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Replying To seanie08: "Tough ask going to castlebar but monaghan are a side nearing end of the road so probably need a game like this to ignite a few fires. Novelty also of first championship meeting." How many 30 year olds started against Derry, a good number seem to be around for a long time now with plenty of mileage on the clock.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3753 - 23/05/2022 09:59:15
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Replying To seanie08: "Tough ask going to castlebar but monaghan are a side nearing end of the road so probably need a game like this to ignite a few fires. Novelty also of first championship meeting." Is Castlebar back up and running? Could be Longford or Carrick
weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 23/05/2022 10:03:13
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Replying To weatherfieldgael: "Is Castlebar back up and running? Could be Longford or Carrick" Yeah sure they played Galway there already in Connacht championship
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2382 - 23/05/2022 10:14:57
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Replying To giveitlong: ""Draw" Monday morning RTE.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2022/0520/1300236-all-ireland-sfc-qualifier-draw-to-be-made-live-on-rte/
On Current form I would rate the teams in this order:
Mayo
Tyrone
Monaghan
Armagh
Cork
Clare
Louth
Meath" I'd agree, with that in mind my predictions are:
Mayo
Clare
Cork
Tyrone
The possibility of Tyrone and Mayo is Qualifier Round 2 awaits the provincial runners-up. The winners of Clare v Meath and Cork v Louth will probably be luckier than provincial runners-up!
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 23/05/2022 10:28:51
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Replying To weatherfieldgael: "Is Castlebar back up and running? Could be Longford or Carrick" Mayo v Galway was already played in MacHale Park
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 23/05/2022 10:37:16
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Replying To weatherfieldgael: "Is Castlebar back up and running? Could be Longford or Carrick" Yes, MacHale Park hosted the Mayo-Galway game (and indeed the hurlers' Christy Ring tie against Derry) and was in great condition for it. Mayo played their NFL "home" ties in neutral venues in order to allow the pitch to recover for the championship season.
Great boost for the town of Castlebar to get another big championship tie this season too.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/05/2022 10:53:33
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Some good games in store.
Mayo have a peculiar record in Castlebar, in that it's not great. Would Mayo supporters have any insight into why that is? Mayo will still feel that they can prevail but I'd always, always be wary of Monaghan. They have an uncanny ability to catch fire just when you've written them off. Gun to head I'd give the nod to Mayo. There has been little noise coming out of their camp since the Galway game, and the likes of Cillian O'Connor will surely be a lot sharper.
Tyrone and Armagh is another spicy one. Little love lost between them and both teams will have big points to prove after their very underwhelming Ulster performances. Even with home advantage I can't see Armagh beating Tyrone. Tyrone almost prefer being written off than operating with the favourites tag. Would expect them to prevail here by about 5 or 6 points. It will be very interesting to see if some of the u20s move into the panel. I would be of the opinion that young Canavan, McGleenan and co added to training might be exactly the rocket up the ass the likes of McShane needs.
Meath and Clare will be very tight too. Two teams well used to each other from league football so there won't be too many surprises. Meath surely could not be as bad as they were against Dublin - would fancy them to jsut edge this by a couple of points.
Cork and Louth is a tricky one to call. Cork got great plaudits for their efforts against Kerry but I'm still not convinced. Louth have made great strides recently under Mickey Harte and you can be sure he'll have them well set up tactically. I think if there is to be a shock of sorts this might be the one. Louth to win it by a point for me.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9132 - 23/05/2022 10:55:27
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Replying To seanie08: "Tough ask going to castlebar but monaghan are a side nearing end of the road so probably need a game like this to ignite a few fires. Novelty also of first championship meeting." Yes indeed, a novel championship pairing for both of us. Would make Monaghan narrow favourites for this one, given our poor record in MacHale Park in recent times (including against the Farney), our frankly ridiculous injury list and the fact that we were a bit fortunate to beat ye up in Clones a few months back.
At least the four division one teams drawing each other puts paid to the conspiracy theories already seen on this thread. Armagh v. Tyrone is another serious tie.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/05/2022 11:06:44
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Some good games in store.
Mayo have a peculiar record in Castlebar, in that it's not great. Would Mayo supporters have any insight into why that is? Mayo will still feel that they can prevail but I'd always, always be wary of Monaghan. They have an uncanny ability to catch fire just when you've written them off. Gun to head I'd give the nod to Mayo. There has been little noise coming out of their camp since the Galway game, and the likes of Cillian O'Connor will surely be a lot sharper.
Tyrone and Armagh is another spicy one. Little love lost between them and both teams will have big points to prove after their very underwhelming Ulster performances. Even with home advantage I can't see Armagh beating Tyrone. Tyrone almost prefer being written off than operating with the favourites tag. Would expect them to prevail here by about 5 or 6 points. It will be very interesting to see if some of the u20s move into the panel. I would be of the opinion that young Canavan, McGleenan and co added to training might be exactly the rocket up the ass the likes of McShane needs.
Meath and Clare will be very tight too. Two teams well used to each other from league football so there won't be too many surprises. Meath surely could not be as bad as they were against Dublin - would fancy them to jsut edge this by a couple of points.
Cork and Louth is a tricky one to call. Cork got great plaudits for their efforts against Kerry but I'm still not convinced. Louth have made great strides recently under Mickey Harte and you can be sure he'll have them well set up tactically. I think if there is to be a shock of sorts this might be the one. Louth to win it by a point for me." Tyrone not playing in Omagh should help, as for Mc Shane, it's a rocket up the **** when he's taking tap over frees as well.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 23/05/2022 11:52:52
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Replying To Gleebo: "Yes indeed, a novel championship pairing for both of us. Would make Monaghan narrow favourites for this one, given our poor record in MacHale Park in recent times (including against the Farney), our frankly ridiculous injury list and the fact that we were a bit fortunate to beat ye up in Clones a few months back.
At least the four division one teams drawing each other puts paid to the conspiracy theories already seen on this thread. Armagh v. Tyrone is another serious tie." Surely you would make us favourites !!!
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 23/05/2022 12:36:06
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Some good games in store.
Mayo have a peculiar record in Castlebar, in that it's not great. Would Mayo supporters have any insight into why that is? Mayo will still feel that they can prevail but I'd always, always be wary of Monaghan. They have an uncanny ability to catch fire just when you've written them off. Gun to head I'd give the nod to Mayo. There has been little noise coming out of their camp since the Galway game, and the likes of Cillian O'Connor will surely be a lot sharper.
Tyrone and Armagh is another spicy one. Little love lost between them and both teams will have big points to prove after their very underwhelming Ulster performances. Even with home advantage I can't see Armagh beating Tyrone. Tyrone almost prefer being written off than operating with the favourites tag. Would expect them to prevail here by about 5 or 6 points. It will be very interesting to see if some of the u20s move into the panel. I would be of the opinion that young Canavan, McGleenan and co added to training might be exactly the rocket up the ass the likes of McShane needs.
Meath and Clare will be very tight too. Two teams well used to each other from league football so there won't be too many surprises. Meath surely could not be as bad as they were against Dublin - would fancy them to jsut edge this by a couple of points.
Cork and Louth is a tricky one to call. Cork got great plaudits for their efforts against Kerry but I'm still not convinced. Louth have made great strides recently under Mickey Harte and you can be sure he'll have them well set up tactically. I think if there is to be a shock of sorts this might be the one. Louth to win it by a point for me." It's a weird one, alright. Mayo actually went unbeaten in their "home" fixtures (all played outside the county) during the 2022 NFL, when MacHale Park was being relaid. This was a much better outcome than for several of the previous years in which we had genuine home matches.
My personal feeling is that Horanball relies a lot on midfielders, half backs etc. getting up the field to provide scores, which crowds out our half-forward line in particular. MacHale Park is quite a small pitch even by the standards of Co. Mayo (e.g. Crossmolina's pitch was something like 12/13 metres longer than it up until the recent refurbishment), so there's less room for this to be effective, as opposed to some of the bigger grounds round the country.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/05/2022 12:56:58
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Replying To legendzxix: "I'd agree, with that in mind my predictions are:
Mayo
Clare
Cork
Tyrone
The possibility of Tyrone and Mayo is Qualifier Round 2 awaits the provincial runners-up. The winners of Clare v Meath and Cork v Louth will probably be luckier than provincial runners-up!" Hmmm. Meath have played clare plenty of times lately and while more recently they have been close affairs Meath have yet to be beat by clare. Including just a few weeks back in Ennis. I'd give the nod to Meath marginally. The players had a disaster against what will likely be the all ire champions Dublin. But I expect a big kick in them yet.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/05/2022 13:17:53
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I don't see anything in Croke Park 5th June.
Perhaps Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Monaghan will be moved to a double header in Croke Park?
tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 23/05/2022 13:29:35
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Replying To tyroneed: "I don't see anything in Croke Park 5th June.
Perhaps Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Monaghan will be moved to a double header in Croke Park?" I'd hope not, they've already stated that teams drawn out first would have home advantage. And precedents have been set now whereby the GAA is probably reluctant to go back on those commitments without very good reason.
Though it might be nice to be on the right side of one of those protests for once...
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/05/2022 14:03:54
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Replying To tyroneed: "I don't see anything in Croke Park 5th June.
Perhaps Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Monaghan will be moved to a double header in Croke Park?" They'd need Armagh and Mayo to agree and that is very unlikely. Counties spend money on developing stadia and ask local business for sponsorship and assistance throughout the year. The two games in Castlebar and Armagh will bring a lot of revenue into those areas so the two county boards will righly insist on their home game, their local sponsors would expect them to.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 23/05/2022 14:32:09
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Replying To tyroneed: "I don't see anything in Croke Park 5th June.
Perhaps Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Monaghan will be moved to a double header in Croke Park?" Monaghan would prefer castlebar
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 23/05/2022 15:06:49
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Replying To tyroneed: "I don't see anything in Croke Park 5th June.
Perhaps Armagh Tyrone and Mayo Monaghan will be moved to a double header in Croke Park?" Not a hope in hell Armagh or Mayo agree to that, and why would they? It was stipulated that the first team out gets home advantage, and home advantage could be huge in game like these - so why on earth would they give that up to play in front of a half empty Croke Park?
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Replying To weatherfieldgael: "Is Castlebar back up and running? Could be Longford or Carrick" Longford wouldn't have anything close to the required/desired capacity to be in contention for that game. I doubt Carrick would either come to think of it.
LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 471 - 23/05/2022 15:17:04
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Some good games in store.
Mayo have a peculiar record in Castlebar, in that it's not great. Would Mayo supporters have any insight into why that is? Mayo will still feel that they can prevail but I'd always, always be wary of Monaghan. They have an uncanny ability to catch fire just when you've written them off. Gun to head I'd give the nod to Mayo. There has been little noise coming out of their camp since the Galway game, and the likes of Cillian O'Connor will surely be a lot sharper.
Tyrone and Armagh is another spicy one. Little love lost between them and both teams will have big points to prove after their very underwhelming Ulster performances. Even with home advantage I can't see Armagh beating Tyrone. Tyrone almost prefer being written off than operating with the favourites tag. Would expect them to prevail here by about 5 or 6 points. It will be very interesting to see if some of the u20s move into the panel. I would be of the opinion that young Canavan, McGleenan and co added to training might be exactly the rocket up the ass the likes of McShane needs.
Meath and Clare will be very tight too. Two teams well used to each other from league football so there won't be too many surprises. Meath surely could not be as bad as they were against Dublin - would fancy them to jsut edge this by a couple of points.
Cork and Louth is a tricky one to call. Cork got great plaudits for their efforts against Kerry but I'm still not convinced. Louth have made great strides recently under Mickey Harte and you can be sure he'll have them well set up tactically. I think if there is to be a shock of sorts this might be the one. Louth to win it by a point for me." Louth seem to have garnered a bit of a hype train under Mickey Harte and I'm yet to be convinced. Yes he's certainly improved them with back to back promotions, but Louth have always been a Division 2/top half of Division 3 team. They go up and down. After a good league campaign, I was looking forward to seeing how they got on against Kildare as it was a great barometer to see where they are at - and they were blown out the door. Westmeath who Louth beat by 2 points in the League put up a better showing against Kildare.
I find it very hard to see how they get a result down in Cork who will be optimistic after showing a bit of fight against Kerry. Yeah Cork are no great shakes at all, watch them play Meath in Navan during the league and they were shocking. But think they'll be good enough to get over Louth.
Agree with you on most of the other games.
hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 198 - 23/05/2022 15:50:55
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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Longford wouldn't have anything close to the required/desired capacity to be in contention for that game. I doubt Carrick would either come to think of it." No worries . The game will be in Castlebar, and rightly so
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 23/05/2022 15:55:50
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