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Davy Fitzgerald Returning To Waterford

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Papers are today suggesting that Davy Fitzgerald is making a return to Waterford

Wonder how that will sit with Waterford fans ?

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 949 - 10/08/2022 11:44:49    2436936

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Replying To clooney:  "Papers are today suggesting that Davy Fitzgerald is making a return to Waterford

Wonder how that will sit with Waterford fans ?"
He gets such a slagging but I've always thought that behind it all he's a bloody good manager with a good track record of improving teams, the only issue being that his personality and training intensity eventually wear thin meaning he usually has to leave after maybe 4 seasons.
I'd go for it if I was waterford anyways.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1873 - 10/08/2022 12:21:05    2436941

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Replying To Galway9801:  "He gets such a slagging but I've always thought that behind it all he's a bloody good manager with a good track record of improving teams, the only issue being that his personality and training intensity eventually wear thin meaning he usually has to leave after maybe 4 seasons.
I'd go for it if I was waterford anyways."
agree he always has a good start lots of talent down there he could just crack it wouldn't begrudge them either

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 949 - 10/08/2022 12:53:21    2436952

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There is mixed feelings I would say. One long time fan I know of said he would never go to another game if Davy returns. Personally I think who ever it is should be supported in doing the job.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2781 - 10/08/2022 14:02:27    2436956

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Replying To Canuck:  "There is mixed feelings I would say. One long time fan I know of said he would never go to another game if Davy returns. Personally I think who ever it is should be supported in doing the job."
where would they get a better man?

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 317 - 10/08/2022 14:46:49    2436961

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "where would they get a better man?"
In Waterford.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2781 - 10/08/2022 15:55:07    2436973

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Would it not be a case of doing the same thing again expecting different results?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1997 - 10/08/2022 16:13:49    2436981

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In ANY sport you pick the best AVAILABLE choice. Now there may be better Managers out there than Davy but are they willing and available? Either way best of luck to Davy and Waterford Hurlers. Tons of talent for whoever takes the job.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2194 - 10/08/2022 16:40:40    2436985

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Replying To Trump2020:  "In ANY sport you pick the best AVAILABLE choice. Now there may be better Managers out there than Davy but are they willing and available? Either way best of luck to Davy and Waterford Hurlers. Tons of talent for whoever takes the job."
Who is the best though for us ? The best result for us in three All-Irelands was by a Waterford man. The other two got hammered. The two All-Irelands we have Waterford people were in charge. Waterford managed teams have won under aged All-Irelands recently. Peter Queally has wanted the job for years but not given a look in. . The Waterford most successful manager Michael Ryan got dumped after only loss and several wins.
I am not anti Davy and actually like him but there is no magic bullet.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2781 - 10/08/2022 17:51:37    2437001

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Replying To Canuck:  "In Waterford."
In Kilkenny over the border (Mick Fennelly is a man that I'd say could get that bit more out of those Waterford players).

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2046 - 10/08/2022 19:14:11    2437011

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I would have loved Davy to get the Dublin job, not because I think he is anything innovative or that. The biggest thing he did in Wexford was generate massive hype, raised the profile of hurling in the county and exercised some dormant among casual fans. The achievements were not exceptional though, 1 Leinster from a county who had won 3 x U21 titles was modest in my opinion.

I think if he had got the Dublin job it might have had a similar effect though. I wish him well in Waterford, most of Ireland's favourite Munster team I think. would say. Certainly in Wexford if you ever go in to a pub when Waterford are playing, the whole pub tends to be rooting for them.

He will have better players to work with than he did in Wexford but its a huge ask to expect them to win an All-Ireland at the same time. I can't see Limerick's dominance ending for another few years.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1231 - 11/08/2022 08:58:48    2437025

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A interesting appointment if it happens but as an outsider looking in at Waterford I don't understand why there isn't a manager within the county who can do the job?

We went outside from 2009 - 2014 with three Cork men and that produced one Munster title. Getting TJ Ryan as sole manager and then John Kiely made it feel more like we were taking control ourselves again. There was also some superb coaching going on underage and then Paul Kinnerk came to Limerick.

Waterford club hurling looks very strong and there is a solid group of players for any manager to work with. Davy in his first term with Waterford often played with one on the full forward line and his teams lost an all Ireland final by 23 points and a Munster final by 21 points. Nothing against Davy - he is a talented manager with a fine track record, but as a marriage of manager & players available would this be the right appointment? It just seems like Waterford are missing one spark to tie everything together.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 11/08/2022 09:57:40    2437033

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "In Kilkenny over the border (Mick Fennelly is a man that I'd say could get that bit more out of those Waterford players)."
Mick Fennelly's achievements with Offaly were nothing to write home about. Yes he got them up out of the Christy Ring cup but that surely was a given for them given the calibre of teams in it.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1231 - 11/08/2022 10:26:28    2437038

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For sure Davy while increase interest and hype. He is a good hurling man and puts his heart into it. Your best chance with him is success as quickly as possible. When he came in 2008 again it was an established team probably closer to the end than this one. Got them to a final and hammered. In fairness that was by a machine like the current Limerick greats.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2781 - 11/08/2022 18:37:51    2437101

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Tadhg get your brush, Davys got a job for you.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 11/08/2022 21:51:35    2437112

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Why all the criticism and negativity towards Davy from Waterford people? Are they ever actually happy?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 662 - 12/08/2022 09:16:33    2437118

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Mick Fennelly's achievements with Offaly were nothing to write home about. Yes he got them up out of the Christy Ring cup but that surely was a given for them given the calibre of teams in it."
And even then it took him two attempts to get them over the line.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1448 - 12/08/2022 09:32:37    2437121

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Replying To slayer:  "A interesting appointment if it happens but as an outsider looking in at Waterford I don't understand why there isn't a manager within the county who can do the job?

We went outside from 2009 - 2014 with three Cork men and that produced one Munster title. Getting TJ Ryan as sole manager and then John Kiely made it feel more like we were taking control ourselves again. There was also some superb coaching going on underage and then Paul Kinnerk came to Limerick.

Waterford club hurling looks very strong and there is a solid group of players for any manager to work with. Davy in his first term with Waterford often played with one on the full forward line and his teams lost an all Ireland final by 23 points and a Munster final by 21 points. Nothing against Davy - he is a talented manager with a fine track record, but as a marriage of manager & players available would this be the right appointment? It just seems like Waterford are missing one spark to tie everything together."
Waterford club hurling isn't as strong as ya think. Ballygunner destroying everyone is no good. I think there is a fear in Waterford that ballygunner are trying to take over on all departments and that's why they are after going for Davy.

Me personally I think it's a backwards step for them they have quality players unless he evolves his tactics and approch

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 291 - 12/08/2022 10:23:41    2437127

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Davy's record from 2014 onwards is absolutely shocking, he's beaten Kilkenny in 2017 and 2019 and that was down to the way Cody played against him. Seen on twitter this morning that his win rate since 2014 in championship is 17%.

Honestly don't understand what people see in him. His hurling is dreadful to watch, his teams aren't set up to win, there set up not to concede.

Dec82andahalf (Clare) - Posts: 34 - 12/08/2022 13:47:39    2437159

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Replying To Canuck:  "Who is the best though for us ? The best result for us in three All-Irelands was by a Waterford man. The other two got hammered. The two All-Irelands we have Waterford people were in charge. Waterford managed teams have won under aged All-Irelands recently. Peter Queally has wanted the job for years but not given a look in. . The Waterford most successful manager Michael Ryan got dumped after only loss and several wins.
I am not anti Davy and actually like him but there is no magic bullet."
Hey you'll get no argument from me but like I said above there may be better than Davy out there but are they willing to take the job? Look at Galway Hurling: a Kilkenny man running the show. I personally don't care whether we have a Galway man running the show or not. Just get the damn job done. I hope Waterford sort it all out as they have some very fine hurlers.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2194 - 12/08/2022 14:19:51    2437172

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