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Davy Fitzgerald Returning To Waterford

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Replying To Dec82andahalf:  "Davy's record from 2014 onwards is absolutely shocking, he's beaten Kilkenny in 2017 and 2019 and that was down to the way Cody played against him. Seen on twitter this morning that his win rate since 2014 in championship is 17%.

Honestly don't understand what people see in him. His hurling is dreadful to watch, his teams aren't set up to win, there set up not to concede."
Another bitter Clare man. Greatest bunch to turn on their own. Be no All Ireland in Clare in over 100 years without him.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 656 - 12/08/2022 15:02:26    2437179

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his management record since clare won in 2013 is shocking......... the waterford county board cant have had too may looking for the job when fitz got it he brings nothing only drama to the setup........he reminds me of a soccer player moving from one club to the next badge kissing....he kept telling us about the wexford players and how much he loved those boys........and after a few weeks in waterford we'll be hearing the same tune again about how wonderful waterford are and how much he loves them. all davy wants is limelight and money. i cannot for the life of me figure why county boards keep bringing him on board. no manager can properly study a match from the sideline if he is screaming and jumping around the place

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 12/08/2022 15:11:28    2437181

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I heard he is being linked to the vacant Waterford job..........

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 318 - 23/07/2022 16:08:10 2433754

Turns out my blah-eating contact was right...

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1202 - 12/08/2022 15:28:30    2437188

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Didn't take him long to talk to the media, already bleating about tough job ahead, it's mind boggling how county boards can be taken in.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1563 - 12/08/2022 16:05:26    2437197

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Why all the criticism and negativity towards Davy from Waterford people? Are they ever actually happy?"
No negativity here. He has the job now and should be supported. The people on here I have issue with is the ones who think a Waterford man can not die the job.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2728 - 12/08/2022 16:06:42    2437198

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Another bitter Clare man. Greatest bunch to turn on their own. Be no All Ireland in Clare in over 100 years without him."
He made some crucial saves in 95 and 97. And he brought Kinnerk in in 2013. Not sure if its true they wouldn't have won those 3 without him though. That Clare team of the mid 90s were excellent and well motivated by Loughnane. And they won 3 u21 AIs in a row in the teens they had some excellent hurlers at that time.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12830 - 12/08/2022 16:20:28    2437206

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "his management record since clare won in 2013 is shocking......... the waterford county board cant have had too may looking for the job when fitz got it he brings nothing only drama to the setup........he reminds me of a soccer player moving from one club to the next badge kissing....he kept telling us about the wexford players and how much he loved those boys........and after a few weeks in waterford we'll be hearing the same tune again about how wonderful waterford are and how much he loves them. all davy wants is limelight and money. i cannot for the life of me figure why county boards keep bringing him on board. no manager can properly study a match from the sideline if he is screaming and jumping around the place"
I wouldn't put 2013 down him either.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 34 - 12/08/2022 16:56:11    2437209

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Another bitter Clare man. Greatest bunch to turn on their own. Be no All Ireland in Clare in over 100 years without him."
Who else have we turned on?

If Clare had a different manager in 2013 with Paul Kinnerk as coach, I'd say Clare would of won 1 or 2 more but Davy played his own system from 2014 onwards and look how that went.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 34 - 12/08/2022 17:00:55    2437212

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Replying To Dec82andahalf:  "Davy's record from 2014 onwards is absolutely shocking, he's beaten Kilkenny in 2017 and 2019 and that was down to the way Cody played against him. Seen on twitter this morning that his win rate since 2014 in championship is 17%.

Honestly don't understand what people see in him. His hurling is dreadful to watch, his teams aren't set up to win, there set up not to concede."
Harsh considering he's managed Clare to 25% of their All Ireland wins..

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 12/08/2022 17:03:21    2437213

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "his management record since clare won in 2013 is shocking......... the waterford county board cant have had too may looking for the job when fitz got it he brings nothing only drama to the setup........he reminds me of a soccer player moving from one club to the next badge kissing....he kept telling us about the wexford players and how much he loved those boys........and after a few weeks in waterford we'll be hearing the same tune again about how wonderful waterford are and how much he loves them. all davy wants is limelight and money. i cannot for the life of me figure why county boards keep bringing him on board. no manager can properly study a match from the sideline if he is screaming and jumping around the place"
I agree with a lot of what you said but to be fair to Davy if he's with you he's 110% behind his team's and backs them to the last and he seems to get fierce loyalty from players under him.
And as he told Waterford players in the past, he has two all ireland medals and they have #### all .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1981 - 12/08/2022 19:23:51    2437231

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He could well win something, will that be an ireland(possibly) but it will undoubtedly all end in tears.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1012 - 12/08/2022 21:27:20    2437240

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Harsh considering he's managed Clare to 25% of their All Ireland wins.."
That 25% amounts to 1 win. Statistics, statistics.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2232 - 13/08/2022 11:09:16    2437256

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Harsh considering he's managed Clare to 25% of their All Ireland wins.."
Maybe, there's probably even a very small percentage of people who'd consider it abuse.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 34 - 13/08/2022 11:09:30    2437257

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "his management record since clare won in 2013 is shocking......... the waterford county board cant have had too may looking for the job when fitz got it he brings nothing only drama to the setup........he reminds me of a soccer player moving from one club to the next badge kissing....he kept telling us about the wexford players and how much he loved those boys........and after a few weeks in waterford we'll be hearing the same tune again about how wonderful waterford are and how much he loves them. all davy wants is limelight and money. i cannot for the life of me figure why county boards keep bringing him on board. no manager can properly study a match from the sideline if he is screaming and jumping around the place"
Brian Codys management record since 2015 is pretty poor, we can all make points by saying since.
And besides, his time in charge of wexford couldn't be described as shocking.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1796 - 13/08/2022 11:52:43    2437264

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Davy's boyhood dream was to manage Waterford twice.....

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1624 - 13/08/2022 12:07:24    2437267

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Davy's boyhood dream was to manage Waterford twice....."
Haha, good one!

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1981 - 13/08/2022 12:50:17    2437269

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Brian Codys management record since 2015 is pretty poor, we can all make points by saying since.
And besides, his time in charge of wexford couldn't be described as shocking."
what planet are you living on... *brian cody s record has been pretty poor since 2015*..... since 2015 he has won 4 leinsters ( including a 3 in a row ), 2 national leagues contested 3 all ireland finals.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 13/08/2022 13:13:58    2437272

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It fascinated me repeatedly the amount of coverage and talk the subject of intercounty manager gets as though they are some sort of saviour when in fact the primary reason that any team wins any competition is predominantly due to the talent on the field. A team is more likely to be successful with a brillant group of players and a mediocre manager than the reverse. A manager can only work with what he has, Brian Cody is a prime example.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1948 - 13/08/2022 13:21:34    2437275

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Replying To Canuck:  "No negativity here. He has the job now and should be supported. The people on here I have issue with is the ones who think a Waterford man can not die the job."
I was actually wondering when job was open, what Waterford candidates apart from McGrath are suitable? Is O' Sullivan a Waterford man or suitable?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 656 - 13/08/2022 13:33:55    2437277

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "what planet are you living on... *brian cody s record has been pretty poor since 2015*..... since 2015 he has won 4 leinsters ( including a 3 in a row ), 2 national leagues contested 3 all ireland finals."
I think you'll find that the measure of success in Kilkenny is all ireland titles. A bit like Kerry, they don't place much stock on provincial or national league titles. So by that yardstick his record since 2015 is not great despite what you allude to. Plus with no apparent new talent coming through, he decide to step down. I'd say he would love to have won an all ireland one last time before retiring but it wasn't to be.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1948 - 13/08/2022 14:42:50    2437283

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