tried and tested."
How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in.
the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.

theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 156 - 29/11/2017 11:26:27    2063973

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