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So county board makes up a new league, so all county players are available to club! Yet butlersbridge could not have Flanagan because he had training at the same time as the game with the reds!!

Calling of all games even tho no under 21s where involved in either club!!

Next week sees teams playing on Wednesday nite, bank holiday Monday and the Wednesday nite again, 3 games in a week and all important promotion games!

County board doesnt give a rats about clubs or club players in this county!!

At least half the players in any club work/study out of the county and are expected to put work and family 2nd for football/hurling, while the GAA continues to take everything it can from all it's members who have build it from to ground up just for it to be turned into a franchise concerned with branding and making the rich richer!!!

topper (Cavan) - Posts: 53 - 24/04/2014 17:26:45    1579584

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Have to agree with you there. Ok play breffini league games on a wednesday night but not promotion games . A game on at 7:30 on a wednesday , players have to be there at 6 :30 leaving work early .Some wont make it at all. Then cancel a full round without asking clubs and putting it on a wednesday night . Are we trying to ruin clubs . No gates on a Wednesday night so clubs are being penalised on the double. People cant get to games.Co board must be trying to cut the numbers playing? No consideration for over 600 players. Then for good measure throw a game in on a bank holiday monday at 1 JOKE.

kinglarry (Cavan) - Posts: 189 - 24/04/2014 18:52:00    1579631

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Having games midweek during college exam times is just madness. From speaking to 2 other clubs, one club will be missing 6 players from their starting 15 plus one who works in the UK while another club will be missing 5 players plus 2 who also work in the UK. Whoever decides the fixture lists in Cavan...well, need I say any more!!! Common sense please!!!

mardon (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 27/04/2014 09:10:50    1580550

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Have to agree the county board has to wake up. There soon be a time when all clubs will have is the bear 15 to play. Very few teams able to field second teams any more. Lads won't stick around to sit on senior benches when getting no football. Gaa giving games to sky to promote games around the world they want to start at home.

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 27/04/2014 19:30:58    1580892

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Agree with everything said on here, can't believe all the fuss that has been made in Donegal, seems to be five time worse here. Clubs wanted the other league format, county board got their way with 9 competitive league games and still cant fit them into a fixture list on weekends. I think it's time clubs and club players took a stand against the way they are treated by the county board.

therock (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 28/04/2014 11:31:52    1581242

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Wat happens if a club can't field or refuses to play mid week games ???

topper (Cavan) - Posts: 53 - 29/04/2014 17:30:07    1582162

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Its Wednesday evening and I just paid in 8eu to watch Drumgoon v Lacken. Players (especially students) rushed home from all parts of the country to play and what happens...Ref dosnt turn up. Apparently when phoned he was about to do another match. I spoke to young lads who drove from Dublin , Wexford ,Sligo ,Galway and Belfast , most of whom are in the middle of exams only to find the ref was double booked by the fixtures committee. It costs these lads over 40 or 50 euro in petrol alone and as students thats a huge amount of money that they cant afford. Disgraceful! I will say no more!

mardon (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 30/04/2014 20:10:41    1582690

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its disgraceful these lads should be given the money they are out as it was not their fault . the whole thing is a farce

cavan.wanderer (Cavan) - Posts: 82 - 30/04/2014 21:12:26    1582736

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yea i agree with you mardon, mid week fixtures is bad enough in the current climate with guys working away and teams struggling to field teams, but to have guys traveling distances only to arrive to find out no referee, is a disgraces.

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 30/04/2014 21:58:28    1582773

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30/04/2014 20:10:41
mardon
County: Cavan
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Did ya get your 8e back?

EatMyFish (Cavan) - Posts: 205 - 01/05/2014 09:59:59    1582809

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Players from all clubs complaining about midweek fixtures and rightly so. People expected to travel from sligo dublin galway etc. to play matches either having to get off work early or taking out about 6-8 hours in the middle of college exam period. The CB got their way with 9 promotion games in the league and cant fit them in at weekends, having to use wednesday nights and bank holiday mondays. Club players make up around 95% of players in the county and are treated like **** by the CB, and its fairly obvious that it is down to demands from county team management, maybe next year we shouldn't bother with an ACFL at all in Cavan, it's seems to be more hassle than it's worth from everyones perspective. Don't be surprised to see numbers dwindling even further in the coming years as players question more and more why they even bother.

therock (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 01/05/2014 12:15:31    1582889

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I gave it up this year because I'm living outside the county. Glad I did now. When you are on the outside looking in you realise how stupid the fixture situation is i.e. Junior players being held up for months without a game, meaningless Breifne League games and then important games midweek during exam time and on a Bank Holiday Monday. For me personally, the way it is set up now doesn't make it possible to play when you live outside Cavan.

MoodyBlue (Cavan) - Posts: 1 - 01/05/2014 14:06:22    1582965

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To all the lads who did come home yesterday from around the country.. hat tip to all of you!

joeybartonIII (Cavan) - Posts: 26 - 01/05/2014 14:59:21    1582998

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Club football in Cavan is on its knees and in my opinion the County Board dont seem to care. They went against the wishes of the clubs for the current format and its a disaster.
Player welfare is not taken into consideration. As many have pointed out, the promotion games should be played at weekends as lads have to travel hours to play a mid week game, and hours back again, plus having to get off work early. Also lads in college are in the middle of exam period and have to give up their valuable time just because the county board cant get its ass in gear.
Also smaller clubs rely on their minors so this week the younger lads played tuesday and wednesday plus junior b games plus minor and senior training.
Next week they will play monday and tuesday plus train. The county board play lip service to player weflare, and its only lip service.
Its time the club chairmen/women grew a pair and take on the county board. After all over 95% of the players in the county are club players. The ones who keep the game alive in the parishes around the county, the ones making the difference to every aspect of community life the ones who derserve a clap on the back, not a kick in the **** !!!

StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 01/05/2014 16:27:50    1583065

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Solutions anyone?

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 01/05/2014 17:53:13    1583112

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01/05/2014 17:53:13
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Solutions anyone?

Go on strike until the CB starts listening to what club players want

EatMyFish (Cavan) - Posts: 205 - 01/05/2014 18:13:46    1583118

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I dont want to sound like an old man but in my day , a game was fixed for every Sunday at 2 pm (from mid Feb) hail ,rain or snow and if you had a county player you did without him. You were given dates in December and the games went ahead every Sunday and if you couldnt play any Sunday you gave a walk over. No game was ever postponed for weddings , funerals etc with the only exception being bad weather. League was always over well before the Championship started. In fact , county players were known to play a soccer match on a Saturday and play for their county on the Sunday. Mollycoddling county players and keeping them in cotton wool is not the solution to making better players. I am sure the county subs who warm the bench are sick of , well, warming the bench hoping that they get 5 minutes gametime. They probably havnt played 60 minute football since February. I really feel sorry for the Junior B players who account for 50% of the players in Cavan. They have been training since January and have played only 1 or 2 game in the League so far. Not good enough! Solution and rant over!!

mardon (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 01/05/2014 20:09:34    1583152

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mardon,
what constituted the bad weather that caused games to be called off in your day if hail, rain and snow didn't cause a postponement?

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1680 - 01/05/2014 20:54:26    1583178

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Mardon,

Thats a fairly obtuse and primitive view. The game has moved on. The game is much more physically demanding. Training loads have increased. (even at club level) It would be unsustainable to maintain a schedule every week where a county player plays a soccer game the day before a senior county game!
I'm Told that recovery is more important than training these days so teams rarely train two days in a row due to increased volumes of groin issues and general burn out symptoms.

galoping gazele (None) - Posts: 174 - 02/05/2014 13:32:13    1583377

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Well why not call an extraordinary general meeting and get all the clubs singing from the same hymn sheet. I am sure every club in the county knows the fixture committee and try and work together to find a common understanding of the situation that the clubs are having difficulty both with fixtures and financially. There is no point in it being posted here for many don't even read this forum. Get your club executives to organise a EGM and speak with those that are responsible for what is happening. I understand the difficulty traveling from University to get things organised so the players are no different.
So in a nut shell contact all the clubs who can call a meeting and see if all of them are willing to unite in one common direction and get it sorted. I am sure the leagues that are running now must have been voted on by the all the clubs is this not the case ?????

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 02/05/2014 14:45:25    1583431

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