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Standard of club football in Carlow

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First time posting so go easy.

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the standard of club football in the county

milford (Carlow) - Posts: 28 - 30/10/2012 15:22:40    1290150


Hurling is the number one sport in the county.

Jack L (None) - Posts: 2772 - 30/10/2012 15:57:52    1290181


That's nothing to do with what milford posted Jack L...

YI4LIFE (Carlow) - Posts: 85 - 30/10/2012 16:59:13    1290227


it's poor enough, and not helped by the way the championships are structured

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1283 - 30/10/2012 21:28:13    1290432


Its never been better.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2696 - 31/10/2012 19:30:22    1290842


Cant be that bad. Attracted two very high profile managers. First Luke Dempsey and now Anthony Rainbow. Not a lot of counties could afford an outside man. They are forced to recruit from within.

Jack L (None) - Posts: 2772 - 01/11/2012 11:30:01    1291018


Jack L you are a gas man.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2696 - 01/11/2012 11:40:43    1291025


Some proper WUMs attracted to this thread! Also one or two posters who should stay away as they should be involved in fixing the problem, this particular question is putting bread on some lads tables.
Stay on the point, the standard of club football in Carlow is poor. Thats obvious, when one club dominates the way Eire Og has this year tells us two things.
EO are better than the rest of the county.
The fact they then lsot to the Wicklow champions tells us that they arent (and by extension the rest of us) very hot at all. Sure they threw away the game to a certain extent having grabbed it and yes the behaviour of both teams was poor. But that sort of BS is not exclusive to clubs in CW or WW thats rampant throughout the GAA.

bouncingball (Carlow) - Posts: 124 - 01/11/2012 12:09:42    1291056


the gap between the top clubs (eire og, rathvilly, old leighlin, ect) and the bottom clubs (st andrews, naomh eoin, ect) at senior level is huge.. i dont think there is a problem with struture of our championships.. its just up to the other clubs to catch up..

culchie86 (Carlow) - Posts: 34 - 01/11/2012 16:46:29    1291280


agree with culchie. we have 14 senior clubs in the county but realisticly only seven of them are of senior standard. the other eight are intermediate standard and should be playing in the intermediate championship. with the utmost of respect to the fighting cocks the fact that they won the intermediate championship this year just shows how bad the championship was. st andrews came up last year and the blues and eire og gave them woeful beatings. the games were of no benefit to eire og or the blues and definetly no benefit to st andrews. fighting cocks will be playin senior next year and will get bet out de gate in every game de same way st andrews did this year. if we had st andrews,de cocks,st patricks,kilbride,clonmore , ballon , ballinabrannagh,myshall,leighlinbridge,grange,asca,eire og second string and fennagh then you would have a serious intermediate football championship. it would take a serious effort to win it so when they would go up senior they would be ready for de challenge. i would leave eire og, rathvilly, old leighlin, mlr , palatine , the blues and tinryland as senior clubs because its just a time wasting excercise every time these teams play sub standard opposition in de senior championship. its of no benefit to de stronger teams and definetly no benefit to de weaker teams. st andrews conceded 10 goals and 34 points in there first two games of this years championship . the gap is just too big. nuff said!

mamamia (Carlow) - Posts: 25 - 01/11/2012 21:21:03    1291438


Club football used to be strong with Eire Og dominating leinster in the 90s.

Jack L (None) - Posts: 2772 - 02/11/2012 12:40:27    1291580



Couldnt have said it better myself..something needs to be done!

carlowstar (Carlow) - Posts: 234 - 02/11/2012 17:45:44    1291780


The cocks result confirms it.. The answer is .......
A. The standard is very low in Carlow club football
B. the championships are poorly structured and we need to half our senior clubs
C. There is no development or improvement of club football in Carlow.
D. All of the above and maybe more

bouncingball (Carlow) - Posts: 124 - 04/11/2012 16:29:12    1292398


What do ye think of new championship proposals, seems like a lot of thought went into it, 2013 described as transition is complicated but it gives every team the chance to win the championship they competed in in 2012 and at the same time sorts out the status for all teams for 2014. 3 x 8 senior, intermediate and junior, rather than the current 2 x 12 senior and intermediate. Ambitious, 4 potentail senior teams will be intermediate and 8 potential intermediate teams will be junior A for 2014, but worth a try.

Seany00 (Carlow) - Posts: 27 - 04/11/2012 19:35:39    1292549


Sounds like a great idea. It would make each division much fairer and interesting. Also it would give intermediate(especially) and junior winners a far better chance in leinster club championship which i feel is important after the hammering both got this year.
Theres no doubting it was a poor championship this year so anything that can be done to help should be.

Id also like to see us enter the leinster junior championship (county not club). It would give fringe players on the panel a chance to prove themselves and also lads close to the panel but not quite there. I thought Anthony may have brought this in this year given how well it worked in kildare.

moltoir (Carlow) - Posts: 12 - 05/11/2012 17:25:31    1293020


The new structure will make the championship more competitive and could yield results for the county team in 2014. What targets have been outlined for Anthony for 2013.

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 158 - 05/11/2012 18:42:34    1293073


i cant see how all clubs will go for a new structure especially if it effects them directly, what will MLR think, being senior for so long and also competitive then county board decide to relegate them, it is fair enough that big defeats were happening but teams need to find their footing in different grades and that does not happen in 1 year, even going down through it all, do you think its rite for Clonmore to become a Junior club after winning Div 2 league and only missing out on knock out stages of intermediate because of head to head, i agree things need to change but doing it at the end of a season based on that seasons results isnt rite either. clubs should be givin a years notice as to what way the championships structure should be if there is to b a major change.

i know people here form the bigger clubs will tell me i'm wrong about it but changing the structure like this could ruin football in carlow at a lower level. look at the cocks, they finished fifth in their group 2011, won their group 2012 and went on to win the intermediate. if the restructure had to have happened in 2012 they would have been playing Junior. How can you justified them goin down to junior if they were obviuosly good enough to win the intermediate title

more4me (Carlow) - Posts: 95 - 06/11/2012 09:40:27    1293243


i cant see what changing the championship is going to do to improve the standard of football and hurling for that matter. the standard in both is shocking and we need to start in the schools to improve it

bagman (Carlow) - Posts: 56 - 06/11/2012 11:05:36    1293280


I think the new structure is fantastic and I congratulate the county board on copying my idea ;-)

TAFKANO1FAN (Carlow) - Posts: 588 - 06/11/2012 11:34:05    1293294


you should come up with a plan for ohanrahans now might win something

bagman (Carlow) - Posts: 56 - 06/11/2012 11:57:14    1293300