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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Ireland in a World Cup final and we can't even have our National anthem played…. A total disgrace."
Our? So you speak for everyone on the Island or Ireland that's involved in Rugby. It may have escaped your attention but while the name for the country that forms the 26 counties is Ireland, the rugby team is named after the Island of Ireland and therefore there is no National Anthem. If you don't like it you don't have to support the team or sport.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1959 - 15/07/2023 20:37:02    2494626

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Replying To zinny:  "Our? So you speak for everyone on the Island or Ireland that's involved in Rugby. It may have escaped your attention but while the name for the country that forms the 26 counties is Ireland, the rugby team is named after the Island of Ireland and therefore there is no National Anthem. If you don't like it you don't have to support the team or sport."
Wrong. The name for the 26 counties is "The Republic of Ireland".I

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 390 - 15/07/2023 21:41:34    2494653

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "Wrong. The name for the 26 counties is "The Republic of Ireland".I"
This one's easily settled. Bunreacht na Éireann:
ARTICLE 4

The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3148 - 15/07/2023 21:56:09    2494654

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Replying To zinny:  "Our? So you speak for everyone on the Island or Ireland that's involved in Rugby. It may have escaped your attention but while the name for the country that forms the 26 counties is Ireland, the rugby team is named after the Island of Ireland and therefore there is no National Anthem. If you don't like it you don't have to support the team or sport."
Have you ever read our constitution?

You're making a show of wexford. The first Republic I might add.

Our island, our people, our anthem.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3565 - 15/07/2023 22:55:34    2494671

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Have you ever read our constitution?

You're making a show of wexford. The first Republic I might add.

Our island, our people, our anthem."
A lot of the rugby folks from the 6 Cos profess a different Nationality and anthem.
Anyway it's only fkn Rugby!!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 15/07/2023 23:37:28    2494681

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Have you ever read our constitution?

You're making a show of wexford. The first Republic I might add.

Our island, our people, our anthem."
Sorry but as much as people want to wish it, the Irish constitution does not claim authority over the 6 counties of NI. It is recognised as a separate jurisdiction, I will give you a break here and assume that you missed the impact of the removal of the old Articles 2 & 3. The anthem of Ireland cannot be said to be the anthem of the other jurisdiction as the Dail has no authority over the other jurisdiction. You shouldn't let sentiment get in the way of the facts.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1959 - 16/07/2023 00:30:45    2494685

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Have you ever read our constitution?

You're making a show of wexford. The first Republic I might add.

Our island, our people, our anthem."
Who, or what, is this 'our'? And when were you appointed spokesman for all the people of Ireland?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2753 - 16/07/2023 00:36:23    2494686

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We live in a land where a so-called republican nationalist party stand for the very opposite of what the hunger strikers died.


So, as aging man with a few years left, I am beyond even arguing about this anymore. the rest of it is bald man and comb stuff. There be no such thing as an identifiable Ireland in 50 years time.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 16/07/2023 00:53:35    2494688

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Who cares?
It doesn't impact how the result will go so why does it bother you."
I only saw the final of this tournament. I found it remarkable how superior the French were to Ireland. You down often see a class gulf as wide as that in a final.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4126 - 16/07/2023 08:29:30    2494694

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I only saw the final of this tournament. I found it remarkable how superior the French were to Ireland. You down often see a class gulf as wide as that in a final."
Every game France played in the tournament was like the final. Ireland were fortunate to avoid them to that stage. It was still an achievement getting to a WC final but that French team could produce players for their senior squad now, serious team.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 16/07/2023 09:37:49    2494702

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Who cares about national anthem. It has no impact on the match/result"
The way that France ran through Ireland like s….er through a duck suggests the players didn't care to much about the match/result either… Maybe they would perform better after standing to the National anthem instead of that ' Irelands Call ' nonsense…. Embarrassing stuff to listen to

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3813 - 16/07/2023 09:43:54    2494703

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "We live in a land where a so-called republican nationalist party stand for the very opposite of what the hunger strikers died.


So, as aging man with a few years left, I am beyond even arguing about this anymore. the rest of it is bald man and comb stuff. There be no such thing as an identifiable Ireland in 50 years time."
If only we could turn the clock back to the 1950s.....

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 16/07/2023 10:30:16    2494718

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Who, or what, is this 'our'? And when were you appointed spokesman for all the people of Ireland?"
I wouldn't expect a Kilkenny man to get it.

It's not my opinion, it's the will of majority, and the simple difference between right and wrong.

If you broke into my home and stole a piece of furniture, it wouldn't matter how long you had it, what colour you painted it, what song you sang to it, or what it was infested with. It would remain my property

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3565 - 16/07/2023 10:51:38    2494724

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Who cares?
It doesn't impact how the result will go so why does it bother you."
If that's your argument, then it's a pretty weak one. Not surprised really given your usual comments.
Why don't you just stop digging a hole for yourself.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 16/07/2023 10:51:42    2494725

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Replying To zinny:  "Sorry but as much as people want to wish it, the Irish constitution does not claim authority over the 6 counties of NI. It is recognised as a separate jurisdiction, I will give you a break here and assume that you missed the impact of the removal of the old Articles 2 & 3. The anthem of Ireland cannot be said to be the anthem of the other jurisdiction as the Dail has no authority over the other jurisdiction. You shouldn't let sentiment get in the way of the facts."
If that's what you feel you've no business in the gaa

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3565 - 16/07/2023 10:52:31    2494726

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Replying To sam1884:  "Every game France played in the tournament was like the final. Ireland were fortunate to avoid them to that stage. It was still an achievement getting to a WC final but that French team could produce players for their senior squad now, serious team."
The words that reverberated around in my head comparing that French back division to the Irish opposite numbers on the night, was that old Jimmy Magee line.....different class, DIFFERENT CLASS.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4126 - 16/07/2023 11:51:56    2494739

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I wouldn't expect a Kilkenny man to get it.

It's not my opinion, it's the will of majority, and the simple difference between right and wrong.

If you broke into my home and stole a piece of furniture, it wouldn't matter how long you had it, what colour you painted it, what song you sang to it, or what it was infested with. It would remain my property"
What's the will of the majority?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2753 - 16/07/2023 12:59:50    2494752

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Replying To festinog:  "This one's easily settled. Bunreacht na Éireann:
ARTICLE 4

The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland."
Wrong again. The Republic Of Ireland Act 1948 declared the the 26 counties were to be known as the Republic of Ireland.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 390 - 16/07/2023 13:48:39    2494770

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Replying To thelongridge:  "If that's your argument, then it's a pretty weak one. Not surprised really given your usual comments.
Why don't you just stop digging a hole for yourself."
but why does it bother you that much. its irrelevant to the play or how a match will go.
not digging A hole for myself at all actually.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 16/07/2023 14:08:26    2494777

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "Wrong again. The Republic Of Ireland Act 1948 declared the the 26 counties were to be known as the Republic of Ireland."
Can you quite the Section please?
I've never seen "Republic of Ireland" on any State documentation.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 16/07/2023 15:01:33    2494791

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