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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I think that if Wexford were to get relegated and then blooded in young players plus didn't have to face a mass exodus of current players, Wexford could bounce back straight away and return in a stronger position. Those are big ifs though.
I used Kilkenny mainly because we can't really compare Wexford to Munster teams at U20s as there isn't a huge amount of inter-provincial matches unless you win your own province. And with Galway only in Leinster at U20 level in the last 5-6 years, Kilkenny have been by and large the best barometer of success in Leinster at U20 for the last 15 years. Wasn't an obsession as such, just thought they were the best barometer in Leinster over that time period" I suppose they are not the worst barometer for Wexford, what I probably should have stated clearer was more that the Wexford players seem to be always up for KK and play poorly vs the other teams. Through work and family, I happen to be in Wexford Town quite often and head to games when I can. It's not nice seeing Wexford Hurling in this state but
as you said the potential is there for Wexford to rebound in a stronger position. Most of all though, I think Wexford needs to mirror the approach that Offaly and Clare have taken in getting their house in order. Clare have a smaller population than Wexford but are producing very good underage teams along with arguably the best senior team in Ireland. Same goes for Offaly. Your not gone yet though and the main focus needs to be getting as big as attendance in Wexford Park for the KK game.
Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 22/05/2023 17:53:20
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Replying To StoreysTash: "To quote Isaac Marion, "We are where we are, however we got here. What matters is where we go next".
Its way past bed time here but insomnia is kicked in.
The time for recrimination and blaming can start after Sunday. We can spend the whole Summer/autumn/winter reviewing whatever we want, where we want to go but first and foremost we need to get the result on Sunday and preserve our status.
Sunday is the most important game in Wexford hurling in years, results go against us and it could be a tough road back regardless of underage teams, etc having good showings.
Do not underestimate how vital it is to win this game.
I would like to think what has gone on with absent players, etc could be sorted this week. We need a penalty taker and had a good one up to this year. This could be the winning and losing of our Liam McCarthy cup status.
What everybody needs to do now is buckle down for 5 days and GET BEHIND THIS TEAM.
EVERY WEXFORD MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH WEXFORD HURLINGS INTEREST AT HEART NEEDS TO GET THEIR A**E TO WEXFORD PARK ON SUNDAY AND DO THEIR BIT TO HELP GET THIS TEAM OVER THE LINE.
THE 1798 REBELLION BEGAN THIS WEEK AND OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OVER A MONTH. WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX.
SUPPORTERS CAN AND NEED TO BE THE 16TH MAN AND ON SUNDAY THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN.
WE BROUGHT 50K WEXFORD PEOPLE IN 2019, WE CAN SURELY FILL THE PARK ON SUNDAY.
I can't be there but will be shouting the on from afar. If people don't go, well no point blaming the county board if you can't say on Sunday evening "I did my bit".
FORGET THE BLAMING, FINGER POINTING UNTIL NEXT WEEK, THE TEAM NEED WEXFORD PEOPLES SUPPORT NOW LIKE THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. GO OUT AND DO YOUR BIT.
UP WEXFORD. " Love it
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2628 - 22/05/2023 18:08:32
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Replying To Viking66: ""Ans who ever said anything about lacing ball down to the full forward line hurling in leinster back in the nineties was a mans game the way munster is now. .Sounds like you were not around at that time to witness a proper mans game"
This what you posted. All 5 of the Munster counties play a shorter game now. With typically 2 inside sometimes one. Tipp were one of the last counties playing a longer game. I'd say this year we have hit a higher percentage of our puckouts long than any other county this championship tbh. Even Galway and Kilkenny. And that has really worked out well for us hasn't it?" I can garantee i went to more wexford games in nineties than you did in a time where gear bags were gear bags and not wash bags. The number 1 thing you do first is play for the jersey then when a team is confident in there own ability you can start thinking about tactics. The reason darragh egan is not successful in wexford is because he plays the tipp way and that is the opposite to the wexford way.
Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 22/05/2023 18:12:28
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Replying To Viking66: "Losing Connors and Shanahan was maybe a mistake though?" They got to the All Ireland final the following year. Granted it was the two covid years (and championship was ran off in a bit of a Mickey mouse fashion) but Limerick knocked them out both years. Granted they look in as bad as shape as ours now.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 184 - 22/05/2023 19:10:22
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Replying To Wexpurebred: "I agree with you about one thing and rossi and joe fortune would be a good move because there from wexford who im 100% sure would get the ball rolling if there was at least 2 others from 96 involved. Martin storey in my book was very unlucky not to make the breakthrough in manage ment .He managed that minor team of lee chin d okeefe conor mac p foley j oconnor ian byrne liam ryan etc and more. Dublin scored 1. 3 in injury time a game i was at in parnell park In a game wexford should have won. I believe to this day if wexford had won that match storey would have went the whole way to the top in management. I say give him another chance himself and rossi would work very well.100% garanteed. I dont know what anybody else thinks but i really think tom dempsey would be great in the county board to do a job that micheal duignan is doing with offaly." Tom Dempsey is a very positive man so you could be onto something there. Has he been on the County Board before? Would he want to be?
As regards Martin Storey he is a likeable man too, and interesting to talk to briefly, though I don't really know him. Not sure his man management and tactics would be up to managing the egos of some modern intercounty players though.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 22/05/2023 19:20:18
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Let's face it, as much as I hate the idea of playing in the lower tier its certainly looking likely.
Hopefully we can somehow survive. If it should happen then all we can do is face up to it. If we get a decent manager once Egan is gone, it will give the new players time to blend in to the senior setup. Less pressure and when or if we get back up to play against the big boys a lot of experience will be gained. Of course that's not what we want but it may become a reality. Anyway it's the cats up next and if we can't rise to the occasion against the old enemy then when will we? Its not easy but its best to get last week's disaster out of the system and play with passion and pride. The players are hurting right now and I am quite certain we will see a different wexford next Sunday. With heart and hand.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 260 - 22/05/2023 19:40:14
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Cant see that as reason for failing at senior level, You know as well as I do that football is given a very token gesture in a lot of the big hurling clubs in this county,it's not exactly an amazingly high standard that most of our hurlers are still the best clubs players in Wexford while giving it maybe less than 10% of the same time commitment between county hurling and club hurling. Ive no doubt when theyre playing the games they give their all but i dont think uts having that big an impact. I dont see it holding back Tipp, Dublin, Cork, Limerick and even a strong percentageof th Clare team are dual club players, Galway have dual players too but maybe not as many those other top counties. A lot of our lads have given football a miss at stages in their careers too and didnt have any added effect. They mightnt have a same percentage of everyone playing everything but it's madness to say because lads are playing both at club level is effecting them at county level. We might be a dual county in the sense people play both but it in terms of people interest and players (if were tbh) caring, it's a hurling county." Around 80 percent of intercounty hurlers on the Tipp, Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Clare teams don't play football at a high club level. 80 percent of ours do. A lad who only plays intercounty and club hurling devotes all his time to hurling. Lads like O'hanlon, Ryan, the 3 Foleys, Oisin Pepper, Mogie, Dee O Keefe, the O Connors, the Firmans, Banville, Hearne, Donohue, Devitt, Chin for many years, all play for their 1st teams in senior club football, while Flood, Carty, Dwyer, Byrne Dunbar, Byrne, Scallan, Doran, Mcguckin, Lawlor, Foley all play for their first teams in Intermediate football. Some of these were with the intercounty footballers. They would all have football training as well as hurling training to do.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 22/05/2023 19:44:51
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Replying To Timbertony: "DF certainly had a good sense of timing but he did make us competitive immediately. In Liam Dunnes last season, we were humiliated by KK, another downing tools job, and Waterford beat us in second gear in Thurles. There was a bad hiding by a limited enough Limerick team in Thurles the year before too.
U20 is still a long way from senior but I'd like to see likes of Mahon, Roche, Carley, Byrne, Whelan, O'Hagan in the 26 next season. To do that we will need to clear out some of the senior squad, really think we are in dire need of what Liam Cahill did when he went to Waterford first. Absolutely ruthless letting likes of Connors and Shanahan go." Think Roche and Whelan are still u20 next year too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 22/05/2023 20:40:36
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Cant see that as reason for failing at senior level, You know as well as I do that football is given a very token gesture in a lot of the big hurling clubs in this county,it's not exactly an amazingly high standard that most of our hurlers are still the best clubs players in Wexford while giving it maybe less than 10% of the same time commitment between county hurling and club hurling. Ive no doubt when theyre playing the games they give their all but i dont think uts having that big an impact. I dont see it holding back Tipp, Dublin, Cork, Limerick and even a strong percentageof th Clare team are dual club players, Galway have dual players too but maybe not as many those other top counties. A lot of our lads have given football a miss at stages in their careers too and didnt have any added effect. They mightnt have a same percentage of everyone playing everything but it's madness to say because lads are playing both at club level is effecting them at county level. We might be a dual county in the sense people play both but it in terms of people interest and players (if were tbh) caring, it's a hurling county." Plenty of the Tipp lads play club football.
Our secondary schools hurling is very poor and this is a big problem.
Ard Scoik Ris in Limerick, St Kieran's in Kilkenny, Thurles CBS in Tipp, Flannans in Clare & A few Cork schools very strong too.
St Peters are very weak now and Good Counsel backboned by South Kilkenny lads. M
I've said this time and time again aswel club hurling in Wexford at all levels is played at a really slow pace.
I am not sure why but I've seen Kilkenny and senior intermediate club finals and the pace seems so much faster.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 716 - 22/05/2023 20:41:45
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Replying To StoreysTash: "To quote Isaac Marion, "We are where we are, however we got here. What matters is where we go next".
Its way past bed time here but insomnia is kicked in.
The time for recrimination and blaming can start after Sunday. We can spend the whole Summer/autumn/winter reviewing whatever we want, where we want to go but first and foremost we need to get the result on Sunday and preserve our status.
Sunday is the most important game in Wexford hurling in years, results go against us and it could be a tough road back regardless of underage teams, etc having good showings.
Do not underestimate how vital it is to win this game.
I would like to think what has gone on with absent players, etc could be sorted this week. We need a penalty taker and had a good one up to this year. This could be the winning and losing of our Liam McCarthy cup status.
What everybody needs to do now is buckle down for 5 days and GET BEHIND THIS TEAM.
EVERY WEXFORD MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH WEXFORD HURLINGS INTEREST AT HEART NEEDS TO GET THEIR A**E TO WEXFORD PARK ON SUNDAY AND DO THEIR BIT TO HELP GET THIS TEAM OVER THE LINE.
THE 1798 REBELLION BEGAN THIS WEEK AND OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OVER A MONTH. WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX.
SUPPORTERS CAN AND NEED TO BE THE 16TH MAN AND ON SUNDAY THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN.
WE BROUGHT 50K WEXFORD PEOPLE IN 2019, WE CAN SURELY FILL THE PARK ON SUNDAY.
I can't be there but will be shouting the on from afar. If people don't go, well no point blaming the county board if you can't say on Sunday evening "I did my bit".
FORGET THE BLAMING, FINGER POINTING UNTIL NEXT WEEK, THE TEAM NEED WEXFORD PEOPLES SUPPORT NOW LIKE THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. GO OUT AND DO YOUR BIT.
UP WEXFORD. " "WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX."
Will all of them fit on the pitch? Even the great TJ Ried may not be able to swing his stick with that amount of people playing.
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Apropos to nothing really only that I wanted to distract myself from the gloom, but since we have started to regress after 2019 (specfically since the re-issuing of the Wexford GAA bible) both Chin and Mac have moved into our top four championship scorers of all-time standings. In fact Chin (5-212) is now only 43 points behind the GOAT and is our record point-scorer, while Mac (19-115) is just ten behind Tony (42-56). Its mad that it's argued (with justification) that we don't get the best out of either of them, and that seemingly dropping Mac was the answer to all our problems.
Don't know if anyone else finds it interesting, but I do!
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 22/05/2023 21:22:27
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I'm not from Wexford but I really hope that the Yellowbellies are playing Senior Championship next year. We need all the strong traditional counties involved. There is a great passion in these counties, I'm all for new counties getting promoted but not to the detriment of the old traditional hurling stronghold counties.
Good luck next week against the Cats.
Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 49 - 22/05/2023 21:31:08
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Replying To Viking66: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "[quote=StoreysTash: "To quote Isaac Marion, "We are where we are, however we got here. What matters is where we go next".
Its way past bed time here but insomnia is kicked in.
The time for recrimination and blaming can start after Sunday. We can spend the whole Summer/autumn/winter reviewing whatever we want, where we want to go but first and foremost we need to get the result on Sunday and preserve our status.
Sunday is the most important game in Wexford hurling in years, results go against us and it could be a tough road back regardless of underage teams, etc having good showings.
Do not underestimate how vital it is to win this game.
I would like to think what has gone on with absent players, etc could be sorted this week. We need a penalty taker and had a good one up to this year. This could be the winning and losing of our Liam McCarthy cup status.
What everybody needs to do now is buckle down for 5 days and GET BEHIND THIS TEAM.
EVERY WEXFORD MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH WEXFORD HURLINGS INTEREST AT HEART NEEDS TO GET THEIR A**E TO WEXFORD PARK ON SUNDAY AND DO THEIR BIT TO HELP GET THIS TEAM OVER THE LINE.
THE 1798 REBELLION BEGAN THIS WEEK AND OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OVER A MONTH. WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX.
SUPPORTERS CAN AND NEED TO BE THE 16TH MAN AND ON SUNDAY THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN.
WE BROUGHT 50K WEXFORD PEOPLE IN 2019, WE CAN SURELY FILL THE PARK ON SUNDAY.
I can't be there but will be shouting the on from afar. If people don't go, well no point blaming the county board if you can't say on Sunday evening "I did my bit".
FORGET THE BLAMING, FINGER POINTING UNTIL NEXT WEEK, THE TEAM NEED WEXFORD PEOPLES SUPPORT NOW LIKE THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. GO OUT AND DO YOUR BIT.
UP WEXFORD. " "THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN." Wexford might not be playing Galway, Kilkenny and Carlow next year."
That said. While I wouldn't like to see Wexford relegated, I want and expect Kilkenny to go all-out to win.
Reading all the comments on here, I get the feeling there could be changes afoot for Wexford hurling. So maybe a season in the Joe McDonagh might not be so bad. With a new manager and probably several new (young) players, it would give them a chance to find their way. I would expect them to at least make the JM final, if not win it. This would give the added bonus of qualifying for the All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Finals, and testing themselves against either the third placed Munster or Leinster finishers.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 22/05/2023 21:53:42
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Replying To Viking66: "Disagree about the dual players in other counties. I wasn't actually just talking about underage most of our Senior hurling panel play football at Senior or Intermediate club level also. That's not the case for 80% plus players of any of the other top 9 counties. Numerous friends from other counties have flagged this up as a reason also." The McGraths in Tipp regularly play county senior finals in football. Cratloe in Clare were pushing hard in both sports up to recent times. I think it's a watery enough excuse, especially with the split club season. Likes of Lee Chin only togging for football relegation finals and interest levels with a lot of them playing club football would be weak enough. A handful of games after the hurling is over for most of them.
I think the record of club teams in All Ireland club competitions is another red herring. For one, Ballyhale have been the strongest club team in a generation so beating them is unlikely. Also with the club championship finishing early, no wonder the likes of Ferns have struggled. But that's no reason to revert back to the nonsense format. Senior club hurling is very competitive in its current format, that's what you want. Club players have certainty in the calendar too so standards will improve. Lots of recent winners and every team has to fight to stay up When likes of Oulart and Rathnure were winning Leinsters the county team was still terrible!
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 184 - 22/05/2023 23:22:58
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If we go down which looks more likely the longer the week goes on after our defeat to westmeath.
Very hard to see how we can lift it enough to beat r draw with an improving Killkenny. Who will I m sure be giving everything on the day even if resting players their fringe will surely relish a chance to impress for the big games coming for them would we hold back if we had a chance to relegate them .
Cant see westmeath getting a result v Antrim which means we have to get a result
Our confidence is as low as could be I really hope I m wrong and maybe over the years of defeat and especially watching the effort on the field in recent times I have become disillusioned.
When u play regardless of who is manager coach chairman you try your hardest on that field . Why else would you be there.
We are now in the fight of our lives we ll see what fight is in our players .
Regards replacing the manager the week of our biggest game ever what will that do .
I'm sure the players will be talking to him especially the more established ones and they will dictate who should be on the team and where .
Let Mr Martin sit I the stand and be chairman as he is no leader and most certainly keep him out of the dressing room as any speech to inspire will not .
Petty squabbles on the radio btween 2 people who know very little about the game does nt interest me .
He comes across as someone who holds little respect even less over last couple weeks .
If we fight I will continue to always support them regardless of result but if they throw the towel in they will lose my respect forever not wexford this team or certain players at least 7 o 8 have given everything over their careers and I m sure will continue to.
the rest need to realise just getting the wexford jersey does not entitle them to be heroes and adulated. That right needs to be earned like many a wexford hero before them .
If we go down let's hope its a new beginning with fresh ideas and a willingness to put in the hard work and decisions . Who s fault it wil be .
The management the county board the players the coaching staff the clubs their managers their coaches the academies ultimately it will come down to me and you as we are the grass roots and the game will only be as good in the county as we make it .
I look back now and I ask myself could I have done more answer probably yes . From coaching to player development yes I could did I ever think this day would come no I did nt . But yet hear we are .
Come Sunday evening no matter what the result the rebuilding should begin in earnest for ALL OF US .
For now let's just support them all and get to park . Can't be just for the good days it has to be every day .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 167 - 23/05/2023 08:53:35
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Our leaders really need to step up this week like never before. We are a proud hurling county and people and we cant give up our status without a massive fight . Im expecting a reaction on Sunday our backs are well and truly against the wall.
Im praying we dig ourselves out of this situation and then re evaluate how we do things in this county. It's only a bit over decade since the Bonnar era and we have found ourselves in the same situation again.
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 23/05/2023 09:59:40
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Replying To Viking66: "Around 80 percent of intercounty hurlers on the Tipp, Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Clare teams don't play football at a high club level. 80 percent of ours do. A lad who only plays intercounty and club hurling devotes all his time to hurling. Lads like O'hanlon, Ryan, the 3 Foleys, Oisin Pepper, Mogie, Dee O Keefe, the O Connors, the Firmans, Banville, Hearne, Donohue, Devitt, Chin for many years, all play for their 1st teams in senior club football, while Flood, Carty, Dwyer, Byrne Dunbar, Byrne, Scallan, Doran, Mcguckin, Lawlor, Foley all play for their first teams in Intermediate football. Some of these were with the intercounty footballers. They would all have football training as well as hurling training to do." I really think you're over emphasizing that point a lot, it's a small reason and a handy excuse. I don't see Cork blaming the Cahallanes, Alan Cadogan, Luke Meade, those former cork u20s who have all ireland football titles or Galway blaming Daithi Burke or Clare blaming Aidan McCarthy, Cathal Malone, Conor Cleary etc (just names off the top of my head) for having football has a negative, all those lads either have senior all Ireland's, minor all irrlands, u20 all irelands, club all Ireland's, senior county titles etc at football and it hasn't been used as an excuse, they were operating in high quality teams than any wexford football team at club or county so I don't buy that for a minute. In fact most of them have brought great attributes from one to the other, all great tacklers and physical...something all lads don't seem to have picked up from all the time they've spent playing football. Dublin hurlers have lost most of their best talents to football in a similar way our footballers have lost to the hurlers but ya don't see either blame the other for any skill deficiency, theyll blame the other for stealing their best player but not saying theyd be better if they didnt have the other growing up. Cork could be loosing some of their best prospects at hurling and football to rugby, playing 3 sports at such a high level hasnt effected them either
It's a tiny tiny reason. You might look into Kilkenny as your reason for saying that and they're an exception to the case and tbh it's blight against them, although going by our split season at club they way they run off thir football is nearly equal to length we run off ours at. It's the last I'll say of it. It's a handy excuse especially when one is given twice as much time and attention in this county and given way more attention and way way more people in this county care about it. Going around to clubs in this county you'd be hard pressed to find a young boy or girl who could name more than 2 or 3 county footballers
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Replying To Wexpurebred: "I can garantee i went to more wexford games in nineties than you did in a time where gear bags were gear bags and not wash bags. The number 1 thing you do first is play for the jersey then when a team is confident in there own ability you can start thinking about tactics. The reason darragh egan is not successful in wexford is because he plays the tipp way and that is the opposite to the wexford way." Truthfully I didn't go to many underage games through the 90s, or that many League games until the mid 90s. But I do know hurling has evolved a good deal since then. What I will agree with you 100% about is that there was a distinctive Wexford way up until the early noughties. The players would die for the shirt. We werent the best team by any stretch in the 90s. But lads would fight for every ball.
Nowadays there's a complacency and an assumption of superiority in Wexford hurling, inbuilt into the fans and players and everyone associated, that's the root cause of many of the problems. A sense of entitlement. Lads at all levels seem to think that because of that tradition established in the 50s and 60s and 70s, and built on a little in the 90s, Wexford hurling will always be superior to middle tier counties. Liam Dunne did his best to change that perception by getting the lads to work hard, fight hard, earn some success. In fairness to Davy he did continue that, but should've brought through more lads at the top level.
What's worrying this year is the absence of that fight. Lee Chin and the other leaders of the team noticeably didn't gee up the lads at all out on the pitch last weekend, either by word or action. All year we have been very flat that way, except maybe in PUC.
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Replying To Wexpurebred: "I can garantee i went to more wexford games in nineties than you did in a time where gear bags were gear bags and not wash bags. The number 1 thing you do first is play for the jersey then when a team is confident in there own ability you can start thinking about tactics. The reason darragh egan is not successful in wexford is because he plays the tipp way and that is the opposite to the wexford way." Truthfully I didn't go to many underage games through the 90s, or that many League games until the mid 90s. But I do know hurling has evolved a good deal since then. What I will agree with you 100% about is that there was a distinctive Wexford way up until the early noughties. The players would die for the shirt. We werent the best team by any stretch in the 90s. But lads would fight for every ball.
Nowadays there's a complacency and an assumption of superiority in Wexford hurling, inbuilt into the fans and players and everyone associated, that's the root cause of many of the problems. A sense of entitlement. Lads at all levels seem to think that because of that tradition established in the 50s and 60s and 70s, and built on a little in the 90s, Wexford hurling will always be superior to middle tier counties. Liam Dunne did his best to change that perception by getting the lads to work hard, fight hard, earn some success. In fairness to Davy he did continue that, but should've brought through more lads at the top level.
What's worrying this year is the absence of that fight. Lee Chin and the other leaders of the team noticeably didn't gee up the lads at all out on the pitch last weekend, either by word or action. All year we have been very flat that way, except maybe in PUC.
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Replying To foreveryoung: " Replying To StoreysTash: "To quote Isaac Marion, "We are where we are, however we got here. What matters is where we go next".
Its way past bed time here but insomnia is kicked in.
The time for recrimination and blaming can start after Sunday. We can spend the whole Summer/autumn/winter reviewing whatever we want, where we want to go but first and foremost we need to get the result on Sunday and preserve our status.
Sunday is the most important game in Wexford hurling in years, results go against us and it could be a tough road back regardless of underage teams, etc having good showings.
Do not underestimate how vital it is to win this game.
I would like to think what has gone on with absent players, etc could be sorted this week. We need a penalty taker and had a good one up to this year. This could be the winning and losing of our Liam McCarthy cup status.
What everybody needs to do now is buckle down for 5 days and GET BEHIND THIS TEAM.
EVERY WEXFORD MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH WEXFORD HURLINGS INTEREST AT HEART NEEDS TO GET THEIR A**E TO WEXFORD PARK ON SUNDAY AND DO THEIR BIT TO HELP GET THIS TEAM OVER THE LINE.
THE 1798 REBELLION BEGAN THIS WEEK AND OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OVER A MONTH. WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX.
SUPPORTERS CAN AND NEED TO BE THE 16TH MAN AND ON SUNDAY THIS CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYING GALWAY AND KILKENNY NEXT YEAR OR PLAYING CARLOW AND DOWN.
WE BROUGHT 50K WEXFORD PEOPLE IN 2019, WE CAN SURELY FILL THE PARK ON SUNDAY.
I can't be there but will be shouting the on from afar. If people don't go, well no point blaming the county board if you can't say on Sunday evening "I did my bit".
FORGET THE BLAMING, FINGER POINTING UNTIL NEXT WEEK, THE TEAM NEED WEXFORD PEOPLES SUPPORT NOW LIKE THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. GO OUT AND DO YOUR BIT.
UP WEXFORD. " "WE NEED OUR SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR EVERY TACKLE, LINE BALL, FREE, CATCH THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARK ON SUNDAY FOR TWO HOURS MAX." Will all of them fit on the pitch? Even the great TJ Ried may not be able to swing his stick with that amount of people playing."
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 23/05/2023 10:27:27
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