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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Oisin McConville said he had no interest in the Monaghan job , on the Examiner Gaa pod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phea2Pk14hs"
Super news. Thanks for sharing.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 942 - 09/07/2022 16:20:13    2430681

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Hopefully Andy will be involved,if not as manager then as assistant. Did an unbelievable job with the Under 20s. But for the tragic circumstances, I have no doubt he would have won an All Ireland with those lads despite being "robbed" of two of the stars of that group. A team that might I add underachieved under our departing Senior manager. Word is that Malachy is in the frame, which has to be good news. Malachy with Andy alongside him with some of our recently retired players in the backroom and a five year contract to build with the young lads would be a great way to go."
"A team that underachieved under our departing senior manager" goes to show what you know about monaghan gaa. The team that Andy had for u20s was the team banty took to all ireland minor semi final after wining ulster championship and losing ulster league final.

I believe Andy won't be named as manager but I hope is named as a coach/trainer. Andy as trainer and a good player manager whether inside or outside the county would be a good mix. Colin Malone also a very good coach and a good shout I reckon.

MonaghanBoi (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 10/07/2022 15:18:40    2431055

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Replying To MonaghanBoi:  ""A team that underachieved under our departing senior manager" goes to show what you know about monaghan gaa. The team that Andy had for u20s was the team banty took to all ireland minor semi final after wining ulster championship and losing ulster league final.

I believe Andy won't be named as manager but I hope is named as a coach/trainer. Andy as trainer and a good player manager whether inside or outside the county would be a good mix. Colin Malone also a very good coach and a good shout I reckon."
To use your own words,your nonsensical post shows in your own words "what you you know about Monaghan GAA". Banty came up way short with the most talented Monaghan minor time I have ever seen. Andy was on his way to winning an All Ireland,with that same team but for the unspeakable tragedy that occurred on that tragic nite after the Donegal game. And that was minus two of the teams top players poached by the senior manager. Who can forget their heroic effort in Armagh against Down without their leader and inspirational captain and also without Mulligan and Gallagher. Andy Callan must have some role in our next management set up.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 265 - 11/07/2022 10:11:00    2431269

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So when we announcing Jim Gavin then ?

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1692 - 11/07/2022 21:56:55    2431553

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I'm hearing we could be going back too Banty with our tail between our legs.

Co.Board have approached several "big names" with none interested.

Seemingly, there are serious "personality" issues within the current squad. Which appears to be the main issue with proposed managers not wanting the role.

In-house fighting, players feeling they are more important than the jersey, egos bigger than they can back up etc etc….

Next man in, or Bantys return, will have a epic task.
Worrying times ahead.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 149 - 12/07/2022 16:24:22    2431723

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Major problems then if the players are the issue. Not sure what the egos are based on they have achieved nothing of substance in year.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1692 - 12/07/2022 19:17:25    2431749

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "To use your own words,your nonsensical post shows in your own words "what you you know about Monaghan GAA". Banty came up way short with the most talented Monaghan minor time I have ever seen. Andy was on his way to winning an All Ireland,with that same team but for the unspeakable tragedy that occurred on that tragic nite after the Donegal game. And that was minus two of the teams top players poached by the senior manager. Who can forget their heroic effort in Armagh against Down without their leader and inspirational captain and also without Mulligan and Gallagher. Andy Callan must have some role in our next management set up."
Which minor team are you referring to?.

MonaghanBoi (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 12/07/2022 20:37:28    2431765

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Replying To Blueblood4life:  "I'm hearing we could be going back too Banty with our tail between our legs.

Co.Board have approached several "big names" with none interested.

Seemingly, there are serious "personality" issues within the current squad. Which appears to be the main issue with proposed managers not wanting the role.

In-house fighting, players feeling they are more important than the jersey, egos bigger than they can back up etc etc….

Next man in, or Bantys return, will have a epic task.
Worrying times ahead."
if that's true then it is very worrying. as i mentioned before, Monaghan have won nothing in 7 years.

Roscommon, Tipperary and Cavan have all been more successful in recent years compared to Monaghan.

I really wanted a change from the latter years of MOR era and Banty came in and, in my opinion, made all the right changes for a more modern adventurous type of game...That didn't really work out either.

What's the common denominator? I don't really like pointing the finger of blame to players and I'm hoping what Blueblood is stating is just hear-say but as a group - Monaghan has lost it's identity as a hardy team who takes no prisoners.

I remember reading an article a few years ago (I think by Tomás O'Sé) and he described Monaghan as a "Tuesday team," in the sense that it took him until Tuesday to recover after a Monaghan game....it was a back handed compliment that Monaghan could be proud of...i couldn't imagine any of the mayo or derry men saying that about us this year.

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 142 - 13/07/2022 08:46:28    2431776

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "if that's true then it is very worrying. as i mentioned before, Monaghan have won nothing in 7 years.

Roscommon, Tipperary and Cavan have all been more successful in recent years compared to Monaghan.

I really wanted a change from the latter years of MOR era and Banty came in and, in my opinion, made all the right changes for a more modern adventurous type of game...That didn't really work out either.

What's the common denominator? I don't really like pointing the finger of blame to players and I'm hoping what Blueblood is stating is just hear-say but as a group - Monaghan has lost it's identity as a hardy team who takes no prisoners.

I remember reading an article a few years ago (I think by Tomás O'Sé) and he described Monaghan as a "Tuesday team," in the sense that it took him until Tuesday to recover after a Monaghan game....it was a back handed compliment that Monaghan could be proud of...i couldn't imagine any of the mayo or derry men saying that about us this year."
Darragh Ó Sé wrote that article.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5822 - 13/07/2022 10:14:05    2431797

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Replying To MonaghanBoi:  "Which minor team are you referring to?."
Go back to sleep.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 265 - 13/07/2022 11:42:43    2431820

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Go back to sleep."
He was minor manager in 2018, which was the year of Aaron mulligan, Sean Jones, Ogie Duffy, Ronan Grimes etc etc. That was the year they got to an All Ireland minor semi under banty. The other year he was involved was with U21 team which consited of Andrew Woods, Karl McMenamin, Robbie Mc Alistar. So before you start to talk rubbish get your facts right please.

I agree with you on Andy Callan being involved. However he is not a players man, which is why I reckon he will only be a coach/trainer.

MonaghanBoi (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 13/07/2022 16:49:10    2431919

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I understand nominations close today. Expecting internal appointment here as no news on external candidates.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1692 - 14/07/2022 11:24:54    2432011

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I do believe whoever gets the job must revamp the panel and bring change. This might include leaving out a few big names. James horan did a similar job in mayo in 2010 and Liam cahill in waterford hurling in 2020. Monaghan football needs a new direction for the next 10 years, crucial appointment in my opinion. Diasapointing to hear of players being the issue it has to be said.

222 (UK) - Posts: 603 - 14/07/2022 12:04:12    2432026

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Replying To MonaghanBoi:  "He was minor manager in 2018, which was the year of Aaron mulligan, Sean Jones, Ogie Duffy, Ronan Grimes etc etc. That was the year they got to an All Ireland minor semi under banty. The other year he was involved was with U21 team which consited of Andrew Woods, Karl McMenamin, Robbie Mc Alistar. So before you start to talk rubbish get your facts right please.

I agree with you on Andy Callan being involved. However he is not a players man, which is why I reckon he will only be a coach/trainer."
Thanks you have awoken and proven my point. Banty failed miserably with a Minor team that should have won an All Ireland. The most talented team this county ever had. A team that Andy was on his way to winning an All Ireland with at under 20 level until that horrific night a year ago. Let me add with a group minus Mulligan and Gallagher poached and since dispensed with by Banty. And please, you don't really want me to elaborate on the disaster that was the Under 20 team that Banty brought to Cavan and stood with his hands in his pockets while they got obliterated. So before you start to talk rubbish get your facts in order. Andy Callan is well ready to take our Seniors and is very much a players' man as he proved in those dark days last July.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 265 - 14/07/2022 12:16:02    2432031

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Any word on who was put forward yesterday for the job?

Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 770 - 15/07/2022 10:27:29    2432155

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Replying To Farney:  "Any word on who was put forward yesterday for the job?"
Think they are still going through the post looking..

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 149 - 15/07/2022 13:41:57    2432217

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Replying To Farney:  "Any word on who was put forward yesterday for the job?"
You won't get a direct answer to that around here. Unless people can obfuscate their post and hint that they are in the know, but fail to share anything of use, there will be nothing forthcoming.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 135 - 15/07/2022 14:29:10    2432236

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Replying To Farney:  "Any word on who was put forward yesterday for the job?"
Strong word of Andy Callan + Oisin Mc conville as joint managers and eoin Lennon as selector.

MonaghanBoi (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 15/07/2022 17:03:38    2432265

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Replying To MonaghanBoi:  "Strong word of Andy Callan + Oisin Mc conville as joint managers and eoin Lennon as selector."
Nope. Neither Oisin or Eoin want to be involved.

I've it on very good merit that Counihan is looking the like the preferred choice at the minute, seemingly a very strong blend of both Monaghan men and outside expertise on his backroom team.

Would be a great decision to put faith in a young coach with good intercounty experience. He will certainly know where to look to inject some youth into current squad.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 149 - 16/07/2022 11:42:13    2432314

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i see Seamus the USA man is setting up faults threads about Banty on the main page, has this man no shame. if Banty lost the coin toss in a game, this was a national disaster for our man in the USA , not winning Ulster's and ALL Irelands was complete and utter failure, yet he's willing to give the new team 5 years to build a team that only 3 weeks ago, he said should have been winning AL finals.

patmouse (Monaghan) - Posts: 93 - 20/07/2022 10:38:41    2433060

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