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Replying To beano:  "Apropos to nothing really only that I wanted to distract myself from the gloom, but since we have started to regress after 2019 (specfically since the re-issuing of the Wexford GAA bible) both Chin and Mac have moved into our top four championship scorers of all-time standings. In fact Chin (5-212) is now only 43 points behind the GOAT and is our record point-scorer, while Mac (19-115) is just ten behind Tony (42-56). Its mad that it's argued (with justification) that we don't get the best out of either of them, and that seemingly dropping Mac was the answer to all our problems.

Don't know if anyone else finds it interesting, but I do!"
We don't get the best out of them, but surely they are the men who need to get the best out of themselves. Neither were bursting around the pitch the last day.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:28:46    2480785

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "To quote Isaac Marion, "We are where we are, however we got here. What matters is where we go next".

Its way past bed time here but insomnia is kicked in.

The time for recrimination and blaming can start after Sunday. We can spend the whole Summer/autumn/winter reviewing whatever we want, where we want to go but first and foremost we need to get the result on Sunday and preserve our status.

Sunday is the most important game in Wexford hurling in years, results go against us and it could be a tough road back regardless of underage teams, etc having good showings.

Do not underestimate how vital it is to win this game.

I would like to think what has gone on with absent players, etc could be sorted this week. We need a penalty taker and had a good one up to this year. This could be the winning and losing of our Liam McCarthy cup status.

What everybody needs to do now is buckle down for 5 days and GET BEHIND THIS TEAM.

EVERY WEXFORD MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH WEXFORD HURLINGS INTEREST AT HEART NEEDS TO GET THEIR A**E TO WEXFORD PARK ON SUNDAY AND DO THEIR BIT TO HELP GET THIS TEAM OVER THE LINE.

THE 1798 REBELLION BEGAN THIS WEEK AND OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OVER A MONTH. WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX.

SUPPORTERS CAN AND NEED TO BE THE 16TH MAN AND ON SUNDAY THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN.

WE BROUGHT 50K WEXFORD PEOPLE IN 2019, WE CAN SURELY FILL THE PARK ON SUNDAY.

I can't be there but will be shouting the on from afar. If people don't go, well no point blaming the county board if you can't say on Sunday evening "I did my bit".

FORGET THE BLAMING, FINGER POINTING UNTIL NEXT WEEK, THE TEAM NEED WEXFORD PEOPLES SUPPORT NOW LIKE THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. GO OUT AND DO YOUR BIT.

UP WEXFORD. "
"THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN."

Wexford might not be playing Galway, Kilkenny and Carlow next year."
Haven't been up to Ballycran in around 20 years so it would be good to show the kids if we end up playing there! Are you coming over to the Park CC?"]No, I won't be in the Park this Sunday. Living, as I do in London, I rarely get to see an inter county game in the flesh.
That said. While I wouldn't like to see Wexford relegated, I want and expect Kilkenny to go all-out to win.
Reading all the comments on here, I get the feeling there could be changes afoot for Wexford hurling. So maybe a season in the Joe McDonagh might not be so bad. With a new manager and probably several new (young) players, it would give them a chance to find their way. I would expect them to at least make the JM final, if not win it. This would give the added bonus of qualifying for the All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Finals, and testing themselves against either the third placed Munster or Leinster finishers."]I was actually thinking about everything you just posted last night CC

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:29:45    2480788

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Replying To Timbertony:  "The McGraths in Tipp regularly play county senior finals in football. Cratloe in Clare were pushing hard in both sports up to recent times. I think it's a watery enough excuse, especially with the split club season. Likes of Lee Chin only togging for football relegation finals and interest levels with a lot of them playing club football would be weak enough. A handful of games after the hurling is over for most of them.

I think the record of club teams in All Ireland club competitions is another red herring. For one, Ballyhale have been the strongest club team in a generation so beating them is unlikely. Also with the club championship finishing early, no wonder the likes of Ferns have struggled. But that's no reason to revert back to the nonsense format. Senior club hurling is very competitive in its current format, that's what you want. Club players have certainty in the calendar too so standards will improve. Lots of recent winners and every team has to fight to stay up When likes of Oulart and Rathnure were winning Leinsters the county team was still terrible!"
I think our club championships are great tbh. The way this summer has gone I can't wait til they start.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:30:49    2480789

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "I really think you're over emphasizing that point a lot, it's a small reason and a handy excuse. I don't see Cork blaming the Cahallanes, Alan Cadogan, Luke Meade, those former cork u20s who have all ireland football titles or Galway blaming Daithi Burke or Clare blaming Aidan McCarthy, Cathal Malone, Conor Cleary etc (just names off the top of my head) for having football has a negative, all those lads either have senior all Ireland's, minor all irrlands, u20 all irelands, club all Ireland's, senior county titles etc at football and it hasn't been used as an excuse, they were operating in high quality teams than any wexford football team at club or county so I don't buy that for a minute. In fact most of them have brought great attributes from one to the other, all great tacklers and physical...something all lads don't seem to have picked up from all the time they've spent playing football. Dublin hurlers have lost most of their best talents to football in a similar way our footballers have lost to the hurlers but ya don't see either blame the other for any skill deficiency, theyll blame the other for stealing their best player but not saying theyd be better if they didnt have the other growing up. Cork could be loosing some of their best prospects at hurling and football to rugby, playing 3 sports at such a high level hasnt effected them either
It's a tiny tiny reason. You might look into Kilkenny as your reason for saying that and they're an exception to the case and tbh it's blight against them, although going by our split season at club they way they run off thir football is nearly equal to length we run off ours at. It's the last I'll say of it. It's a handy excuse especially when one is given twice as much time and attention in this county and given way more attention and way way more people in this county care about it. Going around to clubs in this county you'd be hard pressed to find a young boy or girl who could name more than 2 or 3 county footballers"
It's not the only reason by any stretch. But it is a reason. The examples you give from other counties are the exceptions that prove the rule. And there are plenty of lads around where I live who couldn't care less about hurling, including a few posters on this.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 10:45:33    2480804

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "I really think you're over emphasizing that point a lot, it's a small reason and a handy excuse. I don't see Cork blaming the Cahallanes, Alan Cadogan, Luke Meade, those former cork u20s who have all ireland football titles or Galway blaming Daithi Burke or Clare blaming Aidan McCarthy, Cathal Malone, Conor Cleary etc (just names off the top of my head) for having football has a negative, all those lads either have senior all Ireland's, minor all irrlands, u20 all irelands, club all Ireland's, senior county titles etc at football and it hasn't been used as an excuse, they were operating in high quality teams than any wexford football team at club or county so I don't buy that for a minute. In fact most of them have brought great attributes from one to the other, all great tacklers and physical...something all lads don't seem to have picked up from all the time they've spent playing football. Dublin hurlers have lost most of their best talents to football in a similar way our footballers have lost to the hurlers but ya don't see either blame the other for any skill deficiency, theyll blame the other for stealing their best player but not saying theyd be better if they didnt have the other growing up. Cork could be loosing some of their best prospects at hurling and football to rugby, playing 3 sports at such a high level hasnt effected them either
It's a tiny tiny reason. You might look into Kilkenny as your reason for saying that and they're an exception to the case and tbh it's blight against them, although going by our split season at club they way they run off thir football is nearly equal to length we run off ours at. It's the last I'll say of it. It's a handy excuse especially when one is given twice as much time and attention in this county and given way more attention and way way more people in this county care about it. Going around to clubs in this county you'd be hard pressed to find a young boy or girl who could name more than 2 or 3 county footballers"
100%, you're spot on, however as sure as night follows day the hurlers struggle and boom it's the "dual football players that's the problem" it's so predictable at this stage.

Damien Reck is arguably our best defender for the past few years, he spent 1 week, 1 week training with his club before he played club championship in 2022 and 4 weeks later he was finished! His team mates gained nothing from having him back with them, he gained nothing.

We as a county need to decide what road we are going down, what's best for just us and our clubs or what works overall to get the best players from the clubs playing county! Look at Wicklow next door to us, perennial underachieving because club trumps county in terms of importance,are we heading down the same route?

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 23/05/2023 10:52:09    2480806

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Following Wexford for 50 years, Sunday was a new low and it could get a lot lower this weekend. Whatever the result next Sunday, this Leinster series needs to be the line in the sand moment. For now, everyone needs to show their support.

FearBeag (Mayo) - Posts: 74 - 23/05/2023 11:00:41    2480810

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Replying To Formertownie:  "If we go down which looks more likely the longer the week goes on after our defeat to westmeath.
Very hard to see how we can lift it enough to beat r draw with an improving Killkenny. Who will I m sure be giving everything on the day even if resting players their fringe will surely relish a chance to impress for the big games coming for them would we hold back if we had a chance to relegate them .
Cant see westmeath getting a result v Antrim which means we have to get a result
Our confidence is as low as could be I really hope I m wrong and maybe over the years of defeat and especially watching the effort on the field in recent times I have become disillusioned.
When u play regardless of who is manager coach chairman you try your hardest on that field . Why else would you be there.
We are now in the fight of our lives we ll see what fight is in our players .
Regards replacing the manager the week of our biggest game ever what will that do .
I'm sure the players will be talking to him especially the more established ones and they will dictate who should be on the team and where .
Let Mr Martin sit I the stand and be chairman as he is no leader and most certainly keep him out of the dressing room as any speech to inspire will not .
Petty squabbles on the radio btween 2 people who know very little about the game does nt interest me .
He comes across as someone who holds little respect even less over last couple weeks .
If we fight I will continue to always support them regardless of result but if they throw the towel in they will lose my respect forever not wexford this team or certain players at least 7 o 8 have given everything over their careers and I m sure will continue to.
the rest need to realise just getting the wexford jersey does not entitle them to be heroes and adulated. That right needs to be earned like many a wexford hero before them .
If we go down let's hope its a new beginning with fresh ideas and a willingness to put in the hard work and decisions . Who s fault it wil be .
The management the county board the players the coaching staff the clubs their managers their coaches the academies ultimately it will come down to me and you as we are the grass roots and the game will only be as good in the county as we make it .
I look back now and I ask myself could I have done more answer probably yes . From coaching to player development yes I could did I ever think this day would come no I did nt . But yet hear we are .
Come Sunday evening no matter what the result the rebuilding should begin in earnest for ALL OF US .
For now let's just support them all and get to park . Can't be just for the good days it has to be every day ."
Your last two lines sum it all up. It is on everyone to lift Wexford hurling. Ironically in recent years the small football minority have shouted loudest and probably got more. The point made about the Wexford underage season being from April to September to fit in two codes is important and apparently it is clubs who resist change as they are afraid players will be playing other sports.

I read an article in the Irish Times this morning which is worth reading. You can change the chairman, manager and anyone else but will it make a fundamental change. The view I have heard from people who know is that our current leadership is a massive step up from a ten years ago. It is also probably true to say that what we sowed ten years ago is being reaped today with the lack of talent between 20 and 24.

Anyway we need 10,000 and more there this weekend screaming for every ball.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 121 - 23/05/2023 11:03:12    2480811

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Club football is the reason we are in this position .
Are ye mental no hurler has kicked a ball for club since their respective teams went out of the championship most 6 mths ago solely concentrating on hurling since . Bar fethard lads who had a great run .
With the new structured championship clubs don't get access to players until the season ends . Maybe its too much hurling and they ve become stale and too familiar no respite whatsoever from the constant pressure to perform every day they go out to play plus the responsibility thrown on their shoulders is it too much I would nt like to be and hrecwe are including myself having our tuppence worth .
Is it football fault no its not .
Is the pleasure and fun aspect of playing intr county hurling going the wrong way yes it is .
The negatives seem to be starting to outweigh the positives of playing at present again its just an opinion . Would you like you son to be under this pressure in a time like it is . College work marriage family cost of living crisis. Add in the pressure of these plus the commitment to play intrcounty its no wonder lads are nt performing or walking away .
It's become too pressurised .
If we are relegated maybe tghat pressure will ease and we can get lads back to enjoying the game like they should and build again fir the future . Without saying e need to bounce straight bsck up .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 167 - 23/05/2023 11:03:49    2480812

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Will Wexford club championships start in June this year with Wexford out?
That should give the clubs a lot more time to play games and get a break in between games?
It does amaze me that the club championships are so squeezed, would Wexford be best off forgetting about the Leinster competions and just decide something has to give and spread out the club championships over a longer period?
If there was a 4G pitch, worries about pitches etc go away so that could be an option.

That a club championship hasn't been played since last July for some clubs is a mess but with April now gone where do you play the matches or what is the least bad option?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 23/05/2023 12:12:08    2480840

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Club football is the reason we are in this position .
Are ye mental no hurler has kicked a ball for club since their respective teams went out of the championship most 6 mths ago solely concentrating on hurling since . Bar fethard lads who had a great run .
With the new structured championship clubs don't get access to players until the season ends . Maybe its too much hurling and they ve become stale and too familiar no respite whatsoever from the constant pressure to perform every day they go out to play plus the responsibility thrown on their shoulders is it too much I would nt like to be and hrecwe are including myself having our tuppence worth .
Is it football fault no its not .
Is the pleasure and fun aspect of playing intr county hurling going the wrong way yes it is .
The negatives seem to be starting to outweigh the positives of playing at present again its just an opinion . Would you like you son to be under this pressure in a time like it is . College work marriage family cost of living crisis. Add in the pressure of these plus the commitment to play intrcounty its no wonder lads are nt performing or walking away .
It's become too pressurised .
If we are relegated maybe tghat pressure will ease and we can get lads back to enjoying the game like they should and build again fir the future . Without saying e need to bounce straight bsck up ."
You are right about enjoyment. I know some parents of players and they are avoiding people this week I am sure. The pressure won`t ease next year as there will be pressure to get back up if we go down. If we stay up, the pressure next year may be less as expectations are low but in championship could you be confident of going away to Offaly/Westmeath/Kilkenny and beating Galway and Dublin at home?

The atmosphere in the county is toxic after being driven by local radio and now social media with people who have been at one game in 5 years suddenly experts. When you see a former mayor commenting about a lack of support for football and camogie from wexford gaa you know the craziness has set in.

We could lose managers, selectors players and adminsitrators at the end of the season. The question is do we have replacements?

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 121 - 23/05/2023 12:26:01    2480852

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Will Wexford club championships start in June this year with Wexford out?
That should give the clubs a lot more time to play games and get a break in between games?
It does amaze me that the club championships are so squeezed, would Wexford be best off forgetting about the Leinster competions and just decide something has to give and spread out the club championships over a longer period?
If there was a 4G pitch, worries about pitches etc go away so that could be an option.

That a club championship hasn't been played since last July for some clubs is a mess but with April now gone where do you play the matches or what is the least bad option?"
In my opinion we have 2 weeks of hurling then 2 weeks of football in rotation or hurling week then football week. What we are doing now is just not working

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 23/05/2023 12:26:41    2480853

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Can you explain why after you got challenged on comments about the minor team which had massive inconsistencies in them you disappeared for 2 or 3 months? Lads like you who only appear here after shocking displays like yesterday are no good."
Tonydoranfan intrigued after a 20 hour crusade you haven't posted once here since I asked you this question?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 23/05/2023 12:37:40    2480864

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Will Wexford club championships start in June this year with Wexford out?
That should give the clubs a lot more time to play games and get a break in between games?
It does amaze me that the club championships are so squeezed, would Wexford be best off forgetting about the Leinster competions and just decide something has to give and spread out the club championships over a longer period?
If there was a 4G pitch, worries about pitches etc go away so that could be an option.

That a club championship hasn't been played since last July for some clubs is a mess but with April now gone where do you play the matches or what is the least bad option?"
Footballers are still in the Tailteann Cup, playing June 4th.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 23/05/2023 12:39:20    2480867

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Your last two lines sum it all up. It is on everyone to lift Wexford hurling. Ironically in recent years the small football minority have shouted loudest and probably got more. The point made about the Wexford underage season being from April to September to fit in two codes is important and apparently it is clubs who resist change as they are afraid players will be playing other sports.

I read an article in the Irish Times this morning which is worth reading. You can change the chairman, manager and anyone else but will it make a fundamental change. The view I have heard from people who know is that our current leadership is a massive step up from a ten years ago. It is also probably true to say that what we sowed ten years ago is being reaped today with the lack of talent between 20 and 24.

Anyway we need 10,000 and more there this weekend screaming for every ball."
Ive my tickets bought me and the kids have followed the lads every step of the way since a cold defeat in Mountrath, bar the Dublin game in Croker when I had a family thing to attend. We have only seen 4 Senior wins in that time including challenge games. And a few more at minor and u20. Hopefully we will see a 5th Senior win Sunday!!!!!
Why is our club underage season so short traditionally? We started back with the u12s end of February/start of March this year but it was very hard as due to the wet winter most of our lads were playing soccer games every weekend to catch up. Right up to the beginning of May. I went down of an evening to Cork working in February and there were lads just finished hurling training in Conna around 7.30pm. The other underage teams at our club didn't start back til April pretty much.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 12:52:56    2480871

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Club football is the reason we are in this position .
Are ye mental no hurler has kicked a ball for club since their respective teams went out of the championship most 6 mths ago solely concentrating on hurling since . Bar fethard lads who had a great run .
With the new structured championship clubs don't get access to players until the season ends . Maybe its too much hurling and they ve become stale and too familiar no respite whatsoever from the constant pressure to perform every day they go out to play plus the responsibility thrown on their shoulders is it too much I would nt like to be and hrecwe are including myself having our tuppence worth .
Is it football fault no its not .
Is the pleasure and fun aspect of playing intr county hurling going the wrong way yes it is .
The negatives seem to be starting to outweigh the positives of playing at present again its just an opinion . Would you like you son to be under this pressure in a time like it is . College work marriage family cost of living crisis. Add in the pressure of these plus the commitment to play intrcounty its no wonder lads are nt performing or walking away .
It's become too pressurised .
If we are relegated maybe tghat pressure will ease and we can get lads back to enjoying the game like they should and build again fir the future . Without saying e need to bounce straight bsck up ."
The problems you outline are true. A lot of pressure on lads to play sport at the highest level coupled with all the other things going on in their lives. Fact is though, all the top counties are faced with the same issues. It's not just a Wexford thing.
It hasn't prevented Limerick, Cork, Tipperary, Clare, Galway or Kilkenny playing at the highest level.
They aren't facing relegation to the Joe Mc Donagh. Our problems are quite simply that we haven't got enough quality players. Staleness and lacking in ideas. The new lads brought in are either not good enough or too inexperienced.
You also have to factor in our poor management team. We may have a few difficult seasons to follow. Improvement will only come about if some of our under 20s come of age and get to grips with playing senior.
A change of manager is an absolute must. Who that might be I don't know. Perhaps Joe Fortune or
Keith Rositter. A Wexford man with real passion is what we need. Not Mercenaries looking to make the quick buck. It could be a long road back but with the right approach it might be sooner than we think.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 260 - 23/05/2023 12:56:32    2480873

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Club football is the reason we are in this position .
Are ye mental no hurler has kicked a ball for club since their respective teams went out of the championship most 6 mths ago solely concentrating on hurling since . Bar fethard lads who had a great run .
With the new structured championship clubs don't get access to players until the season ends . Maybe its too much hurling and they ve become stale and too familiar no respite whatsoever from the constant pressure to perform every day they go out to play plus the responsibility thrown on their shoulders is it too much I would nt like to be and hrecwe are including myself having our tuppence worth .
Is it football fault no its not .
Is the pleasure and fun aspect of playing intr county hurling going the wrong way yes it is .
The negatives seem to be starting to outweigh the positives of playing at present again its just an opinion . Would you like you son to be under this pressure in a time like it is . College work marriage family cost of living crisis. Add in the pressure of these plus the commitment to play intrcounty its no wonder lads are nt performing or walking away .
It's become too pressurised .
If we are relegated maybe tghat pressure will ease and we can get lads back to enjoying the game like they should and build again fir the future . Without saying e need to bounce straight bsck up ."
I'm not blaming club football for the hurlers bad form this year. I'm just saying there are alot of players on other Senior Intercounty hurling panels who don't play it at all, and that has to be an advantage to them.
Lads are on about improving underage structures etc and that's certainly important. But we need to think of ways to make our structures better than everyone else's. Not just better than ours are currently.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 12:59:29    2480874

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "You are right about enjoyment. I know some parents of players and they are avoiding people this week I am sure. The pressure won`t ease next year as there will be pressure to get back up if we go down. If we stay up, the pressure next year may be less as expectations are low but in championship could you be confident of going away to Offaly/Westmeath/Kilkenny and beating Galway and Dublin at home?

The atmosphere in the county is toxic after being driven by local radio and now social media with people who have been at one game in 5 years suddenly experts. When you see a former mayor commenting about a lack of support for football and camogie from wexford gaa you know the craziness has set in.

We could lose managers, selectors players and adminsitrators at the end of the season. The question is do we have replacements?"
If we go down it will be very disappointing if players walk away. Hopefully they will show the same drive and determination that the Oulart lads showed last year and get us back up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 23/05/2023 13:01:59    2480875

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Will Wexford club championships start in June this year with Wexford out?
That should give the clubs a lot more time to play games and get a break in between games?
It does amaze me that the club championships are so squeezed, would Wexford be best off forgetting about the Leinster competions and just decide something has to give and spread out the club championships over a longer period?
If there was a 4G pitch, worries about pitches etc go away so that could be an option.

That a club championship hasn't been played since last July for some clubs is a mess but with April now gone where do you play the matches or what is the least bad option?"
Club championships won't start any earlier than planned. I remember the same question being raised last year, when we'd have been out of the hurling championship by the end of May as well, if we hadn't beaten Kilkenny in the final group game.

Master calendar issued as far back as January stated they'd begin on weekend of Friday June 30/Saturday July 1/Sunday July 2 if Wexford went out of the hurling in or before an All-Ireland quarter-final, and if footballers didn't make the Tailteann Cup Final.

To bring it forward by a couple of weeks now would be unfair on clubs who've set out their whole training programme with an eye to a start on that weekend. For example, it was just last week that my own club started putting more of an emphasis on hurling in the weekly training, and less on football. If the championship start date was brought forward by two or three weeks, it means we should have done that weeks ago.

Don't forget too that there are still many clubs with league semi-finals coming up, and that the finals have to be played too. These are planned for the weekend of June 17/18. So at best, you could only bring the championship start date forward by one week.

Matter of fact, championship start date could even be pushed back rather than brought forward, depending on how our footballers do in the Tailteann Cup. If they happen to find form and win through to the final, it won't be played until July 16, meaning the club championships couldn't start until then.

As regards forgetting about Leinster championships and running our club championships over a longer period of time at the other end of the year....that possibility was mentioned at the full Co. Board meeting (including all club delegates) that decides such things, but was quickly and unanimously dismissed.

The elephant in the room with our club championships is that we're one of the few counties to use exactly the same structure for both hurling and football, and that both require eight rounds of matches, making 16 in total. But that's one for another day....

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 23/05/2023 13:04:13    2480877

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's not the only reason by any stretch. But it is a reason. The examples you give from other counties are the exceptions that prove the rule. And there are plenty of lads around where I live who couldn't care less about hurling, including a few posters on this."
How are they the exceptions that prove the rule?? They all concentrate on one sport at county level and have had hugely successful careers in football without it effecting their intervounty career....wouldn't you call that disproving the rule...I agree with you on lots of things but youre stretching with that one. More excuses and weak excuse. Football at such a low ebb with interest in this county and you try say it's a reason when all these other counties are able to do it at higher levels...

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 23/05/2023 13:18:59    2480882

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Replying To Frontier1000:  "I suppose they are not the worst barometer for Wexford, what I probably should have stated clearer was more that the Wexford players seem to be always up for KK and play poorly vs the other teams. Through work and family, I happen to be in Wexford Town quite often and head to games when I can. It's not nice seeing Wexford Hurling in this state but
as you said the potential is there for Wexford to rebound in a stronger position. Most of all though, I think Wexford needs to mirror the approach that Offaly and Clare have taken in getting their house in order. Clare have a smaller population than Wexford but are producing very good underage teams along with arguably the best senior team in Ireland. Same goes for Offaly. Your not gone yet though and the main focus needs to be getting as big as attendance in Wexford Park for the KK game."
I think that's a cultural thing and it's something I don't really like in Wexford teams. Kilkenny hurl hard no matter who they play against; Wexford can often mess around against some teams and eventually (Like on Sunday), you get caught

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 215 - 23/05/2023 13:23:50    2480887

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