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Ok I'll answer your questions. I thought you were being rhetorical. 1st up then you were invited by the Leinster Council to compete in the Championship starting in 2009. This wasn't a unanimous decision on Leinsters part. Offaly, Wexford and Dublin all opposed it. There were 2 reasons for this invite. Firstly for many years Galway hurling folk complained their lack of competitive action earlier in the year was why they had such a poor record in AISFs and AIFs. Your record in these since joining Leinster would suggest that there was alot more to it than that. And from Leinsters point of view, as seems to be the priority with all higher up people in our organisation nationally, Galway being in the Leinster championship would make it more competitive, putting more bums on seats and thereby increasing revenue. Personally I was very happy with you joining the Leinster Championship, from every point of view, and thought at the time your underage teams should have been admitted and that you should have had home games. What's annoying with your attitude now is that, after only being in it a wet day, you proposed in your original post we should change the name of our championship, the name it had when it was started in the 19th century. And then to make it worse you seem now to think it should be scrapped altogether. Furthermore you seem to be annoyed by your status as a guest in it. No young lads in Galway aspire to win a Leinster Championship. Why would they? They aren't from Leinster. That's why you will always be guests in it. As I said this morning if you really are that unhappy at being in our championship, despite now having home games etc etc, then why don't you just leave? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16163 - 09/07/2022 11:27:11 2430622 Link 0 |
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I watched the match back a few times I think the ref got it about right we got a few handy ones as did galway but no doubt Hayes did over carry. also hayes got penalised for a late challenge on the sideline which was no different to a challenge on casey on same line but we only got a sideline from it.Swings and roundabouts. someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 09/07/2022 11:27:56 2430623 Link 0 |
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I know where I'm from Viking, it's the place where hurling was strongest according to Michael Cusack when he travelled the country in 1883. They didn't need any association or any financial backing to continue playing the game their forebears loved and played.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 09/07/2022 11:43:33 2430625 Link 0 |
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Ahah now you are getting it Baire. Club (parish), County , Province. The way its always been except at the very start when the 1st ever championship match was between Meelick from Galway and Castlebridge from Wexford. This was changed soon after to a provincial set up, based loosely on geography, to reduce travelling costs at a time when our country was very poor. That's been my point entirely this morning!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16163 - 09/07/2022 11:45:09 2430626 Link 0 |
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Same as down here. Like I said numerous times this morning if you aren't happy with being in our Leinster Championship you can always leave again. We will miss the days out in Galway every other year but I'm sure we will get over it in time.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16163 - 09/07/2022 11:49:35 2430628 Link 0 |
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"Galway are a team from Connacht that now plays in what is called the Leinster championship. The Galway hurlers are proud Connacht men as are Antrim proud Ulster men. To be fair to Galway and Antrim the name should be changed but I wouldn't hold my breath!" This is what you posted earlier Baire. Dripping with "arrogance and entitlement"! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16163 - 09/07/2022 11:53:30 2430629 Link 0 |
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I have nothing against Leinster, I live in Leinster and my children are from Leinster. I have great respect for all hurling counties from all the provinces. I thought our county board were weak in agreeing to take part in a competition whereby they were essentially second class citizens. Initially all games were played in Leinster, under age not allowed play, all the officials from the province of Leinster. Do you not see the unfairness there? Can you not see my point of view?
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 09/07/2022 12:03:35 2430630 Link 0 |
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Stating facts Viking. Geography?
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 09/07/2022 12:06:00 2430632 Link 0 |
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Now the attention switches to our wonderful Footballers in their quest to get back to the All Ireland Final.....hopefully you hurling folk will cheer on the mighty Tribesmen this evening!! katser (Galway) - Posts: 2611 - 09/07/2022 12:53:56 2430646 Link 1 |
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Let it go petal.. You would have won if you were better than us in real life rather than in your head, but You weren't. Get over it. Its been a tough few years for you but Galway will beat Limerick in a match that matters soon I'm sure. You can gloat then. Best of luck to your footballers by the way. Would be delighted to see the winners this evening win Sam outright. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1111 - 09/07/2022 13:53:07 2430656 Link 0 |
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All I mean to say is that you were welcomed into Munster, with the generosity of our huge Southern Hearts, as equal competitors, 'AT ALL LEVELS' back in 59. Ye left us of your own volition ten years later, in a move, which was a pity for all concerned. I see you make reference to that 'auld Hoor' Cromwell. Always remember, he was not man enough to come to Limerick, for all the mayhem he caused elsewhere. I would not mind but our ancestors had a lovely warm reception awaiting him, but he high tailed it back to England as fast as his legs would carry him.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4501 - 09/07/2022 14:07:42 2430657 Link 0 |
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Yes I agree baire - all Galway teams should be allowed to play in Leinster and Galway should be allowed home games in Galway for all teams and then there would be some sort of fairness after all these years.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/07/2022 14:23:08 2430661 Link 1 |
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"Could" have won is more accurate let's be honest.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2376 - 09/07/2022 14:40:14 2430663 Link 0 |
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I agree that the initial deal was totally unfair. I've posted my agreement on this subject numerous times. At the same time can you not see its equally unfair for someone who isn't even from Leinster to tell my kids who were born and raised here in Wexford that the Leinster Championship shouldn't be called the Leinster Championship even though that's what it was always called. Generations of kids grew up here aspiring to win it preferably beating Kilkenny along the way. Its not our fault hurling wasn't preserved or didn't develop in the other Connacht counties. Yes your presence in it has certainly improved it but at the end of the day you being a proud Connacht man doesn't give you the right to tell all the proud Leinster men whose Championship you have only lately joined what their Championship should be called. Or worse again imply it should be scrapped altogether. It's up to the clubs in Leinster to elect the County Boards in Leinster. Then it's up to these to elect Leinster officials. And it's up to all of us whether we run a Championship or not and what we call it. Noone from down here ever interfered with the way anything was run in Connacht. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16163 - 09/07/2022 14:47:57 2430665 Link 0 |
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To be accurate OTM Cromwell went to Scotland to put down a rebellion there when they proclaimed Charles 2 the king and he left his son-in-law Henry Ireton in charge who took Limerick in October 1651 and Galway was the last city to fall.
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/07/2022 14:49:53 2430666 Link 2 |
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Correct ! Hugh Dubh O' Neill surrendered Limerick to Ireton who subsequently died of plague !
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 09/07/2022 14:57:42 2430669 Link 0 |
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Ha! Some how I'm not surprised with that lol Plague and limrik.....seems normal! katser (Galway) - Posts: 2611 - 09/07/2022 15:31:46 2430678 Link 2 |
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That was his excuse for running away. The same applied with William of Orange. You know the British and Propaganda and who ever proved that 'twas the Plague killed Ireton anyway.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4501 - 09/07/2022 16:57:58 2430689 Link 0 |
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Woulda, shoulda, coulda you were beaten by us again....up Derry.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 901 - 09/07/2022 17:29:56 2430697 Link 3 |
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Galway footballers back in all Ireland final. Congratulations! Comer was outstanding.Need to examine Hawkeye… how many mistakes have been made especially in hurling!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 09/07/2022 18:59:37 2430762 Link 1 |