SamOnErrigal

Hey listen Donegal might meet Dublin at some stage in this year's championship and they might even beat Dublin IF they do meet, who knows, it's all hypothetical talk because all we know for sure is that Meath is playing Dublin next, nothing else really interests us until after the Leinster final.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 09/07/2014 16:58:32    1616481

Hey listen Donegal might meet Dublin at some stage in this year's championship and they might even beat Dublin IF they do meet, who knows, it's all hypothetical talk because all we know for sure is that Meath is playing Dublin next, nothing else really interests us until after the Leinster final.

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Exactly man.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13655 - 09/07/2014 17:29:08    1616496

Htaem////Waynol

Listen men pass that message on to Royaldunn and tell him not to be on about Donegal /Dublin game.

By the way He must have the gift of foresight as he says Dublin will hammer Donegal.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 09/07/2014 19:32:49    1616541

Posters were not even thinking of Donegal all were concentrating on is The All Ireland Final sorry sorry I mean The Leinster Final.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 09/07/2014 21:16:45    1616581

If posters have a look at pages 4/5/6 just as a example, this thread has long since descended into a talk about Donegal v Dublin. To then accuse me of the one who brings it up ???
The simple reality is that every thread on hs at the moment will always have a few of the boys from the hills going on about how they can beat dubs etc. And while league and championship are 2 completely different things. Meath drew (and were unlucky to do so) with the mighty Donegal in Donegal just a few months ago. So what I'm saying is if all these Donegal posters say we have no hope of getting within 10 points of dubs then how can they be SO confident of beating the same team?
Meath have it all to do as any team haa. Thats the fact of the matter

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2014 08:39:22    1616618

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 8019

1615739
muckrooss

are you not sick of using the fact croke park is in dublin as an excuse for us playing good football
come on like nobody whinges about monaghan playing nearly every game in clones
or tipp playing the bulk of there matches in thurles in hurling

Touchy or what!!
I'm only making the point that playing in Croke Park makes an already difficult task harder for Meath. It's not a "whinge", I have no problem in going to Clones, Croke Park or the moon if that's what it takes.
And for your information, yes, the same point has been made about Clones where Monaghan are unbeaten in 17 games. A coincidence? I think not.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/07/2014 08:44:43    1616621

I agree with Muckrosshead

I have often said it is unfair that Monaghan play most of their Ulster games at home.It is a bigger advantage to Dublin though,as they can get bigger crowds in.When they switched their Parnell Park league games to Croker,that has given them an even bigger advantage.Players get blooded there before the champ etc.On the otherhand,this will be Meaths 3rd Leinster final in a row,and against Dublin,so many of our players are well used to it by now and know what to expect,so maybe only 1 or 2 players will be experiencing it for the first time.Even if Meath lose,the game will benefit them in the long run..
Back to the game.. I keep hearing people saying "Meath need to score 3 or 4 goals to win" etc etc,but you have to be careful not to get bogged down in that.If you can create goal chances,then by all means go for them.But if you concentrate too much on it,as in in going for goals,when they are half chances at best etc,well,you could miss a lot of opportunities for points.Who is to say Dublin will score more than 2 goals,or IF Meath were to win,that one goal may be enough etc?

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 10/07/2014 10:02:02    1616651

If Dublin or Meath fans don't want posters from other counties passing comment on this thread then perhaps it would be better if it was either of those county forums.

Very tetchy altogether

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 10/07/2014 10:08:20    1616654

royaldunne

Good sensible post royaldunne, in anycase if Dublin v Donegal does happen further down the line then I'll look forward to it, would be a very interesting match but they're not playing yet, Donegal have a very tough game against Monaghan coming up, that should be their only concern for now.

Anyway where's a thread from last year regarding Dublin v Donegal, that's the place to be holding talk about this so far hypothetical match.

http://hoganstand.com/forum/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=0&TopicID=83632

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/07/2014 10:58:12    1616690

Batterburger no one is complaining about others posting. Once it's relevant and backed up by some kind of sense of knowledge. Anyone who knows anything about this pairing knows its not going to be a 10/20 point win for Dublin. The highest win for dubs was 95 10 points and us in the 5 past cluxton game in 10. We have met last 2 finals a 3 point defeat and 6 point , funnily enough last year's was probably more competitive than previous one. However Meath have improved since last year and no doubt Dublin have too. But I still see it as a close enough game if dubs are to win it will be by a small enough margin of say 3/4 points. If Meath are to win it'll be by 1/2 yes it will be I expect a high scoring game.
Who comes out on top? Heart would say Meath by 1 head says dubs by 3. Meath will play with heart, its well known we don't fear playing Dublin and nerves will not come into it. Furthermore I would play Dublin in no other venue than Croke park even if we could play them in navan. Don't buy into the whole advantage thing as much as others, often seen the occasion get to Dublin teams as much as helped them in the past.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2014 11:01:29    1616694

Htaem excellent point. Everyone should concentrate on the knowns. Donegal v monaghan. Meath v Dublin anything else is idle speculation and based on a number of things happening which may or may not happen.
Dublin play Meath nothing else matters one bit too me.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2014 11:09:53    1616703

royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 6033

1616694 Batterburger no one is complaining about others posting. Once it's relevant and backed up by some kind of sense of knowledge. Anyone who knows anything about this pairing knows its not going to be a 10/20 point win for Dublin. The highest win for dubs was 95 10 points and us in the 5 past cluxton game in 10. We have met last 2 finals a 3 point defeat and 6 point , funnily enough last year's was probably more competitive than previous one. However Meath have improved since last year and no doubt Dublin have too. But I still see it as a close enough game if dubs are to win it will be by a small enough margin of say 3/4 points. If Meath are to win it'll be by 1/2 yes it will be I expect a high scoring game.
Who comes out on top? Heart would say Meath by 1 head says dubs by 3. Meath will play with heart, its well known we don't fear playing Dublin and nerves will not come into it. Furthermore I would play Dublin in no other venue than Croke park even if we could play them in navan. Don't buy into the whole advantage thing as much as others, often seen the occasion get to Dublin teams as much as helped them in the past.


No one is complaining?? Really? I was told I had a chip on my shoulder for suggesting that some in Meath were talking up their team and some in Dublin were talking down theirs.

I happen to think Dublin are streets ahead of meath therefore will win by 6+ pulling up. Pace, experience and the better footballers will see to that.

Others entitled to their opinions. I'll not suggest they have a 'chip' for that.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 10/07/2014 12:43:32    1616762

batterburger

No one is complaining?? Really? I was told I had a chip on my shoulder for suggesting that some in Meath were talking up their team and some in Dublin were talking down theirs.

I happen to think Dublin are streets ahead of meath therefore will win by 6+ pulling up. Pace, experience and the better footballers will see to that.

Others entitled to their opinions. I'll not suggest they have a 'chip' for that.

You're right Dublin are a better team than Meath, they're a better team than every county in the country for that matter and all genuine opinions are welcome.

Ps, this 'chip on your shoulder remark' by hill seems to have really offended you, I'd suggest just brushing it off.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/07/2014 13:03:13    1616779

Butterburger
You tell em boy

RD
The first man to bring Donegal into this tread was Highkings, a Meath supporter. His opinion was that he doubted Meath being able to set up defensively against Dublin and I agree with his opinionTo prefect that defensive system you have to be playing it at all times So High kings expresses the view that Donegal /Monaghan would be better equipped to play Dublin with a blanket defence.

Now once you bring in another county/counties into any thread you open up different views/opinions and even arguments
Anyway it's only in the last 30 years that this Dublin/Meath thing got serious... When Dublin were going well in the 70's there was no word of Meath much. Kerry v Cork /Galway vMayo are really ancient comparing to Meath vDublin

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 10/07/2014 13:07:31    1616781

I happen to think Dublin are streets ahead of meath therefore will win by 6+ pulling up. Pace, experience and the better footballers will see to that.

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Here here, I think it'll be similar to last year too, Winning without having to play out of our skin to do so.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13655 - 10/07/2014 13:16:58    1616790

MuckrossHead
County: Donegal
Posts: 2797

Touchy or what!!
I'm only making the point that playing in Croke Park makes an already difficult task harder for Meath. It's not a "whinge", I have no problem in going to Clones, Croke Park or the moon if that's what it takes.
And for your information, yes, the same point has been made about Clones where Monaghan are unbeaten in 17 games. A coincidence? I think not.


in fairness to Dublin, ive never agreed with the argument of it not being fair for Dublin to play at home all the time, in this case its not just dublins home pitch its croke park, every team with hopes of doing well wants to be playing in croke park in the latter stages of summer and if it so happens that your team is playing Dublin in croke park what about it, it only makes it the more sweeter when you beat Dublin on their home soil. im sure if you were to ask the meath players if they mind playing Dublin in croke park for the leinster final not one would have a problem with playing here and im sure they don't see it as a disadvantage.

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 10/07/2014 14:59:24    1616871

Anyway it's only in the last 30 years that this Dublin/Meath thing got serious... When Dublin were going well in the 70's there was no word of Meath much. Kerry v Cork /Galway vMayo are really ancient comparing to Meath vDublin

Obviously you don't know your stuff, we beat Dublin in the '75 League Final and were their biggest threat in Leinster, could have had a few more Leinster's to add to our 1970 win but Dublin were just a step ahead of us, Jimmy Keavney commented on how games with Meath helped make that team as they were a constant threat to them and hard battles and they needed such games before coming up against Kerry, the rivalry was there as it was in the 50's and 60's. Anyway it's only the last 40 years that Donegal football got serious so don't be harping on here about other rivalries.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3750 - 10/07/2014 15:07:19    1616875

I can remember a couple of hairy Leinster finals against ye during the 70s too, there wasn't much in it then either!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8808 - 10/07/2014 15:24:45    1616883

I see Kevin Reilly is a major doubt with that knee injury he picked up against Kildare , if he doesn't play we will hammer Meath.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/07/2014 15:26:57    1616885

Anyway it's only in the last 30 years that this Dublin/Meath thing got serious... When Dublin were going well in the 70's there was no word of Meath much. Kerry v Cork /Galway vMayo are really ancient comparing to Meath vDublin

Obviously you don't know your stuff, we beat Dublin in the '75 League Final and were their biggest threat in Leinster, could have had a few more Leinster's to add to our 1970 win but Dublin were just a step ahead of us, Jimmy Keavney commented on how games with Meath helped make that team as they were a constant threat to them and hard battles and they needed such games before coming up against Kerry, the rivalry was there as it was in the 50's and 60's. Anyway it's only the last 40 years that Donegal football got serious so don't be harping on here about other rivalries.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3750 - 10/07/2014 15:28:55    1616887